What do you expect of Billionaires being the leaders?

[Luckyone]

Here's the difference.

In the EU, where a lot of governments are elected by Proportional Representation, or at least have far more choice than two parties, the EU said that companies had to pay the rate of tax that each country set. They couldn't have a lower rate because they did a "special deal". In the US on the other hand, the larger the company, the better a "special deal" they'll get for moving to a new place, or even just staying.

Says everything, I think

You continue to make MY point. Our Constitution has prevented anyone from being an emperor. Without the Constitution, Trump and Musk could become the emperors of the U.S.

 

[Independent thinker]

I truly have a question that I would like to discuss. It is more of a general question but it does apply now.

What do you expect from Billionaires that are leaders, especially those that grew up in wealthy homes having everything they needed from the get go? Do you expect them to understand the travails, obstacles, hardships, needs of the middle and poor class? Be able to relate empathize to them in a way that is real?

In the case of Trump and of Musk, these are two leaders that were born rich and never had to experience the travails of a poor man or even of the middle class person. Can such a person understand and feel what the poor and middle class person had to go through to pay their bills, take care of their family, make sure there was food on the table, that they had health insurance and that the medical bills got paid? Did they ever have to experience racism, bullying, injustice, and life's pain as they grew up? Ever have to have 2 or 3 jobs just to make ends meet?

I want to now talk history and about some of the great leaders history has brought us.

Here are 5 that I found on Google

1) Mahatma Gandhi
2) Martin Luther King Jr.
3) Abraham Lincoln
4) Nelson Mandela
5) Winston Churchill

Did any of these people come from wealthy families? were they wealthy themselves? No, they weren't!

On the other side of the coin, here are 4 leaders that were among the richest of all time and see the havoc they wrought on their people

1) Augustus Caesar
2) Cosimo de Medici
3) Mansa Musa
4) Genghis Khan

I am not saying that wealthiness prevents someone from being a great leader, given that JF Kennedy was born to a rich family and was rich himself and was a good president. Nonetheless, there are several things that are "rarely" taught in rich families that are necessary ingredients that a leader must have. They are:

1. Character and Integrity: Great leaders have unwavering character and integrity. They stick to their values and principles even when the decision is tough. Leaders like Mahatma Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln exemplified this and led their followers with honesty and moral courage.
2. Vision and Strategy: A great leader has a clear vision for the future and the strategic thinking to make it happen. Jeff Bezos, for example, has disrupted the retail industry with his long-term view and innovative strategies at Amazon.
3. Empathy and Emotional Intelligence: Leaders who understand and connect with their followers’ emotions can inspire and motivate like no one else. Martin Luther King Jr.’s empathetic approach and communication skills were key to the civil rights movement.
4. Resilience and Perseverance: Great leadership requires the ability to withstand tough times and persevere through adversity. Nelson Mandela’s commitment to justice and equality despite decades of imprisonment shows incredible resilience.
5. Impact and Legacy: Ultimately, a leader’s greatness is measured by the impact they have on their organization, community, or the world. The greatest leaders leave a legacy that continues to inspire and influence long after they are gone.

Of these 5 attributes, there are two that neither Trump nor Musk possess and that is Character and Integrity and Empathy and Emotional Intelligence. Without those two, the leader is very limited in what he will be able to accomplish "for the people"

As such, my view is that these two leaders we now have cannot become great for our nation. Having said that, I want to hear your views but your views need to be based on the fact that both of these men were born to wealthy families and never had to go through what you and I went through. How can they empathize with us without having some personal benefit to themselves as first priority? Have money, fame and power as their top priority?

Most all of the millionaires and billionaires were trying to buy the presidency through donations to Kamala Harris.

 

[Luckyone]

Yes, a pandemic has an effect on the economy, it's also why trumps spending was 8 trillion instead of 4 trillion. Aside from a world wide pandemic, trumps economy produced better results.

As far as tax cuts go, isn't it strange how, no matter who is in office, one will raise taxes, another will lower them, and nothing realt seems to change. This is because taxes are just one side of the coin. The answer isn't taxes, it's cutting spending.

Repubs will lower taxes, but they need to cut spending as well.

Dems will raise taxes, but then they find new ways to spend the new tax revenue, but in either case, nothing really changes for the common man.

All I know is, when trump was there, I was paying less for goods and services. Now, years after covid is over, things are really expensive.

Getting rid of undocumented aliens will raise our spending and lessen our income in a huge way

 

[Luckyone]

Most all of the millionaires and billionaires were trying to buy the presidency through donations to Kamala Harris.

but no one billionaire would have been in control

 

[Luckyone]

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I didn't ask you what your Desires or Perceptions may be ...
I simply stated that an individual's value to society is not dependent on how you view their wealth.
It doesn't matter if an individual is rich or poor ... The Constitution serves us all equally as citizens.

If an individual desires to be considered as helpful ... Well ...
I damn sure don't need to steal someone else's money ... Nor do I need the Federal Government or Legislation ...
To help my neighbor so I can feel better about myself ...

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Do I need to remind you that Trump and the far right want to change the Constitution?

 

[Luckyone]

I know they have. All of course not. Some, yes.

Rich people suffer the same as poor, just in a nicer house or car. As far as empathy goes, that is a human trait. Some people rich or poor will have empathy.

A Google search, what you hear on CNN or Comedy Central, will never ever tell you if Trump or anyone else has empathy for other people.

Do rich people have empathy? Obviously the Democrats have no empathy for the people. They just spent $1.5 billion in 15 weeks. By your standards, Kamala and the Democrats have no empathy.

Funny thing is, you show no empathy towards your fellow people.

BS

 

[Luckyone]

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Power does not like or dislike anything ... It is simply the ability to limit or influence others.

The Constitution does limit the power of the Federal Government and what it can make any individual do ...
And the Constitution was not created to limit any individual based simply on their wealth.

The Constitution was not created to allow the Federal Government to pick winners and losers ...
And it was created to specifically forbid the Federal Government from doing that very thing.

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Bottom line, Trump and Musk want no controls (meaning the Constitution gotten rid of or changed).

 

[hadit]

It is about the norm of understanding the needs

Yet no one can become president today without either having a lot of money or a lot of big money donors and you need to be a professional politician, which automatically precludes you from understanding the needs. That's why TRUMP! ran into so much opposition from the established political class, he wasn't one of them, hadn't been playing the political game all his life.

The average guy who's going to truly understand the needs will never become president.

 

[LeftofLeft]

A billionaire can relate to everyone no more or less than a millionaire lifelong politician who made their wealth off the backs of taxpayers. We just saw that in the ‘24 Election.

 

[BlackSand]

Do I need to remind you that Trump and the far right want to change the Constitution?

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The President cannot change the Constitution ... Only Congress can Amend the Constitution ...
And then it has to be ratified by the People at the State level ...

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[BlackSand]

Bottom line, Trump and Musk want no controls (meaning the Constitution gotten rid of or changed).

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The bottom line is ...
The Constitution specifically grants the President Executive Powers over all the Departments in the Executive Branch ...
And the Constitution does not grant the Executive Branch the Power to change or get rid of the Constitution ...

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[Luckyone]

Yet no one can become president today without either having a lot of money or a lot of big money donors and you need to be a professional politician, which automatically precludes you from understanding the needs. That's why TRUMP! ran into so much opposition from the established political class, he wasn't one of them, hadn't been playing the political game all his life.

The average guy who's going to truly understand the needs will never become president.

You are right but the problem is that Trump is a highly flawed HUMAN BEING and because of that, his being picked is a huge mistake. The Republican party could have chosen someone else that also did not any political experience.

When choosing someone to change things you do not pick someone that has been incompetent in his life and has also been a con artist.

 

[Luckyone]

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The President cannot change the Constitution ... Only Congress can Amend the Constitution ...
And then it has to be ratified by the People at the State level ...

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Do I need to remind you that the Republicans are in control of Congress and the far right (the ones that are in control of the Republican party) are the ones that want to change the Constitution? In addition, the Republicans are also in control of the Supreme Court!

 

[Luckyone]

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The bottom line is ...
The Constitution specifically grants the President Executive Powers over all the Departments in the Executive Branch ...
And the Constitution does not grant the Executive Branch the Power to change or get rid of the Constitution ...

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but if the Executive branch, the House, the Senate and the Supreme Court all work together to change the Constitution, they can and will

 

[hadit]

You are right but the problem is that Trump is a highly flawed HUMAN BEING and because of that, his being picked is a huge mistake. The Republican party could have chosen someone else that also did not any political experience.

When choosing someone to change things you do not pick someone that has been incompetent in his life and has also been a con artist.

The trouble with that is this. You have to have a LOT of money, hundreds of millions or even a billion or two, to successfully run for president. If you don't have a lot of money yourself, you're dependent on the party and party donors to get it. If you want someone who is willing to fight and change things, you're going up against the party and its donors, so you'd better have access to a lot of money outside the party power structure. There are very few billionaires willing to spend tens or hundreds of millions of their own money to run for president.

TRUMP! has been successful in his life. Orange Man Bad has you believing anything and everything negative anyone has said about him.

 

[BlackSand]

Do I need to remind you that the Republicans are in control of Congress and the far right (the ones that are in control of the Republican party) are the ones that want to change the Constitution? In addition, the Republicans are also in control of the Supreme Court!

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The Constitution established this Nation as a Democratically Elected Representative Republic ...
And the members of Congress are elected by the People.
The members of Congress are not selected by the President ... Nor are they selected by the Supreme Court.

You don't need to remind me of anything ...
I'm just going to keep correcting every mistake you make in every statement you post ...

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[hadit]

but if the Executive branch, the House, the Senate and the Supreme Court all work together to change the Constitution, they can and will

They can't without the states agreeing to do it. That's the genius of the Constitution itself, preventing the Federal government from arbitrarily changing it.

 

[Luckyone]

They can't without the states agreeing to do it. That's the genius of the Constitution itself, preventing the Federal government from arbitrarily changing it.

But most of the states are under Republican support and all it takes is a majority

 

[Luckyone]

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The Constitution established this Nation as a Democratically Elected Representative Republic ...
And the members of Congress are elected by the People.
The members of Congress are not selected by the President ... Nor are they selected by the Supreme Court.

You don't need to remind me of anything ...
I'm just going to keep correcting every mistake you make in every statement you post ...

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But the fact remains that the far right controls the executive branch, the House, the Senate, the Supreme Court and 80% of all states

Here is the AI response on what it would take to change the Constitution

To change the United States Constitution, an amendment must go through the following process:

• Proposal
  Two-thirds of both houses of Congress must pass the proposed amendment. Alternatively, two-thirds of state legislatures can request that Congress call a convention to propose amendments.
• Ratification
  Three-fourths of state legislatures or conventions must ratify the amendment.

 

[Luckyone]

They can't without the states agreeing to do it. That's the genius of the Constitution itself, preventing the Federal government from arbitrarily changing it.

AI response

To change the United States Constitution, an amendment must go through the following process:

• Proposal
  Two-thirds of both houses of Congress must pass the proposed amendment. Alternatively, two-thirds of state legislatures can request that Congress call a convention to propose amendments.
• Ratification
  Three-fourths of state legislatures or conventions must ratify the amendment.