What's wrong with Christianity

[Meriweather]

Generalizations , Christians are the biggest threat to America. They live among US in large numbers. And more and more of them are extremists attempting to force their will on everyone.

Out of curiosity... What, exactly is "our will" ? Why does it frighten you?

 

[Arlette]

No other group has done more good than Christians.

What has your atheism wrought? 200 million murdered in the 20th century? Hey, that wasn't so bad. Maybe we should give it another try.

For who?

 

[Stann]

Out of curiosity... What, exactly is "our will" ? Why does it frighten you?

Continuing to dominate the landscape, political , social and psychological. Let's see your religion I schools , corrupting young minds from the very beginning, in the marriages and before ooms , this the abortion stance and threat to personal choice , if it isn't a choice it is being forced on the people. Anti -gay. Like they were waiting for trump to get in again. Already here in Nebraska they've refunded and disbanded the LGBTQ organization at the university. Just more and more crap people have to put up with. Let's see what other damage that will be done in the name of your god.

 

[ding]

For who?

Mankind

 

[ding]

Continuing to dominate the landscape, political , social and psychological. Let's see your religion I schools , corrupting young minds from the very beginning, in the marriages and before ooms , this the abortion stance and threat to personal choice , if it isn't a choice it is being forced on the people. Anti -gay. Like they were waiting for trump to get in again. Already here in Nebraska they've refunded and disbanded the LGBTQ organization at the university. Just more and more crap people have to put up with. Let's see what other damage that will be done in the name of your god.

That's how participation in democracy works. The people speak their mind. All of the people. If you don't like the outcomes you can always move to somewhere where the people are more akin to your mindset.

Or would you just like to dispense with democracy and install dictatorships that are more to your liking?

 

[ding]

Continuing to dominate the landscape, political , social and psychological. Let's see your religion I schools , corrupting young minds from the very beginning, in the marriages and before ooms , this the abortion stance and threat to personal choice , if it isn't a choice it is being forced on the people. Anti -gay. Like they were waiting for trump to get in again. Already here in Nebraska they've refunded and disbanded the LGBTQ organization at the university. Just more and more crap people have to put up with. Let's see what other damage that will be done in the name of your god.

By any objective measure Christianity and Christians have been a force for good.

1. Christianity promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness.
2. Christianity creates wonderful charities and organizations
3. Christians and Christian institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions.
4. Christianity has been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing.
5. Christianity gave us the concept of subsidiarity.
6. Christianity has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility.
7. Christianity teaches accountability and responsibility.
8. Christianity teaches that we have a choice in how we behave.
9. Christianity teaches that actions have consequences.
10. Christianity inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe.
11. Christianity helps us feel connected to one another and to nature.
12. Christianity helps us feel less alone in the world.
13. Christianity serves to ennoble the human spirit.
14. Christianity serves to bind the community together.
15. Christianity inspires love, peace and happiness.
16. Christianity serves to create traditions.
17. Christianity brings order to our lives.
18. Christianity brings comfort to the terminally ill.
19. Christianity can act as a source of hope for the oppressed.
20. Christianity teaches that we can transform ourselves.
21. Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon.
22. No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church.
23. Modern science was born in the Catholic Church.
24. Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market.
25. The Catholic Church invented the university.
26. Western law grew out of Church canon law.
27. The Catholic Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life.
28. The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.
29. Christianity gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians.
30. Christianity gave us America.
31. Christianity gave us incredible artwork.
32. Christianity gave us incredible music.
33. Christianity gave us incredible architecture.
34. Christianity has spread democracy.
35. Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression.
36. Christians rebuilt Europe after WWII.
37. Christians rebuilt Japan after WWII.
38. Christians put a man on the moon.
39. Christians ended the cold war.

 

[Arlette]

Mankind

No. Mankind has advanced in spite of Christianity.

 

[ding]

No. Mankind has advanced in spite of Christianity.

Because you think the militant atheist nations of the 20th century were so great?

 

[Arlette]

Because you think the militant atheist nations of the 20th century were so great?

All modern nations are secular. Just look at Afghanistan - that's medieval stuff.

 

[ding]

All modern nations are secular. Just look at Afghanistan - that's medieval stuff.

Do you think secular equals militant atheist?

 

[Arlette]

Do you think secular equals militant atheist?

By secular I mean that decisions have no religious basis.

 

[ding]

By secular I mean that decisions have no religious basis.

People can base their vote on anything they want to base their vote upon. That's their right. Do you want to take that right away?

 

[Arlette]

People can base their vote on anything they want to base their vote upon. That's their right. Do you want to take that right away?

Not doing this crap. You claimed in post #400 that Christians have done more good for mankind than any other group. You were wrong. As usual

 

[ding]

Not doing this crap. You claimed in post #400 that Christians have done more good for mankind than any other group. You were wrong. As usual

This is called backing it up.

Feel free to list all of the good things militant atheists have done for mankind.

And I bet you would like to keep Christians from voting too.

 

[Arlette]

This is called backing it up.

Feel free to list all of the good things militant atheists have done for mankind.

And I bet you would like to keep Christians from voting too.

I already told you I ain't doing this crap. You wanna claim that Christians in general are a special blessing for the world - they just ain't.

 

[Stann]

That's how participation in democracy works. The people speak their mind. All of the people. If you don't like the outcomes you can always move to somewhere where the people are more akin to your mindset.

Or would you just like to dispense with democracy and install dictatorships that are more to your liking?

You don't know how fascist you are.

 

[ding]

I already told you I ain't doing this crap. You wanna claim that Christians in general are a special blessing for the world - they just ain't.

Do you know what evidence is? Do you know the relationship between evidence and proof?

You "ain't doing this crap" because you have no evidence for your beliefs. So you can't prove what you believe. I do have evidence for my beliefs so I am able to prove my beliefs.

 

[ding]

You don't know how fascist you are.

Please enlighten me. What kind of things have I done that would lead you to believe I am a fascist?

I just had a discussion on evidence and proof with Arlette. Do I need to have that discussion with you too?

 

[Arlette]

Do you what evidence is? Do you know the relationship between evidence and proof?

You "ain't doing this crap" because you have no evidence for your beliefs. So you can't prove what you believe. I do have evidence for my beliefs so I am able to prove my beliefs.

The evidence is that no country in the western world uses the Bible to justify policy.

 

[ding]

The evidence is that no country in the western world uses the Bible to justify policy.

So what? What does that have to do with anything?

Are you well educated?