What is it about Socialism that makes you want it here in the United States?

[beagle9]

Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?

The fact my tax dollars would go to things I can use like healthcare,college,paid maternity leave etc. This is why I have started pushing my kids to consider college in Europe so eventually they stay there and bring me and my wife over there. The elderly and disabled and workers in general are treated like shit in America. America is great for 2 kinds of people. The rich who get richer and the 3rd world trash who live off the welfare.

Can't save or manage those things for yourself eh ??? The merit based system is what has made this nation strong and independent over the years. In fact Europe is struggling greatly in many areas, and actually depends on American strength to assist it in many different ways. Remember world war two ??

Yes because SO many people can afford 4-10k for a simple visit to the emergency room. No people can't save up for that dolt. Not when our wages are suppressed by the CEO's on the right who want invaders for the lower wages and leftists who want invaders simply because they hate white people and want absolute power.

Average American worker here, and doing quite well in life if I might say so myself. Once the medical bills begin, no one will be able to actually afford it, not even the upper class workforces. Funny how with all the open channels that help people find the solutions to these upheavals, and the government programs that kick in once all other avenues have been exhausted, somehow see's these things getting lost in these political discussions where the issues are being manipulated more for votes than actually solving them.

Right. Even people with $5 million dollars sav3d don’t want to pay $10,000 a month to take care of a love one with Alzheimer’s for example

$10,000 a month to just throw your family member into a home to forget about them, and this taken out of $5 million dollars saved. ??? Interesting.

 

[WheelieAddict]

Far right idiots put on the scare that if the government controls or regulates one little thing.............OMG COMMIE!$%$#$

The truth: Capitalism is here to stay as the best system, the argument is how regulated it should be/how much of a role government should play. Totally unregulated capitalism will fail, there is no perfect system.

 

[GLASNOST]

But what if you paid all those tax dollars in, and didnt use them, wouldn't that be a waste of money?

How much do you pay in insurance? Are those companies willing to 'pay out' when you need it or do they try to find a way to weasel out by saying that your particular case isn't covered? Do you get that money back if you don't use its services? Do you think those with low income ought to pay those fees or not be insured at all and have no medical access? So ... what is your question again?

Also the rich get richer because they dont spend every fucking dime on shit they dont need, or afford,

That is untrue and I think you know it. The absolute opposite is the fact of the matter.

most poverty stricken people dont even want to get a job, just suck off welfare and pan handle on the street corners.

You think then that people should work for a minimum wage that is too little to provide for a family?

I used to be a minimum wage puke, but got skills that enabled me to barter for higher paying wages.

Good for you. Wouldn't it be great if everyone had that opportunity and the basic education/intelligence to do the same?

Idiots have no intelligence so take what they can get.

Is it your opinion that the less educated/intelligent should be punished?

The bottom line is that the U.S. does not invest in the well-being of all of its citizens. The government is stingy, the wealthy do not want to lend a hand, there are not enough jobs to go around, the minimum wage is a joke, and some jobs legally pay less than the minimum wage.

 

[GLASNOST]

Ask any former military. He'll beat you with a flag

I am former military.

Russian or Chinese?

United States Army. (RA) 1965 - 1968. Central Highlands, Vietnam 1966-67. What about you - Cub scouts?

I lived during it, had ex that served in it. You must be one of Kerry’s ilk.

You are confused and out of your depths on the subject. You certainly do not know very much about it.

 

[depotoo]

But what if you paid all those tax dollars in, and didnt use them, wouldn't that be a waste of money?

How much do you pay in insurance? Are those companies willing to 'pay out' when you need it or do they try to find a way to weasel out by saying that your particular case isn't covered? Do you get that money back if you don't use its services? Do you think those with low income ought to pay those fees or not be insured at all and have no medical access? So ... what is your question again?

Also the rich get richer because they dont spend every fucking dime on shit they dont need, or afford,

That is untrue and I think you know it. The absolute opposite is the fact of the matter.

most poverty stricken people dont even want to get a job, just suck off welfare and pan handle on the street corners.

You think then that people should work for a minimum wage that is too little to provide for a family?

I used to be a minimum wage puke, but got skills that enabled me to barter for higher paying wages.

Good for you. Wouldn't it be great if everyone had that opportunity and the basic education/intelligence to do the same?

Idiots have no intelligence so take what they can get.

Is it your opinion that the less educated/intelligent should be punished?

The bottom line is that the U.S. does not invest in the well-being of all of its citizens. The government is stingy, the wealthy do not want to lend a hand, there are not enough jobs to go around, the minimum wage is a joke, and some jobs legally pay less than the minimum wage.

The government is stingy?

More than half the budget is spent on welfare

 

[GLASNOST]

But what if you paid all those tax dollars in, and didnt use them, wouldn't that be a waste of money?

How much do you pay in insurance? Are those companies willing to 'pay out' when you need it or do they try to find a way to weasel out by saying that your particular case isn't covered? Do you get that money back if you don't use its services? Do you think those with low income ought to pay those fees or not be insured at all and have no medical access? So ... what is your question again?

Also the rich get richer because they dont spend every fucking dime on shit they dont need, or afford,

That is untrue and I think you know it. The absolute opposite is the fact of the matter.

most poverty stricken people dont even want to get a job, just suck off welfare and pan handle on the street corners.

You think then that people should work for a minimum wage that is too little to provide for a family?

I used to be a minimum wage puke, but got skills that enabled me to barter for higher paying wages.

Good for you. Wouldn't it be great if everyone had that opportunity and the basic education/intelligence to do the same?

Idiots have no intelligence so take what they can get.

Is it your opinion that the less educated/intelligent should be punished?

The bottom line is that the U.S. does not invest in the well-being of all of its citizens. The government is stingy, the wealthy do not want to lend a hand, there are not enough jobs to go around, the minimum wage is a joke, and some jobs legally pay less than the minimum wage.

The government is stingy? View attachment 270027

More than half the budget is spent on welfare

View attachment 270028

I criticize the lack of care provided by the American government and your rebuff is to submit a "pie graph"? What does any percentage of "little" do for a population of 330 million people? You might be using unsophisticated mathematics in order to fool someone but I reckon it is you who's been fooled.

 

[progressive hunter]

But what if you paid all those tax dollars in, and didnt use them, wouldn't that be a waste of money?

How much do you pay in insurance? Are those companies willing to 'pay out' when you need it or do they try to find a way to weasel out by saying that your particular case isn't covered? Do you get that money back if you don't use its services? Do you think those with low income ought to pay those fees or not be insured at all and have no medical access? So ... what is your question again?

Also the rich get richer because they dont spend every fucking dime on shit they dont need, or afford,

That is untrue and I think you know it. The absolute opposite is the fact of the matter.

most poverty stricken people dont even want to get a job, just suck off welfare and pan handle on the street corners.

You think then that people should work for a minimum wage that is too little to provide for a family?

I used to be a minimum wage puke, but got skills that enabled me to barter for higher paying wages.

Good for you. Wouldn't it be great if everyone had that opportunity and the basic education/intelligence to do the same?

Idiots have no intelligence so take what they can get.

Is it your opinion that the less educated/intelligent should be punished?

The bottom line is that the U.S. does not invest in the well-being of all of its citizens. The government is stingy, the wealthy do not want to lend a hand, there are not enough jobs to go around, the minimum wage is a joke, and some jobs legally pay less than the minimum wage.

The government is stingy? View attachment 270027

More than half the budget is spent on welfare

View attachment 270028

I criticize the lack of care provided by the American government and your rebuff is to submit a "pie graph"? What does any percentage of "little" do for a population of 330 million people? You might be using unsophisticated mathematics in order to fool someone but I reckon it is you who's been fooled.

if you were an american you would know its not the job of the government to care for the people,, in other words its against our laws

 

[GLASNOST]

But what if you paid all those tax dollars in, and didnt use them, wouldn't that be a waste of money?

How much do you pay in insurance? Are those companies willing to 'pay out' when you need it or do they try to find a way to weasel out by saying that your particular case isn't covered? Do you get that money back if you don't use its services? Do you think those with low income ought to pay those fees or not be insured at all and have no medical access? So ... what is your question again?

Also the rich get richer because they dont spend every fucking dime on shit they dont need, or afford,

That is untrue and I think you know it. The absolute opposite is the fact of the matter.

most poverty stricken people dont even want to get a job, just suck off welfare and pan handle on the street corners.

You think then that people should work for a minimum wage that is too little to provide for a family?

I used to be a minimum wage puke, but got skills that enabled me to barter for higher paying wages.

Good for you. Wouldn't it be great if everyone had that opportunity and the basic education/intelligence to do the same?

Idiots have no intelligence so take what they can get.

Is it your opinion that the less educated/intelligent should be punished?

The bottom line is that the U.S. does not invest in the well-being of all of its citizens. The government is stingy, the wealthy do not want to lend a hand, there are not enough jobs to go around, the minimum wage is a joke, and some jobs legally pay less than the minimum wage.

The government is stingy? View attachment 270027

More than half the budget is spent on welfare

View attachment 270028

I criticize the lack of care provided by the American government and your rebuff is to submit a "pie graph"? What does any percentage of "little" do for a population of 330 million people? You might be using unsophisticated mathematics in order to fool someone but I reckon it is you who's been fooled.

if you were an american you would know its not the job of the government to care for the people,, in other words its against our laws

I think that you should look again, and if you are still right then God help you because you will always fail. But that could explain why the U.S. never amounted to anything.

 

[depotoo]

But what if you paid all those tax dollars in, and didnt use them, wouldn't that be a waste of money?

How much do you pay in insurance? Are those companies willing to 'pay out' when you need it or do they try to find a way to weasel out by saying that your particular case isn't covered? Do you get that money back if you don't use its services? Do you think those with low income ought to pay those fees or not be insured at all and have no medical access? So ... what is your question again?

Also the rich get richer because they dont spend every fucking dime on shit they dont need, or afford,

That is untrue and I think you know it. The absolute opposite is the fact of the matter.

most poverty stricken people dont even want to get a job, just suck off welfare and pan handle on the street corners.

You think then that people should work for a minimum wage that is too little to provide for a family?

I used to be a minimum wage puke, but got skills that enabled me to barter for higher paying wages.

Good for you. Wouldn't it be great if everyone had that opportunity and the basic education/intelligence to do the same?

Idiots have no intelligence so take what they can get.

Is it your opinion that the less educated/intelligent should be punished?

The bottom line is that the U.S. does not invest in the well-being of all of its citizens. The government is stingy, the wealthy do not want to lend a hand, there are not enough jobs to go around, the minimum wage is a joke, and some jobs legally pay less than the minimum wage.

The government is stingy? View attachment 270027

More than half the budget is spent on welfare

View attachment 270028

I criticize the lack of care provided by the American government and your rebuff is to submit a "pie graph"? What does any percentage of "little" do for a population of 330 million people? You might be using unsophisticated mathematics in order to fool someone but I reckon it is you who's been fooled.

You aren’t nearly as clever as you think you are. And the US is not based on your kind of values. Never has been. Never will be.

 

[progressive hunter]

But what if you paid all those tax dollars in, and didnt use them, wouldn't that be a waste of money?

How much do you pay in insurance? Are those companies willing to 'pay out' when you need it or do they try to find a way to weasel out by saying that your particular case isn't covered? Do you get that money back if you don't use its services? Do you think those with low income ought to pay those fees or not be insured at all and have no medical access? So ... what is your question again?

Also the rich get richer because they dont spend every fucking dime on shit they dont need, or afford,

That is untrue and I think you know it. The absolute opposite is the fact of the matter.

most poverty stricken people dont even want to get a job, just suck off welfare and pan handle on the street corners.

You think then that people should work for a minimum wage that is too little to provide for a family?

I used to be a minimum wage puke, but got skills that enabled me to barter for higher paying wages.

Good for you. Wouldn't it be great if everyone had that opportunity and the basic education/intelligence to do the same?

Idiots have no intelligence so take what they can get.

Is it your opinion that the less educated/intelligent should be punished?

The bottom line is that the U.S. does not invest in the well-being of all of its citizens. The government is stingy, the wealthy do not want to lend a hand, there are not enough jobs to go around, the minimum wage is a joke, and some jobs legally pay less than the minimum wage.

The government is stingy? View attachment 270027

More than half the budget is spent on welfare

View attachment 270028

I criticize the lack of care provided by the American government and your rebuff is to submit a "pie graph"? What does any percentage of "little" do for a population of 330 million people? You might be using unsophisticated mathematics in order to fool someone but I reckon it is you who's been fooled.

if you were an american you would know its not the job of the government to care for the people,, in other words its against our laws

I think that you should look again, and if you are still right then God help you because you will always fail. But that could explain why the U.S. never amounted to anything.

the US under the constitution has amounted to the freest most prosperous country the world has ever seen,,and countries like yours depend on us for protection,,,

 

[GLASNOST]

You aren’t nearly as clever as you think you are.

But I am vastly more clever than you think I am.

And the US is not based on your kind of values. Never has been. Never will be.

That is why the U.S. is up the creek without a paddle. You are using a failing formula and rather than shitcan it and try another one you've decided to double down on the useless one you have using all along - the one that left you without a paddle on the creek.

 

[GLASNOST]

How much do you pay in insurance? Are those companies willing to 'pay out' when you need it or do they try to find a way to weasel out by saying that your particular case isn't covered? Do you get that money back if you don't use its services? Do you think those with low income ought to pay those fees or not be insured at all and have no medical access? So ... what is your question again?
That is untrue and I think you know it. The absolute opposite is the fact of the matter.
You think then that people should work for a minimum wage that is too little to provide for a family?
Good for you. Wouldn't it be great if everyone had that opportunity and the basic education/intelligence to do the same?
Is it your opinion that the less educated/intelligent should be punished?

The bottom line is that the U.S. does not invest in the well-being of all of its citizens. The government is stingy, the wealthy do not want to lend a hand, there are not enough jobs to go around, the minimum wage is a joke, and some jobs legally pay less than the minimum wage.

The government is stingy? View attachment 270027

More than half the budget is spent on welfare

View attachment 270028

I criticize the lack of care provided by the American government and your rebuff is to submit a "pie graph"? What does any percentage of "little" do for a population of 330 million people? You might be using unsophisticated mathematics in order to fool someone but I reckon it is you who's been fooled.

if you were an american you would know its not the job of the government to care for the people,, in other words its against our laws

I think that you should look again, and if you are still right then God help you because you will always fail. But that could explain why the U.S. never amounted to anything.

the US under the constitution has amounted to the freest most prosperous country the world has ever seen,,and countries like yours depend on us for protection,,,

Two outrageously ridiculous statements in one sentence must be a record. The American people are not prosperous and the only protection my country needs is FROM the U.S.

But just for a good laugh .... tell me what it is you think the U.S. is protecting my country from? WMD's from Irak? Communists from Vietnam? Russian pipelines? Osama bin Laden? Fidel Castro? Saddam Hussein? Bashar al-Assad? Hugo Chavez? Nicolas Maduro? The Boy Scouts from North Korea?

 

[depotoo]

The government is stingy? View attachment 270027

More than half the budget is spent on welfare

View attachment 270028

I criticize the lack of care provided by the American government and your rebuff is to submit a "pie graph"? What does any percentage of "little" do for a population of 330 million people? You might be using unsophisticated mathematics in order to fool someone but I reckon it is you who's been fooled.

if you were an american you would know its not the job of the government to care for the people,, in other words its against our laws

I think that you should look again, and if you are still right then God help you because you will always fail. But that could explain why the U.S. never amounted to anything.

the US under the constitution has amounted to the freest most prosperous country the world has ever seen,,and countries like yours depend on us for protection,,,

Two outrageously ridiculous statements in one sentence must be a record. The American people are not prosperous and the only protection my country needs is FROM the U.S.

But just for a good laugh .... tell me what it is you think the U.S. is protecting my country from? WMD's from Irak? Communists from Vietnam? Russian pipelines? Osama bin Laden? Fidel Castro? Saddam Hussein? Bashar al-Assad? Hugo Chavez? Nicolas Maduro? The Boy Scouts from North Korea?

Lol, the truth comes out... and yes, I read your post properly...

 

[progressive hunter]

The government is stingy? View attachment 270027

More than half the budget is spent on welfare

View attachment 270028

I criticize the lack of care provided by the American government and your rebuff is to submit a "pie graph"? What does any percentage of "little" do for a population of 330 million people? You might be using unsophisticated mathematics in order to fool someone but I reckon it is you who's been fooled.

if you were an american you would know its not the job of the government to care for the people,, in other words its against our laws

I think that you should look again, and if you are still right then God help you because you will always fail. But that could explain why the U.S. never amounted to anything.

the US under the constitution has amounted to the freest most prosperous country the world has ever seen,,and countries like yours depend on us for protection,,,

Two outrageously ridiculous statements in one sentence must be a record. The American people are not prosperous and the only protection my country needs is FROM the U.S.

But just for a good laugh .... tell me what it is you think the U.S. is protecting my country from? WMD's from Irak? Communists from Vietnam? Russian pipelines? Osama bin Laden? Fidel Castro? Saddam Hussein? Bashar al-Assad? Hugo Chavez? Nicolas Maduro? The Boy Scouts from North Korea?

how would I know why you want our protection,,,it might be because youre a bunch of pansies,,,

 

[depotoo]

I criticize the lack of care provided by the American government and your rebuff is to submit a "pie graph"? What does any percentage of "little" do for a population of 330 million people? You might be using unsophisticated mathematics in order to fool someone but I reckon it is you who's been fooled.

if you were an american you would know its not the job of the government to care for the people,, in other words its against our laws

I think that you should look again, and if you are still right then God help you because you will always fail. But that could explain why the U.S. never amounted to anything.

the US under the constitution has amounted to the freest most prosperous country the world has ever seen,,and countries like yours depend on us for protection,,,

Two outrageously ridiculous statements in one sentence must be a record. The American people are not prosperous and the only protection my country needs is FROM the U.S.

But just for a good laugh .... tell me what it is you think the U.S. is protecting my country from? WMD's from Irak? Communists from Vietnam? Russian pipelines? Osama bin Laden? Fidel Castro? Saddam Hussein? Bashar al-Assad? Hugo Chavez? Nicolas Maduro? The Boy Scouts from North Korea?

how would I know why you want our protection,,,it might be because youre a bunch of pansies,,,

He is a troll

 

[GLASNOST]

I criticize the lack of care provided by the American government and your rebuff is to submit a "pie graph"? What does any percentage of "little" do for a population of 330 million people? You might be using unsophisticated mathematics in order to fool someone but I reckon it is you who's been fooled.

if you were an american you would know its not the job of the government to care for the people,, in other words its against our laws

I think that you should look again, and if you are still right then God help you because you will always fail. But that could explain why the U.S. never amounted to anything.

the US under the constitution has amounted to the freest most prosperous country the world has ever seen,,and countries like yours depend on us for protection,,,

Two outrageously ridiculous statements in one sentence must be a record. The American people are not prosperous and the only protection my country needs is FROM the U.S.

But just for a good laugh .... tell me what it is you think the U.S. is protecting my country from? WMD's from Irak? Communists from Vietnam? Russian pipelines? Osama bin Laden? Fidel Castro? Saddam Hussein? Bashar al-Assad? Hugo Chavez? Nicolas Maduro? The Boy Scouts from North Korea?

how would I know why you want our protection,,,it might be because youre a bunch of pansies,,,

Who told you we want your protection? Did the Taliban tell you that? The Somalis? Al Qaida? ISIS? al-Shabaab? Hizbollah? No, of course not. It was the CIA ... the ones who gave you the proof of WMA's in Irak.

 

[GLASNOST]

I criticize the lack of care provided by the American government and your rebuff is to submit a "pie graph"? What does any percentage of "little" do for a population of 330 million people? You might be using unsophisticated mathematics in order to fool someone but I reckon it is you who's been fooled.

if you were an american you would know its not the job of the government to care for the people,, in other words its against our laws

I think that you should look again, and if you are still right then God help you because you will always fail. But that could explain why the U.S. never amounted to anything.

the US under the constitution has amounted to the freest most prosperous country the world has ever seen,,and countries like yours depend on us for protection,,,

Two outrageously ridiculous statements in one sentence must be a record. The American people are not prosperous and the only protection my country needs is FROM the U.S.

But just for a good laugh .... tell me what it is you think the U.S. is protecting my country from? WMD's from Irak? Communists from Vietnam? Russian pipelines? Osama bin Laden? Fidel Castro? Saddam Hussein? Bashar al-Assad? Hugo Chavez? Nicolas Maduro? The Boy Scouts from North Korea?

Lol, the truth comes out... and yes, I read your post properly...

And the truth is ...... ?

 

[GLASNOST]

if you were an american you would know its not the job of the government to care for the people,, in other words its against our laws

I think that you should look again, and if you are still right then God help you because you will always fail. But that could explain why the U.S. never amounted to anything.

the US under the constitution has amounted to the freest most prosperous country the world has ever seen,,and countries like yours depend on us for protection,,,

Two outrageously ridiculous statements in one sentence must be a record. The American people are not prosperous and the only protection my country needs is FROM the U.S.

But just for a good laugh .... tell me what it is you think the U.S. is protecting my country from? WMD's from Irak? Communists from Vietnam? Russian pipelines? Osama bin Laden? Fidel Castro? Saddam Hussein? Bashar al-Assad? Hugo Chavez? Nicolas Maduro? The Boy Scouts from North Korea?

how would I know why you want our protection,,,it might be because youre a bunch of pansies,,,

He is a troll

No, you are the troll.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

But what if you paid all those tax dollars in, and didnt use them, wouldn't that be a waste of money?

How much do you pay in insurance? Are those companies willing to 'pay out' when you need it or do they try to find a way to weasel out by saying that your particular case isn't covered? Do you get that money back if you don't use its services? Do you think those with low income ought to pay those fees or not be insured at all and have no medical access? So ... what is your question again?

Also the rich get richer because they dont spend every fucking dime on shit they dont need, or afford,

That is untrue and I think you know it. The absolute opposite is the fact of the matter.

most poverty stricken people dont even want to get a job, just suck off welfare and pan handle on the street corners.

You think then that people should work for a minimum wage that is too little to provide for a family?

I used to be a minimum wage puke, but got skills that enabled me to barter for higher paying wages.

Good for you. Wouldn't it be great if everyone had that opportunity and the basic education/intelligence to do the same?

Idiots have no intelligence so take what they can get.

Is it your opinion that the less educated/intelligent should be punished?

The bottom line is that the U.S. does not invest in the well-being of all of its citizens. The government is stingy, the wealthy do not want to lend a hand, there are not enough jobs to go around, the minimum wage is a joke, and some jobs legally pay less than the minimum wage.

andaronjim said: ↑
Also the rich get richer because they dont spend every fucking dime on shit they dont need, or afford,
That is untrue and I think you know it. The absolute opposite is the fact of the matter.

So youre telling me that the Rich get rich because they spend their way to richness? You must be a fucking idiot, like Joe "The Groper" Biden.

In our current society, the rich stay rich because: they save their hard earned money and invest it in things like CDA’s, Money Market and Trust accounts. Most wealthy people have a higher education.
Why Rich Stay Rich, and the Poor Stay Poor - Modest Money
www.modestmoney.com/why-the-rich-stay-rich-and-the-poor-stay-poor/5438

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

But what if you paid all those tax dollars in, and didnt use them, wouldn't that be a waste of money?

How much do you pay in insurance? Are those companies willing to 'pay out' when you need it or do they try to find a way to weasel out by saying that your particular case isn't covered? Do you get that money back if you don't use its services? Do you think those with low income ought to pay those fees or not be insured at all and have no medical access? So ... what is your question again?

Also the rich get richer because they dont spend every fucking dime on shit they dont need, or afford,

That is untrue and I think you know it. The absolute opposite is the fact of the matter.

most poverty stricken people dont even want to get a job, just suck off welfare and pan handle on the street corners.

You think then that people should work for a minimum wage that is too little to provide for a family?

I used to be a minimum wage puke, but got skills that enabled me to barter for higher paying wages.

Good for you. Wouldn't it be great if everyone had that opportunity and the basic education/intelligence to do the same?

Idiots have no intelligence so take what they can get.

Is it your opinion that the less educated/intelligent should be punished?

The bottom line is that the U.S. does not invest in the well-being of all of its citizens. The government is stingy, the wealthy do not want to lend a hand, there are not enough jobs to go around, the minimum wage is a joke, and some jobs legally pay less than the minimum wage.

Yes, the less intelligent "Folks" vote for the very people who keep them poor and miserable, elections have consequences, and if you vote Democrat you deserve the misery they FORCE upon you. Suck it up buttercup, you have an IQ lower than 70, which is just a little higher than most dumbass liberals, but I repeat myself.