What is the biblical timeline for the next era?

[JustAGuy1]

They expected that Christ would return within a generation (40 years) . So when the believers began dying the congregation needed reassurance that those believers would not miss out or be left behind. They were assured that they too would go to paradise. The "rapture" is bad theology promoted by con men.

You didn't answer the question.

 

[surada]

You didn't answer the question.

norwegen

The rapture is bad theology promoted by charlatans. Futurism neglects the history of the first century and dismisses the early Christians. Charlatans make a pretty good living claiming Russia is Gog and Magog and will attack Israel.. or that the EU is the whore of Babylon. Their political machinations would disgust you if you were smarter or educated.

 

[james bond]

I grew up Baptist and I have some understanding of the biblical predictions of the rapture, the tribulation, the second coming, and other events.

I've never been clear on the timeline, and I wonder if that is because the bible is unclear on the sequence of events.

I would like to ask for your understanding of these predictions. I will respect everyone's input equally, but I would also be interested to know why you believe as you do, did it come from the bible itself, were you taught it, etc.

This is history and not what I was taught. Obviously, the creation date and end of the world is unknown so one has to guess. The Bible timeline on which most scholars agree begins with the calling of Abram, renamed “Abraham” by God (Genesis 17:4–6) in the year 2166 BC, and ends with the writing of the book of Revelation in approximately AD 95. Prior to Abraham’s birth, the Bible timeline beginning in Genesis contains a rich history of creation, Adam and Eve, the Fall of Man, extensive genealogies, stories of human travails leading up to Noah and the Great Flood (date also unknown), and much more.

Below is a list of major events in the Bible timeline, with the date for each. Note: All dates are approximate. Also, the dates for early human history (prior to Abraham) reflect the viewpoint of young earth creationism.

4000 BC (?)— Creation of the world

2344 BC (?)— Noah and the ark

2166 BC — The birth of Abram

2066 BC — The birth of Isaac

1526 BC — The birth of Moses

1446 BC — Israel’s exodus from Egypt

1406 BC — Israel’s entrance to the Promised Land

1383 BC — The death of Joshua

1052 BC — The coronation of King Saul

1011–971 BC — The reign of King David

959 BC — Solomon’s temple completed

931 BC — The dividing of the kingdom

875–797 BC — The ministries of Elijah and Elisha in Israel

739–686 BC — The ministry of Isaiah in Judah

722 BC — The fall of the northern kingdom to Assyria

586 BC — The fall of the southern kingdom to Babylon

538–445 BC — The Jews’ return to Jerusalem after exile

515 BC — The second temple finished

5 BC — The birth of Jesus Christ

AD 29–33 — Christ’s ministry, ending in His death and resurrection

AD 34–35 — The conversion of Saul of Tarsus

AD 48–49 — Paul’s first missionary journey

AD 49 — The Jerusalem Council

AD 60 — The imprisonment of Paul in Rome

AD 95 — John’s vision on Patmos and the writing of Revelation

 

[JustAGuy1]

norwegen

The rapture is bad theology promoted by charlatans. Futurism neglects the history of the first century and dismisses the early Christians. Charlatans make a pretty good living claiming Russia is Gog and Magog and will attack Israel.. or that the EU is the whore of Babylon. Their political machinations would disgust you if you were smarter or educated.

So Jesus isn't coming back.
Jesus wasn't crucified.
Jesus wasn't resurrected.
Mary wasn't a virgin. What a sad life you lead.

 

[Clyde 154]

Genesis was written after the Babylonian exile and after Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Jews didn't exist when the Sumerian wrote Gilgamesh. By the time of Adam and Eve Sumer had a written language, agriculture, irrigation and sailboats. The Ugarit tablets at Ras Shamra also predate Abraham.

Again.......because something was written first does not make it true, as they all game first from an ORAL HISTORICAL ACCOUNT. Your logical fallacy has been debunked ad nauseam.

 

[Clyde 154]

Might wanna look up the actual history of the KJV Bible and see how it was edited. And yeah, it is a long game of telephone over the centuries as it was translated from Hebrew (done by the original authors) to Greek (look it up sometime), to Roman (when they sacked Jerusalem and took it as they thought it had power) to English (where it was bastardized during the Niecine council). Nope, not opinion, but rather historical fact. Too bad you are so blinded in your devotion to see it.

There are no "verbatim" translations.........the scriptures are translated to the nearest use that keeps intact the subject matter, and contextual story line........the scriptures interpret themselves when one keeps the contextual integrity intact. Jesus Christ Himself quoted from the Greek translation called the Septuagint, in fact the writers of the New Testament used the Septuagint almost exclusively............

As the Christ also quoted..........."Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel".

The Holy Scriptures existed long before the King James Translation.........and there are many more modern translations that verify that King James kept the contextual integrity intact. There are many valid translations that have been translated directly from the Greek Septuagint. Just a few........New King James, American Standard, New American Standard, the English Standard Version......all lose nothing in translation.

All 39 books of the Old Testament were translated from the original Hebrew into the Greek 200 years before Christ was born.
It was not practical to the Jews to continue to use a dying language (original Hebrew) to teach and instruct.......so many Jewish scholars worked together in translating the Hebrew into the universal language of that time..........Greek.

I find it very funny when someone claims they have more biblical knowledge because they have studied the original Greek and it is corrupted when translated.

If God incarnate had no problem using a Translation from the Original Hebrew........why should anyone else? After God has revealed this, why would the God of creation reserve salvation for only a few smart people....He would want everyone to read what He has revealed. In fact the New Testament declares exactly that............"God wants everyone to find salvation by coming to the KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH." -- 1 Tim. 2:4

 

[Dayton3]

The word used is Parousia.

Which is NOT "rapture"

 

[surada]

Again.......because something was written first does not make it true, as they all game first from an ORAL HISTORICAL ACCOUNT. Your logical fallacy has been debunked ad nauseam.

The stories predate Abraham by nearly a thousand years.

 

[cnm]

really, does anyone ascend the heavens in the physiology they were born in -

Buster Scruggs?

 

[cnm]

This thread has been great. As good as Dune if not quite as believable...

 

[surada]

So Jesus isn't coming back.
Jesus wasn't crucified.
Jesus wasn't resurrected.
Mary wasn't a virgin. What a sad life you lead.

We're talking about futurism not scripture.

 

[norwegen]

Actually, Jesus was Jewish, and those of the Jewish faith were already God's chosen. Jesus didn't come for those of the Jewish faith, He came for everyone else (i.e. the Gentiles).

Jesus came for Israel, not Gentiles.

 

[Dayton3]

The stories predate Abraham by nearly a thousand years.

The stories about men going to the moon predate the Apollo program by a hundred years.

that does not mean the Apollo program was inspired by Jules Verne.

 

[norwegen]

norwegen

The rapture is bad theology promoted by charlatans. Futurism neglects the history of the first century and dismisses the early Christians. Charlatans make a pretty good living claiming Russia is Gog and Magog and will attack Israel.. or that the EU is the whore of Babylon. Their political machinations would disgust you if you were smarter or educated.

To believe that 1 Thessalonians 4:17 is a reference to a rapture, we first must believe that a person’s spirit, which defies natural existence, can be manipulated by nature, that even after he dies, the spiritual man still shares confines with the natural man. But of course, the natural order is not eternity. This verse is about something completely different than a lifting up of the church into the atmosphere. Objects cannot float around the earth in the air that we breathe. But if, somehow, people were to do that in their alleged new physical bodies, they would still be restricted to the very confines that natural man is restricted to: the same planet in the same space. Nothing would change. That is not eternal life.

When Paul wrote this letter to the Thessalonians, many Christians had already died, and even more would die before Christ would come to judge. That alone denotes a spiritual gathering because a great cloud of witnesses had been assembling to encourage believers to persevere (Heb 12:1). This was not a great assembly of corporeal bodies hovering above the ground. History records no such occurrence, and an observable cloud like this defies the biblical meaning of a cloud. It is a cloud of witnesses who died in Christ in union with the divine glory of God, something like the cloud of heaven in which the Lord often accompanied His armies or the cloud of heaven in which he came in his kingdom. The Lord had often appeared in clouds of shekinah glory, always invisible to the naked eye. Such a cloud is not a puff of condensation in the troposphere or a cluster of human bodies floating overhead. That’s just nonsensical. The imagery is comical. A cloud is a cloud of heaven, as plainly stated in the Scriptures.

Like those who had died before the judgment and resurrection, those who were still alive afterward should trust that they, too, would be caught up in this great cloud of glory with their Father and their brethren. They, too, would be caught up when their time came, that is, when their perishable bodies would be sown in dishonor and weakness and their imperishable bodies raised in glory and power (1 Cor 15:42-44).

 

[surada]

The stories about men going to the moon predate the Apollo program by a hundred years.

that does not mean the Apollo program was inspired by Jules Verne.

That's right.

 

[Clyde 154]

The stories predate Abraham by nearly a thousand years.

And? Prove the ORAL HISTORY predates Genesis. You cannot prove nor disprove anything past Recorded History, and as demonstrated simply because something was written first does not make it first nor correct. Why do all antichrists dance in circles? There is no method to combat the Holy Ghost from the Godhead of the Creator. The Genesis accounts professes to be a historical account from day one of creation. You cannot disprove this account by simply stating an ad hominem claim that Genesis was parroted from other accounts and when those accounts are compared.........they are as far apart as a dog attempting to mount a cat.

The difference in the other accounts of creation and the flood? The genesis account was Inspired by God......the other accounts were embellished from the minds of men, thus the opposing accounts when compared.

 

[surada]

And? Prove the ORAL HISTORY predates Genesis. You cannot prove nor disprove anything past Recorded History, and as demonstrated simply because something was written first does not make it first nor correct. Why do all antichrists dance in circles? There is no method to combat the Holy Ghost from the Godhead of the Creator. The Genesis accounts professes to be a historical account from day one of creation. You cannot disprove this account by simply stating an ad hominem claim that Genesis was parroted from other accounts and when those accounts are compared.........they are as far apart as a dog attempting to mount a cat.

Abraham was a "friend of God".. not a Jew. That came a little bit later. The myths of Sumer, Egypt and Ras Shamra came much earlier.. The Bible stories aren't history and were never intended as such. They are teaching narratives. I didn't realize that you are a fundamentalist... Dominionist or Dispensationist?
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[JustAGuy1]

We're talking about futurism not scripture.

Nope, everyone of those is Scriptural.

 

[JustAGuy1]

We're talking about futurism not scripture.

I'm just curious, how did you develop such a twisted view of Scripture>

 

[Dayton3]

I'm just curious, how did you develop such a twisted view of Scripture>

He is far far far from the only one.