What does Putin really want from Ukraine?

[Dekster]

The official BS from Putin is that his “special military operation” (ie WAR) is for
“demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine.”
In fact, it’s the opposite. Dictator Putin is the aggressor and acting like Hitler. Putin is a nationalistic fascist who craves power.

What Putin really wants is to restore Russia’s perceived international power status before the breakup of the USSR, and Step 1 is to take full control of Ukraine’s territory and eliminate Ukraine’s language & cultural heritage any way possible, including genocide!

If successful, any educated person can guess what Step 2 may be ...

Putin is making America look weak AF under Biden as it unfortunately is.

 

[AntonToo]

There are some neo-nazis in hard right nationalist Azov Battalion. Of about 1000 fighters 25% identify as neo-Nazis.

So we are talking about ~250 neo-Nazis out of 200,000 soldiers in Ukrainian army, under Jewish president, who's three great-uncles were killed during Holocaust by actual Nazis.

This is what Kremlin propaganda machine does. They take a seed of truth and build mountains of lies on it to justify commiting grotesque atrocities against other countries and their own people.

And then we have cranks and useful idiots like Carlson right here in US that eat it up and aid Kremlin's lies.

 

[gipper]

Putin is making America look weak AF under Biden as it unfortunately is.

Yeah we need a nuclear holocaust because America can’t appear weak.

 

[Colin norris]

Sadly millions of Americans are exactly like him.

The power of the corporate media to misinform Americans can’t be underestimated.

Ok. Let's assume he is wrong and you are right about the media.

Tell us what their real reason is? Be brave comrade. Stick you neck out.

 

[gipper]

Ok. Let's assume he is wrong and you are right about the media.

Tell us what their real reason is? Be brave comrade. Stick you neck out.

Lol. Asking such a question exposes yourself as a fool. You think it’s brave to discuss something all informed people know. Lol.

 

[Colin norris]

Lol. Asking such a question exposes yourself as a fool. You think it’s brave to discuss something all informed people know. Lol.

That is the answer I knew you had. Nothing.

 

[zaangalewa]

What does Putin really want from Ukraine?​

The Ukraine.

 

[zaangalewa]

2 things

De-militarization and De Nazification of Ukraine.

Empty phrases.

It's all over the news, haven't you read it?

 

[zaangalewa]

Neutrality, the same as Austria has had since 1955.

What's not a big problem for Austria because it is a part of the European Union and if this not helps at all then within an extremely short time Austria is able to become a part of the federal republic of Germany. Such chances not exist for others.

 

[zaangalewa]

How do you know what motivates Putin, what he really wants??? I can tell you, based upon your post, that you haven't the first clue what motivates Putin or Russia

Says who now? Your asshole or you yourselve?

in Ukraine, I can easily see you are stoned right out of your mind on the endless, lying western war propaganda, right out of your mind! Virtually everything you are gleaning from your propaganda flavor of choice, is either misinformed, or outright lies and deceptions!

"Putin has to stop immediatelly his illegal war in the Ukraine and all Russian soldiers have to leave the Ukraine."

I hope you understand this German "war propaganda".

 

[Big Bend Texas]

The official BS from Putin is that his “special military operation” (ie WAR) is for
“demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine.”
In fact, it’s the opposite. Dictator Putin is the aggressor and acting like Hitler. Putin is a nationalistic fascist who craves power.

What Putin really wants is to restore Russia’s perceived international power status before the breakup of the USSR, and Step 1 is to take full control of Ukraine’s territory and eliminate Ukraine’s language & cultural heritage any way possible, including genocide!

If successful, any educated person can guess what Step 2 may be ...

Anyone that was listening when he was first elected Premier when he promised to reestablish the Russian Empire knows exactly what he wants. He's never waivered from it.

It took him 20 years to get the right conditions to begin, but when they lined up he took the first step.

If he isn't stopped in Ukraine, even with a severely depleted military he will just pull back, rearm and retrain and start with the softer targets.

It's simply a matter of time, there's only one way to stop this megalomaniac and that is to make the price of continuing too high.

With luck the sanctions will break him financially and he'll have to withdraw before his army is destroyed one tank, one plane, one helicopter at a time.

No more nuclear blackmail, no more appeasing this tyrant, people/gov'ts have to be willing to say, "No more".

 

[Big Bend Texas]

2 things

De-militarization and De Nazification of Ukraine.

It's all over the news, haven't you read it?

Yes and I have some beachfront property in Chihuahua to sell you too.

This is all about raping Ukraine again of it's sovereignty and it's natural resources to enrich Putin and his buddies and to start rebuilding the Russian Empire.

The State Run Press in Russia has an even bigger reputation for lying to the world than our own.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Neutrality, the same as Austria has had since 1955.

Ukraine was already neutral and Zelensky was working to ensure it remained that way.

NATO came knocking on his door, not the other way around.

What Putin wants is their resources for his own personal enrichment and to establish his legacy.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

How do you know what motivates Putin, what he really wants??? I can tell you, based upon your post, that you haven't the first clue what motivates Putin or Russia in Ukraine, I can easily see you are stoned right out of your mind on the endless, lying western war propaganda, right out of your mind! Virtually everything you are gleaning from your propaganda flavor of choice, is either misinformed, or outright lies and deceptions!

OOoooh Kay.

 

[Muhammed]

There are no "Nazis" in Ukraine.

Yes there are. There's a shitload of them. Real Nazis, not attention-seeking LARPers like we have in the USA. Trained battle hardened killers.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

This is from a little over a week ago, showing what he's losing to take Ukraine.

Russia's staggering losses over 3 weeks of Ukraine fighting already exceed entire wars

Russia has already lost 7,000 troops – that's more than the number of American troops lost in either Afghanistan or Iraq.

news.yahoo.com

A country rated in 2021 as having just 1/10th the strength of the Russian Army has inflicted ever more devastating losses on the number 2 Ranked army in the world.

Ukraine claims over 13,800 Russian troops killed, 430 tanks destroyed since war began

The Ukrainian armed forces released indicative estimates of Russia's losses as of March 16, which amounted to thousands of people and machinery.

www.republicworld.com

Ukraine Destroys 93 Russian Aircraft And Scores Of Troops According To Report

According to authorities in Ukraine, those defending the country against the invasion recently launched by Russian leader Vladimir Putin have wiped out around 14,200 Russian military personnel — which would obviously be a major dent in the invading force and could help explain why Russian...

bipartisanreport.com

The losses of equipment have been staggering as well. Even without the sanctions it would take Putin 5-10 years to just replace what has been lost not to mention to upgrade and field newer more battleworthy armored vehicles and self propelled guns.

What's even worse for Putin is that now that the world can see how ineffective his equipment is even up against even more outdated Soviet Era equipment his arms sales are going to tank and take badly.

 

[zaangalewa]

Putin wants to roust the Khazarian Mafia and the "Natz" from Ukraine. That is his goal.

What a bullshit, Russian. With the same form of "reasoning" you could try to enslave every country in the world including the USA. Your problem is now that Putin likes not to listen any longer to the majority of all nations of the world.

 

[Muhammed]

This is chopped liver then....are you an idiot or what.

Azov Brigade - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Azov is only one of the neo-Nazi regiments in Ukraine. There are several others. Azov just gets more attention because of their accomplishments.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

What a bullshit, Russian. With the same form of "reasoning" you could try to enslave every country in the world including the USA. Your problem is now that Putin likes not to listen any longer to the majority of all nations of the world.

This Nazi BS is getting old. They are strong nationalists fighting for Ukraine Sovereignty, not hunting down Jews, Slav's, and other undesirables for mass slaughter or to die in work camps.

Now the mob angle might be worth looking into, Putin IS the Russian Mob and they hate competeition.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Azov is only one of the neo-Nazi regiments in Ukraine. There are several others. Azov just gets more attention because of their accomplishments.

No there aren't and they have more in common with Putin and his Russian Nationalists than they ever will have with Hitler's Nazis.

People need to grow up and quit being scared of symbology.