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Of course Jesus was a Jew. What else?Jesus was born and raised a Jew. He was called the “King of the Jews”.
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Of course Jesus was a Jew. What else?Jesus was born and raised a Jew. He was called the “King of the Jews”.
Jesus was born and raised a Jew. He was called the “King of the Jews”.
Don’t ever try that anti-Semitic bullshit on a Christian.
Fact.In the LDS faith, its not that we believe doing good works will save us but that Jesus requires us to do good works or he will not save us. Consider the the following scripture
Christianity won out because they created the baddest God of all. They combined all the traits of the Greek gods and then some.Freedom of religion should also mean that one does not fight who is best …
Christianity won out because they created the baddest God of all. They combined all the traits of the Greek gods and then some.
Gotta love this. Another post with no substance. No facts. Just saying, "Look, I don't like you exposing Christianity for the fairy tale "My God's badder than any others, so I'll just post 'you're wrong'"And again you prove you've never read the books. Keep up the good work, making Xian bashers look like the idiots they are.
Gotta love this. Another post with no substance. No facts. Just saying, "Look, I don't like you exposing Christianity for the fairy tale "My God's badder than any others, so I'll just post 'you're wrong'"
jesus was crucified because they would not respond to the jew inquisition allegations choosing to be crucified than acknowledge even a consideration of legitimacy for their tribunal.
jesus mary joseph mary magdalene were not ever jews and did not fear judaism or moses and is why the 1st century is significant as they were blessed for their courage by the heavens - the magi were sent to protect them if you wonder why they were not stoned to death.
you have to be kidding - king of the jews ... the jews murdered them for the very reason they were not one of them.
Freedom of religion should also mean that one does not fight who is best …
I'll keep posting as long as I want and until you show where I was "wrong".Dream up some more strawmen. It's too late to edit your posts and pretend you know what you're talking about. So you'll just have to keep 'Posting Last' i an attempt to cover, so go ahead.
Of course Jesus was a Jew. What else?
why do you think these 4 were not Jews?jesus was crucified because they would not respond to the jew inquisition allegations choosing to be crucified than acknowledge even a consideration of legitimacy for their tribunal.
jesus mary joseph mary magdalene were not ever jews and did not fear judaism or moses and is why the 1st century is significant as they were blessed for their courage by the heavens - the magi were sent to protect them if you wonder why they were not stoned to death.
you have to be kidding - king of the jews ... the jews murdered them for the very reason they were not one of them.
Granted, not all "Christians" may agree as many try to still earn their salvation.
Christianity is a carefully crafted belief system that those who created it knew would win converts through guilt and fear. It tells humans that they are sinners and therefore has a problem, and they have the cure. This makes those contending humans are flawed, and the only help is their religion. In doing so the priests, bishops and church hierarchy gets respect, adulation and wealth through donations they embarrass people into making by telling them that donations are what "God" wants. This is how the Catholic Church amassed a fortune, and it is through primarily poor people thinking that the more they give, the more God smiles down on them. In short, Christianity is a racket preying on the poor and weak.People often think Christianity’s idea of sin is unique — that it stands apart in claiming humans are flawed and need God to be made whole. But that’s just not true.
Almost every major religion starts from the same basic premise: that humans, as we are, aren’t enough. We’re blind, broken, trapped, ignorant, out of balance — pick your term — and we need something beyond ourselves to fix it.
Buddhism says we suffer because of ignorance and attachment. Hinduism talks about karma and illusion. Islam sees humans as forgetful and prone to the ego. Gnosticism, long before or alongside Christianity, claimed we’re divine souls trapped in corrupt flesh. Even ancient Greek mystery cults had this idea — that we’re tainted somehow, and need ritual or knowledge to be reborn.
So no, Christianity isn’t unique in seeing humans as flawed. It just gives that flaw a specific name — sin — and a specific solution — Christ. But the structure? That’s universal. It’s a human thing, not just a Christian one.
Sure, Christianity ran the playbook well — but it didn’t invent it, and I’m not even convinced it did it better than most, historically speaking. It just happened to hit the right alliances at the right time. The Roman Empire adopted it, then weaponized it. That’s not theology; that’s logistics.Christianity is a carefully crafted belief system that those who created it knew would win converts through guilt and fear. It tells humans that they are sinners and therefore has a problem, and they have the cure. This makes those contending humans are flawed, and the only help is their religion. In doing so the priests, bishops and church hierarchy gets respect, adulation and wealth through donations they embarrass people into making by telling them that donations are what "God" wants. This is how the Catholic Church amassed a fortune, and it is through primarily poor people thinking that the more they give, the more God smiles down on them. In short, Christianity is a racket preying on the poor and weak.
Your synopsis is the most spot on I have ever seen by any poster, and you get the "Winner" tag from me. Why others haven't realized what you posted baffles me, but when you look at humanity and its progress, it has not stepped out of the primitive days yet. I wrote a short book, not yet published, of how human indoctrination takes place, and it starts with the caveman and progresses to unified tribes and then to Greek gods to explain calamity and hundreds if not thousands of other invented god concepts. Christianity plagiarized and borrowed from those. You are correct that the Roman Empire adopted it and if it weren't for emperor Constantine, a ruthless mass murderer who killed his own wife and son (and the Catholics made him a venerated saint) who saw that Christianity would be an aid to him in controlling the populace to keep it in fear that there was an invisible god enforcer.Sure, Christianity ran the playbook well — but it didn’t invent it, and I’m not even convinced it did it better than most, historically speaking. It just happened to hit the right alliances at the right time. The Roman Empire adopted it, then weaponized it. That’s not theology; that’s logistics.
Plenty of other religions used the same structure — define the flaw, gatekeep the fix — and some did it just as aggressively. Ancient Egyptian priests, Hindu Brahmins, Buddhist monastics with reincarnation karma math — same system, different mythology.
The real common denominator isn’t Christianity. It’s the institutional instinct to monetize fear and dependency, and to claim divine authority while doing it. Christianity’s just one successful franchise in a long-running global business model.
Your synopsis is the most spot on I have ever seen by any poster, and you get the "Winner" tag from me. Why others haven't realized what you posted baffles me, but when you look at humanity and its progress, it has not stepped out of the primitive days yet. I wrote a short book, not yet published, of how human indoctrination takes place, and it starts with the caveman and progresses to unified tribes and then to Greek gods to explain calamity and hundreds if not thousands of other invented god concepts. Christianity plagiarized and borrowed from those. You are correct that the Roman Empire adopted it and if it weren't for emperor Constantine, a ruthless mass murderer who killed his own wife and son (and the Catholics made him a venerated saint) who saw that Christianity would be an aid to him in controlling the populace to keep it in fear that there was an invisible god enforcer.
The high priests then went into warp speed after languishing for 300 years because many people believed Jesus was "just" a son of God. Inventing the Trinity was a master stroke and Constantine lit the fuse of what would become billions of believers today by showering the priests with new churches, land and money. As it happens religion became government and became ruthless and unfortunate as it is, killing and torturing people for not believing is a very powerful tool to create belief in new babies, passed down through the genes of all those who witnessed the earthly horror of not believing.
LDS?
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Total batshit crazy stuff:
Thank you — that’s kind of you to say. But I have to push back a little on the idea that I’m saying something unique. This line of thought is pretty common — maybe just phrased a little more clearly than usual.Your synopsis is the most spot on I have ever seen by any poster, and you get the "Winner" tag from me. Why others haven't realized what you posted baffles me, but when you look at humanity and its progress, it has not stepped out of the primitive days yet. I wrote a short book, not yet published, of how human indoctrination takes place, and it starts with the caveman and progresses to unified tribes and then to Greek gods to explain calamity and hundreds if not thousands of other invented god concepts. Christianity plagiarized and borrowed from those. You are correct that the Roman Empire adopted it and if it weren't for emperor Constantine, a ruthless mass murderer who killed his own wife and son (and the Catholics made him a venerated saint) who saw that Christianity would be an aid to him in controlling the populace to keep it in fear that there was an invisible god enforcer.
The high priests then went into warp speed after languishing for 300 years because many people believed Jesus was "just" a son of God. Inventing the Trinity was a master stroke and Constantine lit the fuse of what would become billions of believers today by showering the priests with new churches, land and money. As it happens religion became government and became ruthless and unfortunate as it is, killing and torturing people for not believing is a very powerful tool to create belief in new babies, passed down through the genes of all those who witnessed the earthly horror of not believing.