What’s wrong with this job?

[initforme]

Paint and materials NOT included. NOT is pronounced Nahhhhhhht. For you.

 

[Concerned American]

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Ours is 80 hours on the January 1st after you have completed your 6 month probation. 120 hours at 5 years of service. 9 additional houes at years 11, 12, 13,14 & 15 (160 hours total at 15 years). 40 additional hours at 20 years. We can also purchase up to 40 hours of vacation as a benefit each year.

It sounds like you work for a pretty good company. The company I retired from offered one wk after the first year, 2 wks during the second year, 3 wks after 6 yrs, 4 wks after 13 yrs and 5 wks after 20. The new hire wage and benefit package for the position in your company seems competitive. I can only guess that the points that I made in my earlier post might have something to do with their difficulties.

 

[initforme]

It sounds like you work for a pretty good company. The company I retired from offered one wk after the first year, 2 wks during the second year, 3 wks after 6 yrs, 4 wks after 13 yrs and 5 wks after 20. The new hire wage and benefit package for the position in your company seems competitive. I can only guess that the points that I made in my earlier post might have something to do with their difficulties.

One week of paid vacation? Cheapskates. No other way to look at it.

 

[Concerned American]

One week of paid vacation? Cheapskates. No other way to look at it.

An employer does not know the quality of the hire nor how long that person will stay with the company. Hiring and training a new employee is not a minor cost. Employers don't hire and offer benefit packages so that they can do it again a year later. It is incumbent on the new employee to show what they have and exhibit some longevity before an employer will give these perks and I don't blame them. You know there is that thing known as the golden rule---them that have the gold, make the rules. If you want the job, you will meet the requirements--if not, meh, there are others willing to take your place. Are you employed?

 

[initforme]

An employer does not know the quality of the hire nor how long that person will stay with the company. Hiring and training a new employee is not a minor cost. Employers don't hire and offer benefit packages so that they can do it again a year later. It is incumbent on the new employee to show what they have and exhibit some longevity before an employer will give these perks and I don't blame them. You know there is that thing known as the golden rule---them that have the gold, make the rules. If you want the job, you will meet the requirements--if not, meh, there are others willing to take your place. Are you employed?

Giving ones all for the company is never looked upon favorably. A well known fact.

 

[Concerned American]

Giving ones all for the company is never looked upon favorably. A well known fact.

That is a phenomena that is fairly recent (the last twenty years or so). About the time some moron came up with the idea that you should promote or quit every two years--that's a crock of shit and has led to a lot of the quality problems we experience now. Many jobs take more than two years to learn and once they are learned, that person needs to stay in it. I watched some of that two or out come down and saw a lot of really poor decisions made. The people who made them moved up or out in two years just before the results of their poor decisions came to light. Then another 2 or out would come along with no intention to follow the "tried and true" It became a snowball effect. That type of corporate thinking leads to failure. I was fortunate and worked for a privately held company that is the largest in their field in the world and they value loyalty. I worked for them 33 years and they still treat me very well and I am in my ninth year of retirement.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

One man. One. Can you read ? Probably not.

Dufus...I just don't believe you. You have a rep for bloviation...as seen on display here.

 

[initforme]

Dufus...I just don't believe you. You have a rep for bloviation...as seen on display here.

Well it's the truth. I have no interest in having to prove it to a person like you.

 

[odanny]

Ours is 80 hours on the January 1st after you have completed your 6 month probation. 120 hours at 5 years of service. 9 additional houes at years 11, 12, 13,14 & 15 (160 hours total at 15 years). 40 additional hours at 20 years. We can also purchase up to 40 hours of vacation as a benefit each year.

Almost the same as mine (the end result, anyway). We start with three weeks, get four weeks at 10 years, 5 weeks at 20 years and 6 weeks at 30 years. Unions are great. Of course, all those new hires that came in after the year 2000 are capped at four weeks, that was a concession the union made, but we voted it in.

 

[Donald H]

AutoCad is a very detailed program. I have been trained in its use. I guess it is possible that with the past two years of scamdemic, maybe there is a shortage of trained people--also, entry level people haven't been working for the last two years so it is possible there is a shortage of people who can meet the experience requirement.

He's pretending that he doesn't know why nobody wants the job.. I know 'you' won't be fooled my friend.
I haven't told him that he needs to up the ante on wages and benefits because he's trying to prank us, and he already knows the obvious.
And too, he doesn't need or want to have the position filled.

He's trying to make a point. Can you guess what that point is too?

 

[Concerned American]

He's pretending that he doesn't know why nobody wants the job.. I know 'you' won't be fooled my friend.
I haven't told him that he needs to up the ante on wages and benefits because he's trying to prank us, and he already knows the obvious.
And too, he doesn't need or want to have the position filled.

He's trying to make a point. Can you guess what that point is too?

You're sticking your nose into issues that you have no standing in, AGAIN, duck. BTW, the Canadian dollar is only worth 76 cents (US) so that US new hire job is worth almost $50K CAD--which is right in line with the average wage of Canadian new hires. Run along duck. You are getting boring with your trolling.

 

[Concerned American]

Can we not make our imposed coexistence just a little bit more pleasant?

It is only unpleasant for you, duck. I look forward to your inept trolling. It starts my day with humor knowing that there is a commie Canadian CCP troll who is trying to influence American voters.

Make it Trudeau and I won't call your family a bunch of over zealous pissants anymore.

What family attachment do you have to TURDEAU?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Painters here make $52 per hour us bennies. No experience required. Always looking for people.

Methuselah, you live in the People's Republic of California! When are you going to realize that you have some of the highest costs of living in the entire country?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Not b.s. I just had one guy do a paint job for me. His base rate was $52.50 per hour. He's looking for 2 more helpers. Wisconsin.

When did you move, or were you always lying?

 

[initforme]

I've lived here my whole life. $52 is chicken scratch in this nation. Wake up.

 

[Concerned American]

I've lived here my whole life. $52 is chicken scratch in this nation. Wake up.

You must have lived under a rock then. Fifty-two bucks/hr. is $104K/year. The median HOUSEHOLD income in the US is less than $70K/yr. Median personal income is $44K ($22/hr). The definition of median is half make above and half make below that amount. Maybe you need to wake up.

Average, Median, Top 1% Individual Income Percentiles - DQYDJ

Average, median, top 1% and all individual income percentiles in 2024. See what percent you are vs. all United States households.

dqydj.com

 

[initforme]

Well that's what people here pay. They aren't cheapskates like you. Pay your workers. $52 isn't all that much.

 

[initforme]

You must have lived under a rock then. Fifty-two bucks/hr. is $104K/year. The median HOUSEHOLD income in the US is less than $70K/yr. Median personal income is $44K ($22/hr). The definition of median is half make above and half make below that amount. Maybe you need to wake up.

Average, Median, Top 1% Individual Income Percentiles - DQYDJ

Average, median, top 1% and all individual income percentiles in 2024. See what percent you are vs. all United States households.

dqydj.com

Tells me how sad the pay in this nation is.

 

[Concerned American]

Tells me how sad the pay in this nation is.

Quit being an uninformed, entitled whiner. The US is 5th in the world for the highest median personal income. The world does not owe you a living. Get off of your ass and earn it.

Median Income by Country 2025

worldpopulationreview.com

 

[Likkmee]

Almost the same as mine (the end result, anyway). We start with three weeks, get four weeks at 10 years, 5 weeks at 20 years and 6 weeks at 30 years. Unions are great. Of course, all those new hires that came in after the year 2000 are capped at four weeks, that was a concession the union made, but we voted it in.

Better get a socialist Onion. My guys get 12 days, plus nacional holidays and a months salary bonus once a year.
They usuall cash the 12 instead of using them. Dec costs me about 8 grand...every year. BY LAW