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I gave you the verses. Like other things that prove the RCC is an apostate cult you ignore the obvious right before your very eyes. And you have no ability to reason logically to know truth. All Apostles had keys or they could not be the foundation of Christ’s Church.

Says the man who calls his father father as everyone else is doing in the world but knows the same time 1000% better than Jesus on his own what is his message to us - as long as this fake-message shows that Catholics are his self-defined terrible and ignorant enemies.

 
Have many times. You refuse to believe your own eyes. Psalms 82:6, John 10:34, Genesis 3:22. Why do you ignore the obvious?
I'm not seeing where any of those say all apostles were given the keys to the kingdom. Can you point out where it says that?
 
I gave you the verses. Like other things that prove the RCC is an apostate cult you ignore the obvious right before your very eyes. And you have no ability to reason logically to know truth. All Apostles had keys or they could not be the foundation of Christ’s Church.
No. You didn't.
 
Or with other words: Animals and human beings need education. Human beings much more because we are in a very special kind "weltoffen" - verbally: "open for the world". Your negative form to see the world and all human beings has perhaps to do with a wrong form of education or with a strange psychological structure. I don't know what you call "evolution" - it's one of the most misused words in the world - but it should be clear to you - whatever you understand under evolution - means we all stand on something what was before a long time ago. In the stone ages existed no nuclear fusion reactor - they called something what's similar "sun". A good word - still today.



You have not any idea what you try to speak about, isn't it? Do you suffer depressions?



Animals had been always wild. This changed when we started to "evolve" some of them and domested animales so they became tame. In an evolutionary language we call this "symbiotic relationship". But this is without any moral quality for individuals - what you can see easily in a chicken farm. Never existed so many chickens (symbiotic success) - and never they had a so miserable form of life. A shame for us. I warn you to make the mistakes of Darwinists and Nazis to think "biology" or "genetics" is a key for human societies. Biology and genetcis is important - very important for example in medicine - but human beings are more than their biology.



Eh?



You use fear and contempt for humanity in your "arguments" - which more sound like an expression of deep sense of grievance. I also often use drastic words - but only on reason to warn if I see something going wrong. In your case drastic words are superflous. You suffer. You are not able to use the abilities god gave you, "sheep". For example you are not able to think about that atheism "only" could be a belief. You are not able to seperate what's your belief and what's your knowledge.

[Quote[A billion Catholics? Yes,

Not really - more than 1½ billion. But this is not really important. All human beings are able to be wrong in a special term - and only one human being is able to be right in a special term - if god enlightens only this one human being. We say "the wind blows where the wind wants to blow" (wind = holy spirit). We have to listen to everyone - it could be Jesus and god personally could speak to us out of this person. Who knows?



More than 50% of all human beings are monotheists.



For me Islamists are not Muslims and Jesus is also a prophet in the Islam. And the biggest problem between Muslims and Catholics is not god - it's irrationality vs rationality. Irrationality has a better chance to win. So not only the number of Muslims grows - also the number of atheists grows - who are for example not able to understand that atheism is only a belief. But we Christians have a good influence on them: They work together against us. And if Muslims and Atheists are able to work together everyone should be able to work together. The only what you have to learn is to work together for others and not against others.

And to you I suggest: Go to a doctor and ask him whether it could be you have depressions. Depressions are a very serios - often only bodily - sickness. Start to fight the good fight. The fight for all life. Also the fight for your own life. That's what our stone age ancestors "indoctrinated" into us.



The moon stood brightly high above the path,
as the woman from the village made her way home.
The number of miles ahead of her made her heart grow cold,
and so she passed the enchanted forest.
If I follow the path that fades into the light there,
then I'll be in the village before the morning dawns.
Oh, they are only stories, like the stones so old!?
she said and stepped into the enchanted forest.

Refrain: (all 2 verses)
Fog and light, and voices in the wind,
that lure and call and are strange.
Beware, wanderer, give way, take heed!
And do not enter the forest of magic by night.

After barely a hundred paces, the forest closed in around her.
Where had she come from? Where was she going? She soon lost her way.
Seen from the path, the way seemed so clear!
How was it that everything was so strange now?
She couldn't find her way back and she followed the light ahead in the trees,
she didn't reach it.
With every step she took, it receded, as it were,
and led her away, bit by bit through the forest.

Refrain

Then she heard music from the trees, the heights,
she looked fixedly at the light, she didn't want to see anything.
The sound was so strange that her heart almost broke,
but she would be lost if she gave in to the lure.
Someone called her name, a voice so beautiful,
asked her to come to him, she could hardly resist.
Come, I will bring you love and beauty and happiness!
No, because if I follow you, I will never return!

Refrain

A figure emerged from the mists and shadows, moon white and beautiful,
the dark eyes ancient.
'Come, human woman, lie with me this night,
I'll show you magic and dreams until the morning awakens.
A kiss from your lips will cost me a year,
the night in your arms whitens my hair.
Fairy, troll and elf only play their games with us;
let me go, good spirit, because I want to live!

Refrain

She no longer resists as he draws her closer,
already forgotten, lost, lost under his spell.
As his lips approach, the world is already far from her;
the beautiful death is a spell, far from space and time.
The moon was now low over the forest,
the day was near, the dewy air icy cold.
Deep in fairy arms the human woman lay still;
the night receded and the sky turned grey...

Refrain

So the first light fell on the foliage from the heights,
where the years pass quickly for the woman from the village.
In the ray the stranger becomes smoke and light,
leaving her pale and weak, but not killing her.
The day star now stood bright above the path,
as the woman from the village stepped out of the forest.
Her hair as white as snow, her skin as pale as marble,
from the magic of the forest that time had robbed her of.

Fog and light, and voices in the wind,
that lure and call and are strange.
Beware, wanderer, give way, take heed!
And do not enter the forest of magic by night.

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You are wrong in just about everything you posted. Atheism is not a belief. It's like telling someone who has seen no evidence of the existence of Bigfoot or aliens from another universe has a belief. It is a way for believers to imagine that their beliefs are sane and rational because nonbelievers have a belief too.

Evolution is how life is able to exist by using survival skills that have thus far allowed their species to survive the elements whereas other life forms have not. A polar bear grows thick white fur to survive the frigid cold and snow. An eagle gains superior eyesight through centuries of its predecessors without such eyesight dying off leaving only those with superior eyesight as part of their species.

Humans were taught fear of predators. Those who didn't listen and adopt that fear died. Those who accepted the fear of the elders lived on. Religion ingeniously adopted fear as a recruitment tool. Now, fear is used by Democrat politicians and media to control us.
 
You are wrong in just about everything you posted.

This I doubt.

Atheism is not a belief.

It is a belief - nothing else. But I will not discuss this with you any longer because it makes not any sense to do so.

It's like telling someone who has seen no evidence of the existence of Bigfoot or aliens from another universe has a belief.

Do you see that this sentence has absolutelly nothing to do with your first sentence? You said nothing else than "You are wrong I am right" in this two sentences.

It is a way for believers to imagine that their beliefs are sane and rational because nonbelievers have a belief too.

It exist no nonbelievers - that's your problem. Example: If a physicist would not believe in mathematics (a pure spiritual concept (objective) - or only an idea of human beings (subjective)) he had not a lot to say about physics. Mathematics is the spirituality of physics. In this case with very concrete physical results. Machines for example. And nothing in this context follows an biologically evolutionary concept as far as I can see. To do physics needs a lot of intuition.

Evolution is how life is able to exist by using survival skills that have thus far allowed their species to survive the elements whereas other life forms have not.

Eh?

A polar bear grows thick white fur to survive the frigid cold and snow.

No. This sentence makes evolutionary not any sense. But this discussion would be sophisticated now and so it makes not a big sense to discuss this with you. It would need a long time to clear the basics. The evolution is a natural law like gravity. The evolution is doing nothing and the gravity is doing nothing for you or anyone else to survive. You survive because your matter has mass. So this fits to the gravity on planet earth.

An eagle gains superior eyesight through centuries of its predecessors without such eyesight dying off leaving only those with superior eyesight as part of their species.

This could be correct now - if eyesight would be the only factor. The problem in your "theory" here: A genetic modification makes leaps and bounds. Suddenly something is completely different. How do you explain a gradual improvement in visual performance? I guess I would need a long time to find out what really had happened in the evolution of eagles - step by step.

Humans were taught fear of predators.

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Those who didn't listen and adopt that fear died.

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Those who accepted the fear of the elders lived on.

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Religion ingeniously adopted fear as a recruitment tool.

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Now, fear is used by Democrat politicians

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and media to control us.

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Admit it - you are an alien! And someone told you "fear Democrat politicians and media".
 
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This I doubt.



It is a belief - nothing else. But I will not discuss this with you any longer becaue it makes not any sense to do so.



Do you see that this sentence has absolutelly nothing to do with your first sentence? You said nothing else than "You are wrong I am right" in this two sentences.



It exist no nonbelievers - that's your problem. Example: If a physicist would not believe in mathematics (a pure spiritual concept (objective) - or only an idea of human beings (subjective)) he had not a lot to say about physics. Mathematics is the spirituality of physics. In this case with very concrete physical results. Machines for example. And nohting in this context follows an evolutionary concept as far as I can see. To do physics needs a lot of intuition.



Eh?



No. This sentence makes evolutionary not any sense. But this discussion would be sophisticated now and so it makes not a big sense to discuss this with you. It would need a long time to clear the basics. The evolution is a natural law like gravity. The evolution is doing nothing and the gravity is doing nothing for you or anyone else to survive. You survive because your matter has mass. So this fits to the gravity on planet earth.



This could be correct now - if eyesight would be the only factor. The problem in your "theory" here: A genetic modification makes leaps and bounds. Suddenly something is completely different. How do you explain a gradual improvement in visual performance? I guess I would need a long time to find out what really had happened in the evolution of eagles - step by step.



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Admit it - you are an alien! And someone told you "fear Democrat politicians".
It is apparent that you have no understanding of humanity and are mired in religious nonsense. Even a CNN Director admitted that FEAR SELLS and that they used it to get rid of Trump. That you dismiss the emotion of fear is an indoctrination tactic used by media, politicians, and Christianity tells me you are failing and flailing on too many issues to have a rational discussion with. That you don't understand that the genes that allow a species to survive are favored over those that don't and therefore the babies who have those superior genes will survive while their forefathers perished for lack of food, shelter, and qualities that allow them to survive such as long white fur and thick skin in frigid climates is too much for me to deal with.
 
Why can US-Americans not let be this totally and absolutelly stupid discussion "creation vs evolution"? This discussion is as senseless as the discussion "Peter's Cathedral vs red socks". Creation and evolution are totally different things. Hint: Evolution is created. And if someone really likes to think about: How comes it that a created structure without teleologie ("plan") makes not only so many different life forms on planet Earth - why makes it life at all? Evolution has no intention! A hammer has no intention! It is free. But it's also only a tool, a natural law. When god throws a hammer and everything starts to bloom then the miracle of life will not be more little the more we know about the hammer and how it flies.


God didn't create pond scum and let it take over from there. He created two humans whose eyes, for example, didn't have to evolve for thousands of years before they were able to see their Father. Adam was fully functional.
Did God have to wait until evolution created them before He walked with them in the Garden that pond water created for them?
Evolution is diametrically the opposite of creation. The Catholic Church has indeed embraced evolution, and calls creation a nice story, an allegory.
 
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Says the man who calls his father father as everyone else is doing in the world but knows the same time 1000% better than Jesus on his own what is his message to us - as long as this fake-message shows that Catholics are his self-defined terrible and ignorant enemies.


You can keep trying to equate my earthly father with your Pope and priests, but it won’t work. You look panicky and childish to others. Your Church has attempted to put your Pope above Father in Heaven. Apostasy.
 
I'm not seeing where any of those say all apostles were given the keys to the kingdom. Can you point out where it says that?
Of course you can’t. You’re not sticking with the posts. You’re panicking and losing focus. I’ve got you on the run and panties all in a twist.
 
It is apparent that you have no understanding of humanity

I'll rip your head off if you say something like that again.

and are mired in religious nonsense. Even a CNN Director

Waht is "CNN"?

admitted that FEAR SELLS

Aha. So you have a ghost train. That's why you have so much experience in making others afraid of the Catholic Church. While we're on the subject: If you should see the almost headless Nick - Many greetings from me. I'm practically a real fan of his.

and that they used it to get rid of Trump.

Donald Trump seems to be the atheistic evolutionary completion of your stupid propaganda, which seems to be getting closer and closer to the stupid propaganda of the Nazis.

That you dismiss the emotion of fear is an indoctrination tactic used by media, politicians, and Christianity tells me you are failing and flailing on too many issues to have a rational discussion with. That you don't understand that the genes that allow a species to survive are favored over those that don't and therefore the babies who have those superior genes will survive while their forefathers perished for lack of food, shelter, and qualities that allow them to survive such as long white fur and thick skin in frigid climates is too much for me to deal with.

I will not discuss with you about your atheistic social Darwinism which has absolutelly nothing to do with with the real scientific theory of evolution.
 
God didn't create pond scum and let it take over from there. He created two humans whose eyes, for example, didn't have to evolve for thousands of years before they were able to see their Father. Adam was fully functional.

I was fully functionable since 13.8 billion years. And since I am born I am also functioning. Nevertheless I am also a product of the evolution. But you can construct a time machine and travel back a million years and change something - for example you could kill an homo erectus - and then I never will be born - and so I am not here.

Did God have to wait until evolution created them before He walked with them in the Garden that pond water created for them?
Evolution is diametrically the opposite of creation.

Totally bullshit what you say here. The paradise was a garden. The garden of god. This is a baby-lonian picture of the time when this story was born. This story tells us something what we should know and what we should think about. And this story not tells us anyone has to be an idiot. Example: Allthough Adam and Eve not had been the first human beings - the children of them married other human beings - the evolutionary idea that Adam and Eve are the ancestors of all human beings is also included (Two living structures always have a common ancestor). I do not doubt that all this stories are inspired from god - but in a way that the people who lived in this baby-lonian age are also had been able to understand the essentials. Today I trust more in the interpretation of naive children who hear the stories the first time in this context than I trust in the interpretations of adults in this context.

The Catholic Church has indeed embraced evolution, and calls creation a nice story, an allegory.

First of all this "nice story" is very best world literature and second: this stories make a very big sense. God tells us something with this stories. And third: About 70,000 years ago the whole human race - as intelligent people as we are - had less than 1000 individuums and was on the way to die out. That's why our genetic bandwidth is so unbelievable small. I'm not really sure what's story and what's his-tory in this context. But I find your behavior pathetic - whatever the real reasons for god had been to do it his way - he did do it his way. And I am fine with however he did do it. In god I trust. God is allknowing and not you, not I nor anyone else is more allknowing.


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Am Anfang schuf Gott Himmel und Erde. Und die Erde war wüst und leer, und es war finster auf der Tiefe; und der Geist Gottes schwebte auf dem Wasser. Und Gott sprach: Es werde Licht! Und es ward Licht. Und Gott sah, dass das Licht gut war. Da schied Gott das Licht von der Finsternis und nannte das Licht Tag und die Finsternis Nacht.

(= In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was upon the face of the waters. And God said: Let there be light! And there was light. And God saw that the light was good. Then God separated the light from the darkness and called the light Day and the darkness Night.)

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Of course you can’t. You’re not sticking with the posts. You’re panicking and losing focus. I’ve got you on the run and panties all in a twist.
Actually, I'm just reading what was written. And apparently, you can't show me where it was written that all apostles were given the keys to the kingdom.
 
You can’t see with your eyes or hear with your ears. Some kind of bias keeps you from understanding. The words and interpretations of mine are truth.
But I can quite easily see with my eyes that what you claim was written was never written. It's you who has the bias because you can't admit what you claim was written was never written.
 
You can keep trying to equate my earthly father with your Pope and priests, but it won’t work.

You said no one should call the own father father because god said only to call god father. But you do so. You call your father father as anyone else in the world also is doing. So could it be something could be wrong with your interpretation?

You look panicky and childish to others.

I am a Catholic. And I do not even look panicky to Catholics ... "childish" is another theme.

Your Church has attempted to put your Pope above Father in Heaven. Apostasy.

Okay. Help yourselve. Don't become a catholic. Keep to be a hypocrite and we will forgive you. Or better not to forgive you? I guess we will think about - or not. In 100, 200 or 1000 years I will tell you what we decided to do. I guess we will forgvie you. Or not? .. hmhmhmhmhm ... difficult question ... perhaps I should ask our Holy Father what he thinks about to be called Holy Father?

By the way: Last time we asked him he changed the Holy Sea into the Holy See - because he got wet feet in the Holy Sea.
 
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I'll rip your head off if you say something like that again.



Waht is "CNN"?



Aha. So you have a ghost train. That's why you have so much experience in making others afraid of the Catholic Church. While we're on the subject: If you should see the almost headless Nick - Many greetings from me. I'm practically a real fan of his.



Donald Trump seems to be the atheistic evolutionary completion of your stupid propaganda, which seems to be getting closer and closer to the stupid propaganda of the Nazis.



I will not discuss with you about your atheistic social Darwinism which has absolutelly nothing to do with with the real scientific theory of evolution.
You are one of very few who are far beyond my ability to help.
 
God didn't create pond scum and let it take over from there. He created two humans whose eyes, for example, didn't have to evolve for thousands of years before they were able to see their Father. Adam was fully functional.
Did God have to wait until evolution created them before He walked with them in the Garden that pond water created for them?
Evolution is diametrically the opposite of creation. The Catholic Church has indeed embraced evolution, and calls creation a nice story, an allegory.
The Catholic Church only changes when the evidence against their bible is overwhelming to the extent that they start losing paying customers.
 
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