What is it about Socialism that makes you want it here in the United States?

What is it about Socialism that makes you want it here in the United States?

  • Free healthcare.

    Votes: 7 24.1%
  • Free college.

    Votes: 5 17.2%
  • Free housing.

    Votes: 3 10.3%
  • Dont have to work and still get paid.

    Votes: 4 13.8%
  • Can smoke dope and still get paid.

    Votes: 5 17.2%
  • Have the government to take care of me from cradle to grave.

    Votes: 4 13.8%
  • Socialism has never worked and never will work, it is failure of misery and poverty.

    Votes: 21 72.4%

  • Total voters
    29
when I said those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it,,,and you said that didnt make sense,,,
now you want us to remember history so we dont repeat it,,,

WTF???
Let me make this perfectly clear.

* Did John Adams say that? Yes. It is part of history? Yes. Is it interesting to know what he said? Maybe yes, maybe no. It's up to you. Does what he said have any bearing or does it lend any credibility to today's situation? No. So history is only interesting/important to those who think it is and whether or not it is still relevant today is another matter entirely.

* Vietnam. We were discussing facts of the history of the Vietnam War. If you ask or make a statement about Vietnam I assume you are interested. I happen to have a great deal of knowledge on the Vietnam War but if you don't want to know that's your business.

Oh, and I never said I "want us to remember history so we dont repeat it". That is a lie.
so only history you think is important should be remembered,??

sorry all of history both good and bad is important whether you think so or not,,,
Have you ever seen the word "absurd"? Do you know what it means? An example would be to claim someone said something they never said or making false conclusions on what you mistakenly think he meant. That is exactly what you are doing in your above reply. Of course, if you are intentionally making false statements about what I said that is called something else. "Lying" maybe?
... you ever heard the term dumber than a box of rocks???
I am looking at one right now.
Why Glasnost ??? You switch sides back then ??
 
Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?
The fact my tax dollars would go to things I can use like healthcare,college,paid maternity leave etc. This is why I have started pushing my kids to consider college in Europe so eventually they stay there and bring me and my wife over there. The elderly and disabled and workers in general are treated like shit in America. America is great for 2 kinds of people. The rich who get richer and the 3rd world trash who live off the welfare.
 
when I said those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it,,,and you said that didnt make sense,,,
now you want us to remember history so we dont repeat it,,,

WTF???
Let me make this perfectly clear.

* Did John Adams say that? Yes. It is part of history? Yes. Is it interesting to know what he said? Maybe yes, maybe no. It's up to you. Does what he said have any bearing or does it lend any credibility to today's situation? No. So history is only interesting/important to those who think it is and whether or not it is still relevant today is another matter entirely.

* Vietnam. We were discussing facts of the history of the Vietnam War. If you ask or make a statement about Vietnam I assume you are interested. I happen to have a great deal of knowledge on the Vietnam War but if you don't want to know that's your business.

Oh, and I never said I "want us to remember history so we dont repeat it". That is a lie.
so only history you think is important should be remembered,??

sorry all of history both good and bad is important whether you think so or not,,,
Have you ever seen the word "absurd"? Do you know what it means? An example would be to claim someone said something they never said or making false conclusions on what you mistakenly think he meant. That is exactly what you are doing in your above reply. Of course, if you are intentionally making false statements about what I said that is called something else. "Lying" maybe?
... you ever heard the term dumber than a box of rocks???
I am looking at one right now.
this is the internet so I have no idea what or who you are looking at,,,,
 
Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?
The fact my tax dollars would go to things I can use like healthcare,college,paid maternity leave etc. This is why I have started pushing my kids to consider college in Europe so eventually they stay there and bring me and my wife over there. The elderly and disabled and workers in general are treated like shit in America. America is great for 2 kinds of people. The rich who get richer and the 3rd world trash who live off the welfare.


so youre a freeloader,,, hope you get to go,,,
 
Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?
The fact my tax dollars would go to things I can use like healthcare,college,paid maternity leave etc. This is why I have started pushing my kids to consider college in Europe so eventually they stay there and bring me and my wife over there. The elderly and disabled and workers in general are treated like shit in America. America is great for 2 kinds of people. The rich who get richer and the 3rd world trash who live off the welfare.


so youre a freeloader,,, hope you get to go,,,
Oh shut up pudding cup. Heard about enough from you cuntservative morons. Go suck off another CEO he might even give you a reach around after you are done.
 
Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?
The fact my tax dollars would go to things I can use like healthcare,college,paid maternity leave etc. This is why I have started pushing my kids to consider college in Europe so eventually they stay there and bring me and my wife over there. The elderly and disabled and workers in general are treated like shit in America. America is great for 2 kinds of people. The rich who get richer and the 3rd world trash who live off the welfare.
Can't save or manage those things for yourself eh ??? The merit based system is what has made this nation strong and independent over the years. In fact Europe is struggling greatly in many areas, and actually depends on American strength to assist it in many different ways. Remember world war two ??
 
Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?
The fact my tax dollars would go to things I can use like healthcare,college,paid maternity leave etc. This is why I have started pushing my kids to consider college in Europe so eventually they stay there and bring me and my wife over there. The elderly and disabled and workers in general are treated like shit in America. America is great for 2 kinds of people. The rich who get richer and the 3rd world trash who live off the welfare.
Can't save or manage those things for yourself eh ??? The merit based system is what has made this nation strong and independent over the years. In fact Europe is struggling greatly in many areas, and actually depends on American strength to assist it in many different ways. Remember world war two ??
Yes because SO many people can afford 4-10k for a simple visit to the emergency room. No people can't save up for that dolt. Not when our wages are suppressed by the CEO's on the right who want invaders for the lower wages and leftists who want invaders simply because they hate white people and want absolute power.
 
I like the idea of actually getting something useful in return for my tax dollars.
 
Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?
The fact my tax dollars would go to things I can use like healthcare,college,paid maternity leave etc. This is why I have started pushing my kids to consider college in Europe so eventually they stay there and bring me and my wife over there. The elderly and disabled and workers in general are treated like shit in America. America is great for 2 kinds of people. The rich who get richer and the 3rd world trash who live off the welfare.


so youre a freeloader,,, hope you get to go,,,
Oh shut up pudding cup. Heard about enough from you cuntservative morons. Go suck off another CEO he might even give you a reach around after you are done.
I'm my own CEO,,,

and you want your tax money to pay your existence huh???

why not just pay it yourself and the politicians wont take a cut for themselves???

or is it you dont want to pay your own way and want other peoples tax money to pay your way through life??????
 
Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?
The fact my tax dollars would go to things I can use like healthcare,college,paid maternity leave etc. This is why I have started pushing my kids to consider college in Europe so eventually they stay there and bring me and my wife over there. The elderly and disabled and workers in general are treated like shit in America. America is great for 2 kinds of people. The rich who get richer and the 3rd world trash who live off the welfare.
Can't save or manage those things for yourself eh ??? The merit based system is what has made this nation strong and independent over the years. In fact Europe is struggling greatly in many areas, and actually depends on American strength to assist it in many different ways. Remember world war two ??
Yes because SO many people can afford 4-10k for a simple visit to the emergency room. No people can't save up for that dolt. Not when our wages are suppressed by the CEO's on the right who want invaders for the lower wages and leftists who want invaders simply because they hate white people and want absolute power.
yes they can,,,
 
Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?
The fact my tax dollars would go to things I can use like healthcare,college,paid maternity leave etc. This is why I have started pushing my kids to consider college in Europe so eventually they stay there and bring me and my wife over there. The elderly and disabled and workers in general are treated like shit in America. America is great for 2 kinds of people. The rich who get richer and the 3rd world trash who live off the welfare.
But what if you paid all those tax dollars in, and didnt use them, wouldn't that be a waste of money? Also the rich get richer because they dont spend every fucking dime on shit they dont need, or afford, most poverty stricken people dont even want to get a job, just suck off welfare and pan handle on the street corners. I used to be a minimum wage puke, but got skills that enabled me to barter for higher paying wages. Idiots have no intelligence so take what they can get.
 
Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?
The fact my tax dollars would go to things I can use like healthcare,college,paid maternity leave etc. This is why I have started pushing my kids to consider college in Europe so eventually they stay there and bring me and my wife over there. The elderly and disabled and workers in general are treated like shit in America. America is great for 2 kinds of people. The rich who get richer and the 3rd world trash who live off the welfare.
Can't save or manage those things for yourself eh ??? The merit based system is what has made this nation strong and independent over the years. In fact Europe is struggling greatly in many areas, and actually depends on American strength to assist it in many different ways. Remember world war two ??
Yes because SO many people can afford 4-10k for a simple visit to the emergency room. No people can't save up for that dolt. Not when our wages are suppressed by the CEO's on the right who want invaders for the lower wages and leftists who want invaders simply because they hate white people and want absolute power.
I remember back in the day when hospitals only need a 100 bucks or so. But with all that FREE stuff to illegals who cant be turned away from the emergency room, then someone who speaks English has to pick up the tab.
 
Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?
The fact my tax dollars would go to things I can use like healthcare,college,paid maternity leave etc. This is why I have started pushing my kids to consider college in Europe so eventually they stay there and bring me and my wife over there. The elderly and disabled and workers in general are treated like shit in America. America is great for 2 kinds of people. The rich who get richer and the 3rd world trash who live off the welfare.
Can't save or manage those things for yourself eh ??? The merit based system is what has made this nation strong and independent over the years. In fact Europe is struggling greatly in many areas, and actually depends on American strength to assist it in many different ways. Remember world war two ??
Yes because SO many people can afford 4-10k for a simple visit to the emergency room. No people can't save up for that dolt. Not when our wages are suppressed by the CEO's on the right who want invaders for the lower wages and leftists who want invaders simply because they hate white people and want absolute power.
Average American worker here, and doing quite well in life if I might say so myself. Once the medical bills begin, no one will be able to actually afford it, not even the upper class workforces. Funny how with all the open channels that help people find the solutions to these upheavals, and the government programs that kick in once all other avenues have been exhausted, somehow we see these things getting lost in these political discussions where the issues are being manipulated more for votes than actually solving them.
 
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Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?
The fact my tax dollars would go to things I can use like healthcare,college,paid maternity leave etc. This is why I have started pushing my kids to consider college in Europe so eventually they stay there and bring me and my wife over there. The elderly and disabled and workers in general are treated like shit in America. America is great for 2 kinds of people. The rich who get richer and the 3rd world trash who live off the welfare.
Can't save or manage those things for yourself eh ??? The merit based system is what has made this nation strong and independent over the years. In fact Europe is struggling greatly in many areas, and actually depends on American strength to assist it in many different ways. Remember world war two ??
Yes because SO many people can afford 4-10k for a simple visit to the emergency room. No people can't save up for that dolt. Not when our wages are suppressed by the CEO's on the right who want invaders for the lower wages and leftists who want invaders simply because they hate white people and want absolute power.
I remember back in the day when hospitals only need a 100 bucks or so. But with all that FREE stuff to illegals who cant be turned away from the emergency room, then someone who speaks English has to pick up the tab.
Sounds like the Demon-crats want to make doctors and nurses slaves before it's over with. They are already farming much of the care out to foriegn born physicians and other's coming here to work for less.
 
Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?
My life. I’d rather money not get in the way of my cure. Or anyone else’s.

I thought life was precious? Apparently not as precious as the all mighty dollar
 
Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?
The fact my tax dollars would go to things I can use like healthcare,college,paid maternity leave etc. This is why I have started pushing my kids to consider college in Europe so eventually they stay there and bring me and my wife over there. The elderly and disabled and workers in general are treated like shit in America. America is great for 2 kinds of people. The rich who get richer and the 3rd world trash who live off the welfare.
Can't save or manage those things for yourself eh ??? The merit based system is what has made this nation strong and independent over the years. In fact Europe is struggling greatly in many areas, and actually depends on American strength to assist it in many different ways. Remember world war two ??
Yes because SO many people can afford 4-10k for a simple visit to the emergency room. No people can't save up for that dolt. Not when our wages are suppressed by the CEO's on the right who want invaders for the lower wages and leftists who want invaders simply because they hate white people and want absolute power.
Average American worker here, and doing quite well in life if I might say so myself. Once the medical bills begin, no one will be able to actually afford it, not even the upper class workforces. Funny how with all the open channels that help people find the solutions to these upheavals, and the government programs that kick in once all other avenues have been exhausted, somehow see's these things getting lost in these political discussions where the issues are being manipulated more for votes than actually solving them.
Right. Even people with $5 million dollars sav3d don’t want to pay $10,000 a month to take care of a love one with Alzheimer’s for example
 
Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?
The fact my tax dollars would go to things I can use like healthcare,college,paid maternity leave etc. This is why I have started pushing my kids to consider college in Europe so eventually they stay there and bring me and my wife over there. The elderly and disabled and workers in general are treated like shit in America. America is great for 2 kinds of people. The rich who get richer and the 3rd world trash who live off the welfare.
Can't save or manage those things for yourself eh ??? The merit based system is what has made this nation strong and independent over the years. In fact Europe is struggling greatly in many areas, and actually depends on American strength to assist it in many different ways. Remember world war two ??
Yes because SO many people can afford 4-10k for a simple visit to the emergency room. No people can't save up for that dolt. Not when our wages are suppressed by the CEO's on the right who want invaders for the lower wages and leftists who want invaders simply because they hate white people and want absolute power.
Average American worker here, and doing quite well in life if I might say so myself. Once the medical bills begin, no one will be able to actually afford it, not even the upper class workforces. Funny how with all the open channels that help people find the solutions to these upheavals, and the government programs that kick in once all other avenues have been exhausted, somehow see's these things getting lost in these political discussions where the issues are being manipulated more for votes than actually solving them.
Right. Even people with $5 million dollars sav3d don’t want to pay $10,000 a month to take care of a love one with Alzheimer’s for example
Don't have to, as there are many ways to deal with these things already in America.

Done seen it many times over. There is always a way provided, but it has to be uncovered. Might not get to live carefree anymore, but ones health is more important than money. No one should be bankrupted by medical conditions, and that one needs to be worked on most of all.
 

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