Zone1 What’s behind the demonization of Israel?
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Frankeneinstein
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"UM" 10/7 is what is always left out, its the reminding the anti-semites of that fact that drives the condemnation of Israel, nothing else.
Frankeneinstein
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civility is what allowed 10/7 to occur in the first place...
no, look what they did to the jews, and what happened to them for that was, as we all know, a happy ending...was that civilized JoeBob?
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It is war against a nation that should have been deported long ago.
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Ever since the Islamic massacre of innocent Jews on 10/7, and committed on the most joyous holiday of the Jewish calendar, antisemites have taken to demonizing Israel - and the Jews who support it. In this article by Victor Davis Hansen, the following reasons are discussed:
1. DEI proponents “established” that there are groups with supposedly legitimate grievances for whom all sorts of exceptions are made because, well….they're oppressed. That has empowered them to voice all sorts of heinous, racist opinions, as they know their “oppressed status” gives them leniency, and people are afraid to criticize the protected binary.
2. Demographics. Muslims are overtaking Jews in population, due not only to immigration but their much higher birthrate. As it now stands, some areas are majority Muslim, and the antipathy to Jews Is palatable. Muslim are now serving on the local boards of leftist areas, and of course are making inroads into mayoral and Congressional spots - and bringing their Israel-hate along with them.
3. Money. Rich Arab countries have bought their way into American universities with billions of dollars - and the leftist schools already predisposed to siding with Muslims over Jews are bought and paid for. The anti-Israel indoctrination starts with freshmen orientation with “anti-Israel” booklets and lapses over into overt antisemitism with “No Jew zones’ and bullying and assaults of Jewish students.
The Demonization of Israel
Victor Davis Hanson breaks down the reasons antisemitism is on the rise in America, and the reasons it is becoming acceptable.www.dailysignal.com
Most are just simple-minded fashion victims and go along with their leadership. It's part and parcel of hating America, a practice picked up in the 1960's, when it was cool to hate America, and when LBJ offered ally status to Israel it pissed off the Soviets, especially when the Israelis made burning junk piles out of their armor sold to their Arab clients and allies. The doper deviants in the US merely started aping their Euro commie heroes. Leftist academics here in the US dutifully began parroting their Pravda masters and marched in lockstep with the GErman 'New Left' assholes.
Being Leftist and Anti-Semitic in Germany
After the reunification of Germany, 1989 surveys indicated that there was much more anti-Semitism in West Germany than in East Germany. This was a fallacy arising from the distinction between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism. Since then, Eastern German "anti-Zionism" has merged with Western German...
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Common Ground between Right and Left
Today’s German anti-Semitism is deeply connected to the Nazi period and the wish to expunge guilt and responsibility for dealing with it. Right-wing extremism, neo-Nazism, and extreme conservatism seem “naturally” linked to denial or minimalization of the Holocaust, or calling for a new one. As elsewhere in Europe, a relatively new “brotherhood” has emerged in Germany between the extreme Right and fundamentalist Islam.
Anti-Zionism, however – which is not mere criticism of Israeli policies, but the denial of the Jewish people’s right to live in their own state – also links leftists and rightists. Since the Six Day War of 1967, both the extreme and the mainstream Left in Europe have shown strong anti-Zionist tendencies, not always distinguishable from anti-Semitism. Although leftist anti-Zionism seemed to decline after the fall of Communism in 1990, it was reanimated by the Second Intifada and the antiglobalization movement, which is today a main source of leftist anti-Semitism.
In a May 2002 survey in the weekly magazine Der Spiegel, 25% agreed that “what the state of Israel does to the Palestinians is no different than what the Nazis did during the Third Reich to the Jews.”2 A new scholarly book analyzes how deeply anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism are rooted in German society.3 Since 1989, united Germany seems to stand on two main pillars: a strong anti-American and anti-Israeli attitude.
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Anti-Zionism, however – which is not mere criticism of Israeli policies, but the denial of the Jewish people’s right to live in their own state – also links leftists and rightists. Since the Six Day War of 1967, both the extreme and the mainstream Left in Europe have shown strong anti-Zionist tendencies, not always distinguishable from anti-Semitism. Although leftist anti-Zionism seemed to decline after the fall of Communism in 1990, it was reanimated by the Second Intifada and the antiglobalization movement, which is today a main source of leftist anti-Semitism.
In a May 2002 survey in the weekly magazine Der Spiegel, 25% agreed that “what the state of Israel does to the Palestinians is no different than what the Nazis did during the Third Reich to the Jews.”2 A new scholarly book analyzes how deeply anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism are rooted in German society.3 Since 1989, united Germany seems to stand on two main pillars: a strong anti-American and anti-Israeli attitude.
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Student Radicalization
During the Six Day War, the New Left definitively transformed its hitherto moderate pro-Arab positions into full support for Arab states and the Palestinians, and its fragile pro-Israeli attitudes dissolved into anti-Semitic slogans thinly disguised as “anti-imperialist” criticism of a “fascist state.”
After 1967, however, not only the radicals but large parts of the German Left turned their backs on Israel. This went hand in hand with protests against the Vietnam War, against the conservative mainstream in Adenauer’s Germany and afterward the “Great Coalition” that was headed from 1966 by Chancellor Kurt Georg Kiesinger, a former member of the Nazi Party.6 The New Left also idealized Communist China and Ho Chi Minh, despite their involvement in mass murder against their own people.7
Well-known intellectuals who were more moderate leftists tried to dissuade the New Left from its extreme positions. Ernst Bloch, Jean Amery, Herbert Marcuse, Iring Fetscher, and Jean-Paul Sartre argued with the radicals and discouraged blind solidarity with the PLO, as opposed to legitimate criticism of Israeli policies. They warned that notions of Israel’s annihilation were intolerable and linked to National Socialist ideology. However, they were not heeded by the radicals.8
What's hilarious here in this site is those conspiratards who are constantly sniveling about 'the deep state' are the biggest suckers and consumers of 'old Soviet 'deep state' bullshit, and can't go a day without parroting crap form the 1960's as if they just discovered a cure for cancer or something. Anybody who has watched a lot of those 'scumbag vermin in the street' interviews of rioters when asked why they hate Israel, they can't even babble coherently on why that is, same as is the case here on this board and most others.
After 1967, however, not only the radicals but large parts of the German Left turned their backs on Israel. This went hand in hand with protests against the Vietnam War, against the conservative mainstream in Adenauer’s Germany and afterward the “Great Coalition” that was headed from 1966 by Chancellor Kurt Georg Kiesinger, a former member of the Nazi Party.6 The New Left also idealized Communist China and Ho Chi Minh, despite their involvement in mass murder against their own people.7
Well-known intellectuals who were more moderate leftists tried to dissuade the New Left from its extreme positions. Ernst Bloch, Jean Amery, Herbert Marcuse, Iring Fetscher, and Jean-Paul Sartre argued with the radicals and discouraged blind solidarity with the PLO, as opposed to legitimate criticism of Israeli policies. They warned that notions of Israel’s annihilation were intolerable and linked to National Socialist ideology. However, they were not heeded by the radicals.8
What's hilarious here in this site is those conspiratards who are constantly sniveling about 'the deep state' are the biggest suckers and consumers of 'old Soviet 'deep state' bullshit, and can't go a day without parroting crap form the 1960's as if they just discovered a cure for cancer or something. Anybody who has watched a lot of those 'scumbag vermin in the street' interviews of rioters when asked why they hate Israel, they can't even babble coherently on why that is, same as is the case here on this board and most others.
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luiza
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You omit the fact that so many of these Nazis were Jewish .
Usual deceit and dishonesty .
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One of the best ways to understand something is to look at how it is funded and how money flows in and out. Follow the money, not the emotions. AIPAC is a very powerful lobby in DC, maybe it started preferentially funding the GOP and the dumocraps feel a need to punish AIPAC for that? And their best tool for punishing anything is their control of the MSM and ability to sway public opinion. OTOH, maybe the Arab countries, which also have very powerful lobbies, are funding the dumocrap party preferentially and that explains the recent love affair with Islam. And we all know China is flooding the dumocraps with money, which explains their love for China. Buying American politicians and funding their party gets you favorable public opinion, and then that country can do whatever it wants to America.
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Why do 35,000 Jews live peacefully in Iran?
How did Jews, Muslims and Christians live peacefully in Palestine for 500 years prior to 1947?
Why is it that the IDF targets and destroys synagogues in Iran?
Why did Bibi secretly funnel $35MM in untraceable cash monthly to Hamas leadership?
SweetTea
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And do what when Hamas hides behind innocent residents?
How many innocent residents for various countries died in WWI and WWII? Face it, wars are started by governments, not by the people, but the people often pay the price. If the US was a war with China, do you think they would bomb our mainland but spare our innocent residents? Israel was at least attempting to take out Hamas, the Palestinian government. The fact that they hid behind innocent residents is on them, not Israel.
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SweetTea
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I guess you haven’t seen pictures of Berlin. It was a wasteland after bombing in WWII by the British, the US and the French. Between 20 and 50k people were killed. You need a history lesson.
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Don’t confuse antisemites with facts. It hurts their efforts to demonize Israel, which is driven by their Jew-hate in the first place.
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Believe it or not, you can condemn the actions of Israel without hating Jews
Votto
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Assuming what you say is true, what is their motive for all this?
What is their end game do you think?
Why does the IDF want to murder so many people as you claim?
And do you dispute the notion that Iran is a despotic regime with the blood of hundreds of thousands of people, if not more, including their own citizens?
JoeB131
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If Israel limited itself to just taking out the Hamas leadership and rescuing the hostages, you might have a point.
But this is about slaughtering the people of Gaza as a whole.
Because they finally found an excuse.
JoeB131
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The Nazis said the same thing about the Genocide they were committing in Poland.
JoeB131
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And that was a war crime. (Especially the bombing of Dresden).
Nothing compared to what we did to the Japanese, but it wasn't like they were white, amiright?
Of course, comparing a quasi-state in Gaza that relied on Israel for electricity to Nazi Germany at the height of its power is a little silly.
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As usual, fake news from a fully indoctrinated soul.
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