Zone1 What is Roman Catholicism ??

[Zebra]

My question is what is Roman Cathollicism ? I use to hear that it was a cult.?/!

it is the first form of the Christian beliefs

2000 years old now

 

[ding]

Yes, Judas did hold keys of the Kingdom. You just know what that means. In the Bible, specifically in Matthew 16:19, holding the "keys of the kingdom" symbolizes the authority to govern and make binding decisions in spiritual matters. It represents the power to either admit or exclude people from the kingdom of God, which is the realm of God's rule and influence. The Power of the Keys, also known as the Office of the Keys, is a responsibility given to Peter to usher in the Kingdom of God on the Day of Pentecost, and a responsibility given to the other apostles by Jesus, according to Matthew 16:19 and Matthew 18:18. Now, others are appointed with keys as well. Bishops over their various church. But, they only have authority or keys over their church. Peter had keys over all the church and in fact, the world after Jesus passed away. If he were to misuse them, he could lose them as well. Like Judas did. But, the apostles that were left, including new ones called, like Paul, were conferred keys of the kingdom on them too until there were no ones left holding the keys when John disappeared. No more apostles. Apostasy.

You've yet to provide the scripture that all apostles held the keys to the kingdom. So until you do that or acknowledge there is no scriptural support for that belief, there's not really much more to discuss.

 

[ding]

I didn't say it. Jesus said it. Do you have a reading problem. Jesus said, did In not tell you that ye are gods also? The words are there. Jehovah and the Father said in Genesis, man has become like US! Jesus even said we could end up joint heirs of our Father's kingdom.

Actually he didn't say you can become gods which is what you believe. He said isn't it written you are gods? But even that wasn't his intention. It wasn't a statement. It was a question.

 

[ding]

He does. Accept, he is not the senior apostle in the Lord's Church today. But, as the other 14 after President Nelson, also have keys too. There are apostles and then there is a quorum of 12 apostles. The first Presidency has currently 3 apostles that makes 15. John would make 16 if he presented himself. But, he has a specific mission as do the 3 Nephites from the ancient Americas who are also transliterated and walking the earth as well.

I disagree. Your prophets are false according to your own beliefs.

 

[zaangalewa]

My earthly father is not a holy man or holy father. I actually called him dad.

I don't like to follow up on this but so you call your father father although you hold the more or less absurd opinion that the Book of Books forbids it. The reason why you do so is because Catholics call the pope father, call abbots and abbesses father and fatheress and call in generell every priest father. And also the own [foster] father father. Oh ... nearly I forgot that we call also god our father [in heaven].

Question: Could it be that everyone in the world calls the own father father and that this picture Jesus used "the only one you should call father" shows what so many people like to understand and what we say in every church service? In German this is the sentence "Wir heissen nicht nur 'Kinder Gottes', wir sind es!" - My translation is: “We are not just called 'children of God' - we are.“

What about to visit for 4 years every Sunday a Catholic church service? Then you will not only travel through the long centuries of the bible but you could perhaps also find out how terrible my translation was. By the way: What Jesus spoke in Aramaic and what we noticed in Greek and what you will hear in English in the USA has a spirit which has to be always again new translated into the language with the very long word "I, now".

If you can't understand why Jesus strongly stated DON'T CALL ANYONE FATHER he is referring to the faithful to their leaders. Uggg...

First of all calls everyone - also you - the own father father. When Jesus said "Don't do so" then he perhaps not really said "Don't do so" but did just simple say "Wake up. Now I will tell you something what's important, this is ... "!

And in case I will die and Jesus will say "You called your father father - that's a terrible sin - you will go to hell now." Then I will only answer "Nice joke, Satana. You can now take the costume off again. I'll come with you if God sees fit. Who would I be if I resisted the will of God? Definitely not the one I think I know."

 

[Crepitus]

Specially your religion atheism? From which point of view do you say so? What is your own position? Not to be encultured and civilized is by the way one of the worst problems of your president Donald Trump and the cult all around this atheist. Donald Trump is a problem for the USA - and I do not think Leo XIV is the solution but Leo XIV is a man who is able to give orientation in times of desorientation and desinformation. Perhaps he is even able to help you personally to become a [part of a] solution and not to stay to be a [part of a] problem on your own.

Atheism is not a religion. That's just something the religious whack-jobs cooked up.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

The short answer to the OP is that Roman Catholicism (which I was indoctrinated into) is a cult. Looking at these posts reminds me of just how whacked out the cult is with arguments about every little thing and what some unknown writer who wrote IN THE NAME OF AN APOSTLE meant when he wrote blah blah blah and when that contradicts what Paul said or John or Luke or what Jesus allegedly said, it's not a contradiction because blah blah blah.

I am happy that I came to my senses in my mid-twenties after the indoctrinmation and propaganda that God loves us but he can also kill all of humanity because some are bad and you better watch out, like some mafia hitman warning a business who doesn't obey the mafia kingpin and pay up.

So, everyone here believes different things and by virtue of those beliefs that they "know" are true, they will be spared while their family members and friends won't and that's cool. Catholicism/Christianity is the greatest story ever sold to a fearful populace and those at the head positions should be ashamed of peddling such obvious nonsense.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Atheism is not a religion. That's just something the religious whack-jobs cooked up.

Danm Goldman? The political assassin attorney who hates Trump and tries to impeach him TWICE!

 

[Crepitus]

Danm Goldman? The political assassin attorney who hates Trump and tries to impeach him TWICE!

What planet are you from again?

 

[Paradoxical#1]

What planet are you from again?

What? Are you saying my post is wrong?

 

[Crepitus]

What? Are you saying my post is wrong?

You need to work on understanding Earthing idioms.

Yes, I meant your post was wrong.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

You need to work on understanding Earthing idioms.

Yes, I meant your post was wrong.

Great debate skills on display. “You’re wrong”. What next? Nana Nana Nana with your fingers in your ears and tongue sticking out?

 

[Crepitus]

Great debate skills on display. “You’re wrong”. What next? Nana Nana Nana with your fingers in your ears and tongue sticking out?

Perhaps I should have been clearer. "you're wrong" doesn't really cover it. "You are a brainwashing victim" would be closer, but still not exact, since that implies you didn't volunteer for it. I don't know if science or the English language has a word or phrase to encompass the weird combination of misinformation, brainwashing, cult-like submission, sheer pig-headedness, and aggression associated with the tRumpling race.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Perhaps I should have been clearer. "you're wrong" doesn't really cover it. "You are a brainwashing victim" would be closer, but still not exact, since that implies you didn't volunteer for it. I don't know if science or the English language has a word or phrase to encompass the weird combination of misinformation, brainwashing, cult-like submission, sheer pig-headedness, and aggression associated with the tRumpling race.

WTF are you talking about? You are in the wrong thread. This is about the cult called Roman Catholic. You know.....like Heaven's Gate, Mormons, Leftists. There are many threads where you can bash Trump to dry the tears of TDS.

 

[zaangalewa]

Atheism is not a religion.

What's wrong. Atheism is not knowledge but belief.

That's just something the religious whack-jobs cooked up.

No. That's logic. Tell me why something exists and not only nothing exists.

 

[zaangalewa]

The short answer to the OP is that Roman Catholicism (which I was indoctrinated into) is a cult. Looking at these posts reminds me of just how whacked out the cult is with arguments about every little thing and what some unknown writer who wrote IN THE NAME OF AN APOSTLE meant when he wrote blah blah blah and when that contradicts what Paul said or John or Luke or what Jesus allegedly said, it's not a contradiction because blah blah blah.

I am happy that I came to my senses in my mid-twenties after the indoctrinmation and propaganda that God loves us but he can also kill all of humanity because some are bad and you better watch out, like some mafia hitman warning a business who doesn't obey the mafia kingpin and pay up.

So, everyone here believes different things and by virtue of those beliefs that they "know" are true, they will be spared while their family members and friends won't and that's cool. Catholicism/Christianity is the greatest story ever sold to a fearful populace and those at the head positions should be ashamed of peddling such obvious nonsense.

So what have to do the more than a billion Catholics now from your point of view? Nothing - so you can keep your feeling of absolute superiority to know what's wrong? But what's not wrong?

 

[zaangalewa]

WTF are you talking about? You are in the wrong thread. This is about the cult called Roman Catholic. You know.....like Heaven's Gate, Mormons, Leftists. There are many threads where you can bash Trump to dry the tears of TDS.

Donald Trump? Is this the man who lives in fear of the prime number 8647?

 

[Paradoxical#1]

So what have to do the more than a billion Catholics now from your point of view? Nothing - so you can keep your feeling of absolute superiority to know what's wrong? But what's not wrong?

Indoctrination of humans started when humans first evolved from the lower primates when humans knew they had to make their young ones fear other tribal members, wild animals, floods, earthquakes, etc. so they would survive and multiply. Fast forward to 2025 and humans still use fear to indoctrinate the sheep into their beliefs of religion, whatever that religion may be.

A billion Catholics? Yes, and even more Muslims. Does that mean Islam is "true"?

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Donald Trump? Is this the man who lives in fear of the prime number 8647?

He is the one that Comey tried his best to make him lose the 2016 election by illegally absolving Hillary of destroying evidence and setting Flynn up for protection while getting warrants to spy on Trump and ignoring Perkins Coie's attempted coup.

 

[Crepitus]

What's wrong. Atheism is not knowledge but belief.



No. That's logic. Tell me why something exists and not only nothing exists.

YOu cannot apply logic to religion. Religion evaporates like frost in the sun when exposed to it.

Atheism does not. Ergo not a religion.