Zone1 What rituals are necessary for salvation?

[The Irish Ram]

If he created cancer, people dying from cancer is his fault.
People dying from old age or being murdered isnt.
You are misrepresenting what im saying because thats all you can do. You are in a corner.

God created Eden. And none of the things you referred to existed there. Not cancer, not old age, not death, no having to till the soil for food. No pain in childbirth. And Adam had dominion over all. He ruled the earth until he unleashed evil and was forced to turn dominion over to Lucifer. Lucifer offered Jesus dominion over the earth if Jesus would just bow down to him. He could offer that because he had all of that.

Job 1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

He's your cancer, He's your murderer, He's your death. He's the evil in the world. What God does is pick you up before you hit the ground and gives you eternal Paradise if you are one of His children. < That's the choice we have to make, and God offers it as a gift. A very expensive gift, brought to you from the cross.

So, that's how it is for now, But, Satan's time is limited. Christ is coming, and he's bringing Eden back with Him.

 

[BreezeWood]

when it is time to return to Earth with Christ to rule and reign with our brother. We have work to do.

prove your claim there will ever be a messiah, judaism - made in the heavens.

for as long as the desert bibles are worshiped and their creation not kept holy the heavens will not return than for the final judgement and removal of the desert dwellers once and forever as is their promise to the victims of their injustice.

 

[ding]

prove your claim there will ever be a messiah, judaism - made in the heavens.

for as long as the desert bibles are worshiped and their creation not kept holy the heavens will not return than for the final judgement and removal of the desert dwellers once and forever as is their promise to the victims of their injustice.

Why? Is that what is holding you up from seeking God. If you seek God, you will find God.

 

[The Irish Ram]

prove your claim there will ever be a messiah, judaism - made in the heavens.

for as long as the desert bibles are worshiped and their creation not kept holy the heavens will not return than for the final judgement and removal of the desert dwellers once and forever as is their promise to the victims of their injustice.

Breezie, you're an island unto yourself...

 

[Woodznutz]

But Woodz, Jesus gave us the timeline. He said that very day.

Luke 23:43 "Jesus answered him, 'I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise.'"

Only their bodies went to the tombs. Their souls went to Paradise/Abraham's Bosom. Jesus confirmed that is where He was headed. None of those people's souls were sleeping. Matthew said Jesus brought all the souls in Abraham's Bosom back with Him. They retrieved their former bodies that we in the tombs and were now glorified. Those tombs are the ones that opened during the earthquake while Christ was on the cross.

I'm sorry to be so contrary, but you aren't going to sleep. You are going to Heaven to have a Coronation, and receive your crowns and robe because you are royalty. Your Father is the Most High. And you also will be reunited with your upgraded body, when it is time to return to Earth with Christ to rule and reign with our brother. We have work to do.

The Greek didn't use commas, so the placing of the comma after truth was arbitrary by the translators. It should be placed after today, thus,

"I tell you the truth today (at this time, now), you will be with me in paradise."

Did not use commas
The ancient Greeks did not use commas in the same way as modern punctuation. They utilized punctuation marks such as the colon ) and the Greek question mark (, which resemble modern punctuation but serve different functions. The Greek writing style, known as scriptio continua, was continuous without spaces or punctuation, relying on context and rhythm for clarity. While modern punctuation has evolved, the ancient Greeks' methods of reading and writing were distinct from contemporary practices.

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You also have to ask, just where did Jesus go on that day that he would have taken the thief with him, to the tomb? That's where Jesus went on that day.

 

[markef]

According to your church or denomination.

A sinner must believe and receive the Light clearly revealed to him by the Holy Spirit in order to be saved.

 

[Woodznutz]

Jesus said, "Take, eat; this is my body" (Matthew 26:26, Mark 14:22, Luke 22:19) and you do not read that literally, right?

I take this literally.
King James Bible
"And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."

Written by John between 85 and 100 A.D.