Who does P. M. Mark Carney represent more effectively, BILL GATES or the average Canadian?

[DennisPTate]

Sometimes a really stupid question can get us thinking along a line that could be productive.

I am of the belief that IF the new national leader of the N. D. P., Mr. Avi Lewis, could collaborate to at least some degree with
Conservative Party Leader Mr. Pierre Poilievre THEN Prime Minister Mark Carney could well be manoeuvred into a position where he becomes CANADA'S F. D. R. IN TERMS OF CANADIANS BEING GIVEN A "NEW DEAL?"

Here is another discussion that is related to what I have in mind:

Thread 'Was FDR essentially FORCED into The New Deal?'

Apr 3, 2026

Or did the application of the Worgl Austria Local Money Experiment give FDR the excuse that he needed to do what he really wanted to do for Americans anyway?

I personally would like to think that Economics Professor Irving Fisher gave FDR the tools that he needed to convince the Elite of his time period into agreeing to something that the Elite.... tends to NOT want to see happen?

[The Truth About Money: The Money SystemIsnt There a Better Way?
by Francis and Lia Ayley] :

"City in Austria Printed Local Currency
Worgl, like many other European towns and cities, was hit hard by...

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Thread 'Was the 1938 to 1974 Bank of Canada policy based significantly on Lincoln Greenbacks?'

Nov 8, 2025

I have difficulty imagining that the Canadian Fathers of Confederation were entirely unaware of how the President Abraham Lincoln Greenback Monetary Policy Experiment had save USA taxpayers about four BILLION dollars in Interest payments?

The Lincoln Greenback Monetary Experiment took place from 1861 to his death in 1865. The British North America Act formed Canada in 1867. Was the Greenback Monetary Policy Experiment in the minds of the Canadian Fathers of Confederation as they Drafted the British North America Act?

So we move ahead to 1938 and we will see that Canadian political...

• DennisPTate
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If you tend to believe that F. D. R. was virtually "FORCED" into giving Americans the "New Deal" then you will tend to view what may happen next in Canadian politics as P. M. Mark Carney also being forced into what he doesn't want to do but I personally strongly suspect that F. D. R. really wanted to give Americans "The New Deal" but he had to ACT as if he was forced into signing the New Deal, [because he had to SELL THE NEW DEAL, to the wealthiest of the wealthy!?

Here is some background information for you:

[The Truth About Money: The Money SystemIsnt There a Better Way?
by Francis and Lia Ayley] :

"City in Austria Printed Local Currency
Worgl, like many other European towns and cities, was hit hard by the Great Depression. There was mass unemployment; four of the five local factories had closed, and the people were starving in the streets. Nobody had any money to buy anything. One of the features of an economic depression is that there is not enough money in circulation to ensure that people can meet their basic needs, and in the 1930s, the shortage of currency in many countries of the world became catastrophic.

The mayor of Worgl, together with local businessmen, decided to try to break this economic impasse by creating their own local currency. They printed and issued 60,000 Austrian shillings worth of local currency. These shillings could only be spent in Worgl, so they remained in the local community and were exchanged over and over again.

The positive impact was immediate and surprising to everyone. In only six weeks, unemployment disappeared, all the factories had reopened and everyone had food. For the inhabitants of Worgl, the economic depression was gone. This dramatic transformation became known as the “miracle of Worgl.” Surrounding towns, inspired by the success of Worgl, immediately started printing their own local currencies.

Sadly, the miracle did not last long. When the Austrian Central Bank heard about Worgl’s local currency, they initiated legal proceedings against the mayor and local businessmen. According to Austrian banking law, it was illegal for anyone except the Austrian Central Bank to issue money. The bank won the court case, and the mayor was ordered to shut down the local currency, which he did, under threat of imprisonment. The town then returned to the devastating economic depression of the 1930s, with all the human pain and suffering associated with this catastrophe. Factories closed, and once again, the people starved.

Alternative Currency in the U.S.
Irving Fisher, an American professor of economics at Yale University, visited Worgl before the local currency was suppressed and witnessed the ‘miracle’ firsthand. When he returned to the United States, Fisher spread the word by traveling and lecturing across the country, advocating the use of the Worgl ‘scrip’ everywhere. Inspired by his vision, hundreds of communities began issuing their own currency, and by 1934 there were over 1,000 local communities using ‘scrip’ throughout the U.S.

Every one of these communities experienced a tremendous rejuvenation of their local economies. They thrived while others suffered. Fisher then met with President Franklin D. Roosevelt, proposing the implementation of government-sanctioned local ‘scrip’ in every community in America. When FDR consulted with his top financial advisors and bankers, however, he was advised to shut all the ‘scrip’ systems down, which he did. Instead, he borrowed large amounts of money from bankers, at interest, and used it to pay for the Reconstruction Finance Corporation and the other work-creation projects, which collectively came to be known as the ‘New Deal.’ So ended the last widespread use of a local currency within the U.S.

This pattern of economic collapse and re-emergence of local currencies has occurred thousands of times in many parts of the world. When these currencies have failed or have been suppressed, banks have not always been to blame. Sometimes, local currencies fail because they have been badly designed or implemented. Sometimes, people lose interest in them when the mainstream economy recovers. But they have always returned in one form or another during times of economic failure.

Our present world situation is uniquely different. Despite a relatively prosperous and stable world economy, a quiet monetary revolution has been occurring around the globe over the last 20 years. Awareness is growing about the flaws in our current monetary system, and people are re-creating viable alternatives. We are witnessing for the first time the worldwide creation of money systems designed by the people who use them, instead of by central banks.

Time Dollars in Whatcom County"

[ The Truth About Money: The Money SystemIsnt There a Better Way?
by Francis and Lia Ayley}

Because P. M. Mark Carney could not STOP P. M. Justin Trudeau from doing some of his most totalitarian measures then there is no way that the average Canadian can immediately not wonder if P. M. Mark Carney might just be on a similar page to where P. M. Justin Trudeau obviously was?

Neo-Malthusianism is an economic and social philosophy that updates the 18th-century theories of Thomas Robert Malthus, arguing that population growth, coupled with overconsumption, will outpace the Earth's finite resources, leading to environmental degradation, famine, and conflict. Unlike original Malthusianism, which opposed artificial contraception, Neo-Malthusians advocate for birth control, family planning, and state-led population management to avoid a "Malthusian catastrophe". [1, 2]

Core Tenets of Neo-Malthusianism

• Finite Carrying Capacity: The Earth has a strict limit to the population it can support (carrying capacity).
• Environmental & Resource Crisis: Overpopulation is seen as the primary driver of environmental degradation, including climate change, deforestation, and biodiversity loss.
• Preventive Checks: They strongly support using artificial birth control, voluntary sterilization, and family planning to reduce fertility rates (preventive checks) rather than relying on war or famine (positive checks) to limit population.
• Focus on Consumption: Modern Neo-Malthusians emphasize that developed countries with high consumption levels also contribute to resource depletion, not just developing nations with high fertility rates. [1, 2, 3]

Historical Development & Key Thinkers

• Origins (19th Century): The movement began in Britain, notably through organizations like the Malthusian League (1877), which supported contraception to reduce poverty, separating Malthus's population concerns from his opposition to birth control.
• Mid-20th Century Revival: Following a population surge after 1945,Neo-Malthusianism was revitalized by figures like Fairfield Osborn (1948) and William Vogt (1948), focusing on ecology and resource depletion.
• Paul Ehrlich: Author of The Population Bomb (1968), which predicted mass starvation due to overpopulation and brought global attention to the need for population control.
• Garrett Hardin: Formulated the "The Tragedy of the Commons" (1968), arguing that common resources will be destroyed if access is not restricted and population is not managed.
• Club of Rome: Published The Limits to Growth (1972), using computer modeling to simulate the limits of industrial and population growth on a finite planet. [1, 2, 3]

Modern Applications & Issues

• Population Policy: Neo-Malthusian thought heavily influenced 20th-century policies, such as China's former One-Child Policy and coerced sterilizations during India's "Emergency" in the 1970s.
• Sustainability & Climate: Today, this thinking persists in arguments that connect population size to climate change, resource wars (e.g., water scarcity), and calls for smaller families.
• Resource Management: It remains a key perspective in environmental science concerning the sustainable exploitation of ecosystem

In a way Mr. Bill Gates may well be the most famous "Neo-Malthusian Economic Philosopher" on earth at this time.

Innovating to zero! | Bill Gates​

 

[The Irish Ram]

Carney represents Epstein...

 

[DennisPTate]

Carney represents Epstein...

Now that is an interesting angle on all of this I must admit!


www.TheyLied.ca/

... but... even all of the interesting data on this page would not automatically prevent P. M. Mark Carney from becoming somewhat like F. D. R. in terms of a "New Deal" for the average Canadian blue collar worker.

Zone1 Post in thread 'No taxes on OVERTIME PLUS.... Unconditional but Taxable Basic Minimum Income Supplements?'

Wednesday at 12:07 AM

Because Compound Interest Over Time is being used to turn all of us into allegorical "gerbils on an economic treadmill" but President Abraham proved that there was a better way to do this. President Lincoln was murdered in 1865 but we Canadians saw what President Lincoln accomplished and we came up with a way to do something similar from 1938 to 1974.


So who owns BigMedia as well as the universities?

The same people who use "Compound Interest Over Time" to rule over ninety nine point nine percent of us.

So don't be shocked if your favourite Professor of Economics did not explain...

• ThunderKiss1965

IF Mr. Avi Lewis, THE NEW LEADER OF THE NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF CANADA IS WILLING TO MAKE P. M. MARK CARNEY "JEALOUS" BY GETTING INTO A PUBLIC DEBATE WITH MR. PIERRE POILIEVRE ON HOW BEST TO APPLY THE PRINCIPLES TAUGHT BY ECONOMIST MILTON FRIEDMAN...... THEN VOILA.......
P. M. MARK CARNEY AND HIS TEAM FEARING A NDP PLUS Conservative coalition..... [that could come together in a few days if P. M. Avi Lewis was given a MINORITY GOVERNMENT and depended on Conservative Party support...... [which would be the case IF P. M. Mark Carney was go drive the number of Liberal Party M. P's even below the Bar set by Mr. Michael Ignatieff?????

Thread 'Will P. M. Mark Carney leave the Liberals with fewer M. P's than Mr. Ignatieff did?'

Jan 25, 2026

Will P. M. Mark Carney leave Canada's Liberal Party with fewer remaining M. P's than Mr. Michael Ignatieff did?

I actually joined Canada's Liberal Party in 2009 after I heard Mr. Ignatieff give a compliment to Prime Minister Stephen Harper for "tabling a relatively "Liberal" budget."

That is the only approach to politics that I personally could take so I joined the Liberals. The fact that at that time it was almost impossible to have an intelligent discussion about Climate Change with Conservatives, left me with little real alternative anyway.



"In my opinion as somebody who actually...

• DennisPTate
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Thread 'Would an Unconditional but Taxable Basic Minimum Income Supplement pay down Canada federal deficit by twenty billion dollars monthly?'

Feb 23, 2026

... IF this Basic Minimum Income was financed through the Bank of Canada in the manner that half of the money supply of Canada was created from 1938 to 1974?

So IF forty one million Canadians were all given five hundred dollars per month, from cradle to grave, that was financed by The Bank of Canada would this result in the federal deficit being paid down by roughly twenty billion Canadian Dollars per month?

Once money turns over in the economy three to four times it is taxed back into the coffers of the federal, provincial or municipal governments.

[Ms. Betty Krawczyk] ...

• DennisPTate
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[DennisPTate]

Carney represents Epstein...

On that note....
do you believe that Mr. Bill Gates wrote the script for the lecture "Innovating to zero" himself........... or was the script passed to him with a warning that he had better make it look as if he had written this script himself?


One of those rivalries "at the top" could soon become relevant to all Canadians?

Thread 'Elon Musk vs Bill Gates? Does "Young Sheldon" remind you of a possible "Young Elon.?"'

Nov 14, 2025

Does the series "Young Sheldon" remind you of a possible "Young Elon" as much as it does me?

Through his lecture "Innovating to zero" Mr. Bill Gates became something of a poster boy for Neo-Malthusian Economic Theory and philosophy. I believe that Mr. Elon Musk and Mr. Bill Gates are destined to collide, [I believe that Elon Musk is going to allegorically mop the floor with Bill Gates, [partly due to the fact that I am convinced that the supposed break up of President Donald J. Trump with Elon Musk, was scripted and choreographed brilliantly, so that Elon Musk would not LOSE BILLIONS OF...

• DennisPTate
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• Forum: Humor

If this rivalry between Musk vs Gates does greatly intensify .....
even the United States will be watching......
much as they were watching when this video went viral.




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