Zone1 What would Jesus do about the GOP plan?

[hobelim]

You are disagreeing with the finding not the legal ramification of the finding. The legal ramification is that if abortion is found to not be constitutionally protected, then legislation of abortion is passed to the states.

But thats the thing. It had been the established law of the land that the right to an abortion was constitutionally protected since 1973 until this current Supreme Court decided to defy the constitution and openly and brazenly denied women their established constitutional rights by judges openly corrupted by religion power and greed.

 

[ding]

But thats the thing. It had been the established law of the land that the right to abortion was constitutionally protected since 1973 until this current Supreme Court decided to defy the constitution and openly and brazenly denied women their established constitutional rights by judges openly corrupted by religion power and greed.

And the finding was that it isn’t constitutionally protected which was the position before Roe v Wade.

 

[hobelim]

And the finding was that it isn’t constitutionally protected which was the position before Roe v Wade.

"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

Yeah well people tend to do whatever they want regardless of what the church or state says. Same as it ever was


BTW, by saying "people" I meant "living beings". Not the "dead", brainwashed, who only do what they are told.

 

[ding]

"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

Yeah well people tend to do whatever they want regardless of what the church or state says. Same as it ever was


BTW, by saying "people" I meant "living beings". Not the "dead", brainwashed, who only do what they are told.

Again… abortion isn’t a religious issue. Your conspiracy theories are running amok. Again.

 

[hobelim]

Again… abortion isn’t a religious issue. Your conspiracy theories are running amok. Again.

No one in government or the private sector was against abortion as a woman's individual right except for those addled by religion. Many politicians have openly said so, they were acting on their subjective religious beliefs.

Thats a verifiable fact, not a conspiracy theory.

 

[citygator]

Jesus wasn’t a politician. And yes you are complaining that politicians aren’t putting their religion into government.

I’m a skank? Clearly I have struck a nerve. The truth usually hurts before it helps.

What? It’s about how moral or immoral the policies are that the GOP supports. I used Jesus as their bellwether for what is moral. There is zero in the policy about praying and worshiping so by definition it ISNT RELIGION. I think you just aren’t very smart so you just get easily confused. Let me spell it out so even you can understand:

Religion: Mandatating the 10 commandments in schools

NOT Religion: Following the teachings of Jesus to Implement policies that address the things he was concerned about, poverty, elderly, children, the needy, the less fortunate.

Religion: Outlawing same sex marriages because your religion says it is a sin

NOT Religion: Following the teachings of Jesus to ensure that those with the means provide the most support.

Are you getting the difference?

 

[ding]

No one in the government or the private sector was against abortion except for those addled by religion.

Many politicians have openly said so.

Thats a verifiable fact, not a conspiracy theory.

Obviously the constitutionality of Roe v Wade was challenged and found to be unconstitutional. The legal ramification of the finding was to let the states decide. Which is how the constitution works. You are butt hurt and are making irrational arguments because you can’t accept the finding. So you manufacture conspiracy theories instead.

 

[citygator]

If Jesus was just some story, then no. Your ideology would not be the same.

It sure would. Jesus’ teachings about how we should act are not weird and are 100% aligned with a non-Christian ideal behavior with the exception of how to think about God and Jesus themselves. How people behave is transferable outside the worship.

 

[hadit]

The most intelligent way is to tax those who have more than it takes to live progressively. It has the most utility in economic terms and is Biblical if you care, or at least ethical.

Are we supposed to be running a theocracy, basing our laws on what Jesus taught? That's not a bad idea at all but surprises me that you would go down that road. I mean, let's protect unborn children, for sure.

 

[ding]

What? It’s about how moral or immoral the policies are that the GOP supports. I used Jesus as their bellwether for what is moral. There is zero in the policy about praying and worshiping so by definition it ISNT RELIGION. I think you just aren’t very smart so you just get easily confused. Let me spell it out so even you can understand:

Religion: Mandatating the 10 commandments in schools

NOT Religion: Following the teachings of Jesus to Implement policies that address the things he was concerned about, poverty, elderly, children, the needy, the less fortunate.

Religion: Outlawing same sex marriages because your religion says it is a sin

NOT Religion: Following the teachings of Jesus to ensure that those with the means provide the most support.

Are you getting the difference?

Apparently you want to subvert our secular government and go straight to a dictatorship to force your beliefs on others. That’s not how our government works.

 

[citygator]

Are we supposed to be running a theocracy, basing our laws on what Jesus taught? That's not a bad idea at all but surprises me that you would go down that road. I mean, let's protect unborn children, for sure.

Jesus didnt preach a single time about cells growing in the body. He did preach A TON on how to treat actual people though. AGAIN it’s not about making people worship or believe, the thread is about how can a GOP defend its policies against the teachings of Jesus.

 

[citygator]

Apparently you want to subvert our secular government and go straight to a dictatorship to force your beliefs on others. That’s not how our government works.

If you are not Christian.. ignore the thread. If you are, then how can you support a GOP policy that is the antithesis of what Jesus preached?

 

[hobelim]

Are we supposed to be running a theocracy, basing our laws on what Jesus taught?

If people were doing what Jesus taught "the faithful" would never have elected to any public office high or low the epitome of the talking serpent of old. They would've been condemned as the lowest of all human life forms.

They would be casting out devils from the lofty places they have usurped through the magical arts, sorcery, what is now well known as brainwashing or mind control.

Remember? Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. To understand the will of God, see Genesis 3:14.

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That's not a bad idea at all but surprises me that you would go down that road. I mean, let's protect unborn children, for sure.

Sure. And what about after they are born? Screw them and **** the women who have to deal with it. What a guy!

 

[ding]

It sure would. Jesus’ teachings about how we should act are not weird and are 100% aligned with a non-Christian ideal behavior with the exception of how to think about God and Jesus themselves. How people behave is transferable outside the worship.

Your trying to force your beliefs on others says otherwise. Everyone has free will to do as they please. You want to force your beliefs on others. I’m happy to let each person decide for themselves and suffer the consequences of their choices.

Your utopian vision aligns more with atheism than Christianity. Christians understand the world is not fair and expect to make sacrifices. Christians trust in God. Not politicians.

 

[ding]

If you are not Christian.. ignore the thread. If you are, then how can you support a GOP policy that is the antithesis of what Jesus preached?

I understand we live in a fallen world. How can you not?

 

[citygator]

Your trying to force your beliefs on others says otherwise. Everyone has free will to do as they please. You want to force your beliefs on others. I’m happy to let each person to decide for themselves and let them suffer the consequences of their choices.

Your utopian vision aligns more with atheism than Christianity. Christians understand the world is not fair and expect to make sacrifices. Christians trust in God. Not politicians.

You are 100% arguing your own strawman. Suggesting that the current platform of the GOP is anti-Christian doesn’t suggest that everyone needs to be Christian, or anyone needs to be. Again, requiring the 10 Commandments in school is pushing religion. Advocating for a more graduated tax rate because Jesus said that those with more should be asked for more and was extremely focused on the needy isn’t theocracy dipshit.

 

[ding]

No one in government or the private sector was against abortion as a woman's individual right except for those addled by religion. Many politicians have openly said so, they were acting on their subjective religious beliefs.

Thats a verifiable fact, not a conspiracy theory.

Abortion is a human rights issue, not a religious issue. Some religious people support abortion and some non-religious people support the right to life.

So, yes, that’s some conspiracy theory you have there.

 

[ding]

You are 100% arguing your own strawman. Suggesting that the current platform of the GOP is anti-Christian doesn’t suggest that everyone needs to be Christian, or anyone needs to be. Again, requiring the 10 Commandments in school is pushing religion. Advocating for a more graduated tax rate because Jesus said that those with more should be asked for more and was extremely focused on the needy isn’t theocracy dipshit.

I’m suggesting I don’t mix my faith with politics. I control what I can and trust in the Lord for everything else.

 

[citygator]

I’m suggesting I don’t mix my faith with politics. I control what I can and trust in the Lord for everything else.

If you do have faith that includes a future meeting with a Creator of sorts… the first thing I would be prepared to say is “I am so sorry for voting and following Trump and his policies you probably hate”. I doubt it does any good.

 

[ding]

If you do have faith that includes a future meeting with a Creator of sorts… the first thing I would be prepared to say is “I am so sorry for voting and following Trump and his policies you probably hate”. I doubt it does any good.

Spoken like a political ideologue. You see things that are far off as being close and things that are close as being far off. I’m pretty sure the Lord will be focusing on how we deal with the things that are actually close. You have zero control over the things you are obsessing about. You should focus your energy on things within your control and trust in the Lord for everything else. Or you could just keep doing what you are doing and live in unrest and discord.