What do you expect of Billionaires being the leaders?

[elektra]

This is my last reply to you. Read the OP again. This OP is about WEALTHY people that grew up in wealth. I mentioned poor and middle class as being one and the same, contrary to being wealthy.

Here are two pics that will contradict your pics

View attachment 1043525

View attachment 1043527

Are you rich? Is your house or life style like Trump's? or more like Martin Luther Kings? Do you live in a Black neighborhood? Do you think that Trumps empathizes with your living conditions or hardships you have had in your life, because he went through them himself?

You are an idiot. You said grew up poor, nobody in your list grew up poor. Rich, yes, I can describe Martin Luther King, Ghandi. Mandela, as growing up rich. Especially compared to the average population.

You made claims about Trump's childhood then use a picture of mar lago to make a point.

The bottom line is you have no idea who Trump is

Your OP is nothing but bigotry

 

[elektra]

That wasn't Martin Luther kings parents home.
That was his grandparents home, that they moved into,
So I could argue they were POORER than all those black families who actually OWNED the home they lived in.

You can not argue that a successful pastor in Atlanta was as poor as a working black man.

Poor, is a very relative term. How was it that King could afford to go to universities when other black men could not?

Of course maybe the cost was much less than? So that may not make a good point.

Either way, lucky one said MLK grew up poor so he had empathy.

I showed MLK was far from poor. Lucky one was wrong

2nd, poor or not poor has nothing to do with empathy. I can easily argue that being poor results on no empathy. Which would also be wrong.

Poor or rich, people are still people and unless you know them personally, or read a hundred books about them, you have no idea how they grew up and or what they were exposed to.

Claiming rich people have no empathy cause they are rich is nothing less than pure bigotry.

Poor, the OP is flat out round
EMPATHY, rich don't have empathy, that is bigotry, you know, stereotypes and all

 

[elektra]

Just one example of people who worked for Trump that he didn't care about.

In May, Trump Miami Resort Management LLC settled with 48 servers at his Miami golf resort over failing to pay overtime for a special event.
Some workers put in 20-hour days over the 10-day Passover event at Trump National Doral Miami,

That's 48 people who worked for Trump.

Care? That little unsourced snippet don't show nothing about Trump.

I bet Trump is so far removed from the management of these workers that he had no idea what happened

 

[elektra]

How's this for starters? They're both a couple of trust fund babies who had everything handed to them on a silver platter. Especially Trump in the "leader" & (I use that term loosly) category who's one of the biggrst lowlifes who ever lived.

Considering you're in his cult, you'll never see the shiv going in until it's too late to duck.

Yet, it was you who believed Biden was well and would be president.

Your judgement is proven, bad

Nothing is lost easier in life than inherited money. A silver platter? Maybe, but when you drop a silver platter you lose much more than if you drop a platter made in China.

Sure, Trump got help but that has nothing to do with the amount of work and effort that Trump put into turning 10 million into 10 billion

 

[BluesLegend]

Okay all you stupid shit Democrats, were the founders the smartest, most wealthy among us? HELLO earth to moron Dems.

 

[BluesLegend]

You are an idiot. You said grew up poor

I grew up poor on a Dem plantation in section 8 housing eating government cheese. I know Democrats true nature. Those Dem filth tried to trap me in poverty but I outsmarted those MF'ers.

 

[Clipper]

Yet, it was you who believed Biden was well and would be president.

Your judgement is proven, bad

Nothing is lost easier in life than inherited money. A silver platter? Maybe, but when you drop a silver platter you lose much more than if you drop a platter made in China.

Sure, Trump got help but that has nothing to do with the amount of work and effort that Trump put into turning 10 million into 10 billion

Try $400 million that he got from his daddy, then blew every nickel of it. The only reason Trump was brought out of oblivion was because people fell for his bullshit act on that reality teeeeveeee show which was the biggret pile of horseshit that NBC ever peddled to the morons who gave it good ratings.

 

[BluesLegend]

Try $400 million that he got from his daddy

Ah, Dem wealth envy haven't seen a post about that in like 1.5 seconds.

 

[BlackSand]

I truly have a question that I would like to discuss. It is more of a general question but it does apply now.

What do you expect from Billionaires that are leaders, especially those that grew up in wealthy homes having everything they needed from the get go? Do you expect them to understand the travails, obstacles, hardships, needs of the middle and poor class? Be able to relate empathize to them in a way that is real?

In the case of Trump and of Musk, these are two leaders that were born rich and never had to experience the travails of a poor man or even of the middle class person. Can such a person understand and feel what the poor and middle class person had to go through to pay their bills, take care of their family, make sure there was food on the table, that they had health insurance and that the medical bills got paid? Did they ever have to experience racism, bullying, injustice, and life's pain as they grew up? Ever have to have 2 or 3 jobs just to make ends meet?

I want to now talk history and about some of the great leaders history has brought us.

Here are 5 that I found on Google

1) Mahatma Gandhi
2) Martin Luther King Jr.
3) Abraham Lincoln
4) Nelson Mandela
5) Winston Churchill

Did any of these people come from wealthy families? were they wealthy themselves? No, they weren't!

On the other side of the coin, here are 4 leaders that were among the richest of all time and see the havoc they wrought on their people

1) Augustus Caesar
2) Cosimo de Medici
3) Mansa Musa
4) Genghis Khan

I am not saying that wealthiness prevents someone from being a great leader, given that JF Kennedy was born to a rich family and was rich himself and was a good president. Nonetheless, there are several things that are "rarely" taught in rich families that are necessary ingredients that a leader must have. They are:

1. Character and Integrity: Great leaders have unwavering character and integrity. They stick to their values and principles even when the decision is tough. Leaders like Mahatma Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln exemplified this and led their followers with honesty and moral courage.
2. Vision and Strategy: A great leader has a clear vision for the future and the strategic thinking to make it happen. Jeff Bezos, for example, has disrupted the retail industry with his long-term view and innovative strategies at Amazon.
3. Empathy and Emotional Intelligence: Leaders who understand and connect with their followers’ emotions can inspire and motivate like no one else. Martin Luther King Jr.’s empathetic approach and communication skills were key to the civil rights movement.
4. Resilience and Perseverance: Great leadership requires the ability to withstand tough times and persevere through adversity. Nelson Mandela’s commitment to justice and equality despite decades of imprisonment shows incredible resilience.
5. Impact and Legacy: Ultimately, a leader’s greatness is measured by the impact they have on their organization, community, or the world. The greatest leaders leave a legacy that continues to inspire and influence long after they are gone.

Of these 5 attributes, there are two that neither Trump nor Musk possess and that is Character and Integrity and Empathy and Emotional Intelligence. Without those two, the leader is very limited in what he will be able to accomplish "for the people"

As such, my view is that these two leaders we now have cannot become great for our nation. Having said that, I want to hear your views but your views need to be based on the fact that both of these men were born to wealthy families and never had to go through what you and I went through. How can they empathize with us without having some personal benefit to themselves as first priority? Have money, fame and power as their top priority?

.

Wonderful attempt to try and put lipstick on Critical Theory and Class Warfare ...

.​

 

[Luckyone]

But it's okay if the president is just a millionaire who didn't hold a regular job their entire life?

It is about the norm of understanding the needs

You are an idiot. You said grew up poor, nobody in your list grew up poor. Rich, yes, I can describe Martin Luther King, Ghandi. Mandela, as growing up rich. Especially compared to the average population.

You made claims about Trump's childhood then use a picture of mar lago to make a point.

The bottom line is you have no idea who Trump is

Your OP is nothing but bigotry

The OP is NOT about those people. They are examples that were gotten from Google and your intention has been to prove the OP wrong by debasing the examples.

Nonetheless, the OP is not about the examples but about the very wealthy not relating to/empathic with and/or understanding what the poor and middle class have to do to get by. The wealthy never experienced any of that, meaning they address the issue based on what they THINK and what they believe will be successful but not having experienced it, they do not really know what to do. In addition, the very fact they grew up wealthy, they think first about what makes them personally wealthier.

Here is the AI response to this issue

According to research, the probability of a wealthy person fully empathizing with the experiences of a poor or middle class person is considered to be relatively low due to the significant differences in lifestyle, daily challenges, and perspectives that come with socioeconomic disparity; studies often show that wealthier individuals may have a harder time accurately understanding the struggles faced by those in poverty or even the middle class, potentially limiting their ability to fully empathize.

 

[Luckyone]

Dood - you said Churchill did not come from a wealthy family. He did - and he personally saved Western Civilization during WWII.

You didn't do your homework. You just believed whatever Google and it's inherent AI regurgitated for you.

Churchill was not the point of the OP.

Do you believe that wealthy people have ever felt what you feel and have gone through in your life?

 

[boedicca]

Churchill was not the point of the OP.

Do you believe that wealthy people have ever felt what you feel and have gone through in your life?

Nobody has felt what I feel or what I have gone through. My life and experiences are unique to me just as everyone else's are unique to them.

But we are all human and experience pain, shame, guilt, stress, grief, disappointment, loss as well a joy, happiness, love, friendship, and the satisfaction of accomplishments. These are not unique to any class. Very rich people can have a rough go of it in ways that are usually not financial. What matters is the values they rely upon in life. In our present age, a great many of the (credentialed) wealthy elite have thoroughly corrupt and misplaced values. This is why Trump beat Kam!. Trump in general displays quite healthy values in regards to a loving family, hard work, and being a productive member of the community. His ability to relate to working people contributed greatly to his victory. Contrast that with the Dems who view such people as garbage.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Trump had a year head start.

Also, the media just can't stop themselves from feeding the troll. I blame the media more than anyone else for Trump's political success.

For example, Trump was bitter and depressed Biden bowed out, and even more upset at the rapid momentum Harris acquired. He was getting his ass kicked and didn't like it.

Then came the debate.

Everyone knows Trump got his ass beat hard by Harris in the debate, but what is the one and only thing everyone remembers about it?

"They're eating THE DAWGS!"

Instead of just leaving that racist bullshit be, the media fed that troll and harped on it for WEEKS.

Which meant no one was talking about Harris any more.

Trump has always known exactly what to do to make the conversation about him.

The Democrats did not lose for all the stupid reasons everyone is giving. DEI, wokism, whatever.

Trump won for the very same reason he won in 2016.

The fat troll knows how to get the media to feed him.

Who to you believe the democrat elites will pick for your candidate in 2028?
Kommie again.

 

[Lastamender]

I truly have a question that I would like to discuss. It is more of a general question but it does apply now.

What do you expect from Billionaires that are leaders, especially those that grew up in wealthy homes having everything they needed from the get go? Do you expect them to understand the travails, obstacles, hardships, needs of the middle and poor class? Be able to relate empathize to them in a way that is real?

In the case of Trump and of Musk, these are two leaders that were born rich and never had to experience the travails of a poor man or even of the middle class person. Can such a person understand and feel what the poor and middle class person had to go through to pay their bills, take care of their family, make sure there was food on the table, that they had health insurance and that the medical bills got paid? Did they ever have to experience racism, bullying, injustice, and life's pain as they grew up? Ever have to have 2 or 3 jobs just to make ends meet?

I want to now talk history and about some of the great leaders history has brought us.

Here are 5 that I found on Google

1) Mahatma Gandhi
2) Martin Luther King Jr.
3) Abraham Lincoln
4) Nelson Mandela
5) Winston Churchill

Did any of these people come from wealthy families? were they wealthy themselves? No, they weren't!

On the other side of the coin, here are 4 leaders that were among the richest of all time and see the havoc they wrought on their people

1) Augustus Caesar
2) Cosimo de Medici
3) Mansa Musa
4) Genghis Khan

I am not saying that wealthiness prevents someone from being a great leader, given that JF Kennedy was born to a rich family and was rich himself and was a good president. Nonetheless, there are several things that are "rarely" taught in rich families that are necessary ingredients that a leader must have. They are:

1. Character and Integrity: Great leaders have unwavering character and integrity. They stick to their values and principles even when the decision is tough. Leaders like Mahatma Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln exemplified this and led their followers with honesty and moral courage.
2. Vision and Strategy: A great leader has a clear vision for the future and the strategic thinking to make it happen. Jeff Bezos, for example, has disrupted the retail industry with his long-term view and innovative strategies at Amazon.
3. Empathy and Emotional Intelligence: Leaders who understand and connect with their followers’ emotions can inspire and motivate like no one else. Martin Luther King Jr.’s empathetic approach and communication skills were key to the civil rights movement.
4. Resilience and Perseverance: Great leadership requires the ability to withstand tough times and persevere through adversity. Nelson Mandela’s commitment to justice and equality despite decades of imprisonment shows incredible resilience.
5. Impact and Legacy: Ultimately, a leader’s greatness is measured by the impact they have on their organization, community, or the world. The greatest leaders leave a legacy that continues to inspire and influence long after they are gone.

Of these 5 attributes, there are two that neither Trump nor Musk possess and that is Character and Integrity and Empathy and Emotional Intelligence. Without those two, the leader is very limited in what he will be able to accomplish "for the people"

As such, my view is that these two leaders we now have cannot become great for our nation. Having said that, I want to hear your views but your views need to be based on the fact that both of these men were born to wealthy families and never had to go through what you and I went through. How can they empathize with us without having some personal benefit to themselves as first priority? Have money, fame and power as their top priority?

Why do you keep trying to moralize? You do not have a leg to stand on. Name someone you think has those qualities.

 

[BlackSand]

Do you believe that wealthy people have ever felt what you feel and have gone through in your life?

.

Yes ... And I have known quite a few wealthy people who have probably suffered more than me at times.
The question is ... Can you empathize with wealthy people ... Do you honestly think you can understand the hardships they have conquered?

Most people can't ... And that very well could be one of the reasons they aren't wealthy ...

.​

 

[meaner gene]

I grew up poor on a Dem plantation in section 8 housing eating government cheese. I know Democrats true nature. Those Dem filth tried to trap me in poverty but I outsmarted those MF'ers.

You escaped from the plantation?
So they tried to force you to skip school, sell drugs, and shoplift?

 

[frigidweirdo]

I truly have a question that I would like to discuss. It is more of a general question but it does apply now.

What do you expect from Billionaires that are leaders, especially those that grew up in wealthy homes having everything they needed from the get go? Do you expect them to understand the travails, obstacles, hardships, needs of the middle and poor class? Be able to relate empathize to them in a way that is real?

In the case of Trump and of Musk, these are two leaders that were born rich and never had to experience the travails of a poor man or even of the middle class person. Can such a person understand and feel what the poor and middle class person had to go through to pay their bills, take care of their family, make sure there was food on the table, that they had health insurance and that the medical bills got paid? Did they ever have to experience racism, bullying, injustice, and life's pain as they grew up? Ever have to have 2 or 3 jobs just to make ends meet?

I want to now talk history and about some of the great leaders history has brought us.

Here are 5 that I found on Google

1) Mahatma Gandhi
2) Martin Luther King Jr.
3) Abraham Lincoln
4) Nelson Mandela
5) Winston Churchill

Did any of these people come from wealthy families? were they wealthy themselves? No, they weren't!

On the other side of the coin, here are 4 leaders that were among the richest of all time and see the havoc they wrought on their people

1) Augustus Caesar
2) Cosimo de Medici
3) Mansa Musa
4) Genghis Khan

I am not saying that wealthiness prevents someone from being a great leader, given that JF Kennedy was born to a rich family and was rich himself and was a good president. Nonetheless, there are several things that are "rarely" taught in rich families that are necessary ingredients that a leader must have. They are:

1. Character and Integrity: Great leaders have unwavering character and integrity. They stick to their values and principles even when the decision is tough. Leaders like Mahatma Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln exemplified this and led their followers with honesty and moral courage.
2. Vision and Strategy: A great leader has a clear vision for the future and the strategic thinking to make it happen. Jeff Bezos, for example, has disrupted the retail industry with his long-term view and innovative strategies at Amazon.
3. Empathy and Emotional Intelligence: Leaders who understand and connect with their followers’ emotions can inspire and motivate like no one else. Martin Luther King Jr.’s empathetic approach and communication skills were key to the civil rights movement.
4. Resilience and Perseverance: Great leadership requires the ability to withstand tough times and persevere through adversity. Nelson Mandela’s commitment to justice and equality despite decades of imprisonment shows incredible resilience.
5. Impact and Legacy: Ultimately, a leader’s greatness is measured by the impact they have on their organization, community, or the world. The greatest leaders leave a legacy that continues to inspire and influence long after they are gone.

Of these 5 attributes, there are two that neither Trump nor Musk possess and that is Character and Integrity and Empathy and Emotional Intelligence. Without those two, the leader is very limited in what he will be able to accomplish "for the people"

As such, my view is that these two leaders we now have cannot become great for our nation. Having said that, I want to hear your views but your views need to be based on the fact that both of these men were born to wealthy families and never had to go through what you and I went through. How can they empathize with us without having some personal benefit to themselves as first priority? Have money, fame and power as their top priority?

The US has, for a long time, been run by the rich. They just weren't the presidents or the Congressmen. Nothing will change

 

[BluesLegend]

You escaped from the plantation?
So they tried to force you to skip school, sell drugs, and shoplift?

No, the parasite mooching Democrats tried to take every working class raise I ever got the greedy assholes. Tax and fee and mooch that's the Dem party.

 

[meaner gene]

Yet, it was you who believed Biden was well and would be president.

Your judgement is proven, bad

Nothing is lost easier in life than inherited money. A silver platter? Maybe, but when you drop a silver platter you lose much more than if you drop a platter made in China.

Sure, Trump got help but that has nothing to do with the amount of work and effort that Trump put into turning 10 million into 10 billion

And it wasn't 10 million it was $400 million.
And along the way Trump managed to lose $1 billion in a single year.

A stock analyst calculated that if Trump had just taken what he inherited, and put it into an s&p index fund, like Warren Buffet likes. His $400 million would be worth $30 billion today.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/heres-what-10000-investment-sp-500-index-fund-1980-would-be-worth-today-2018-02-08

 

[meaner gene]

No, the parasite mooching Democrats tried to take every working class raise I ever got the greedy assholes. Tax and fee and mooch that's the Dem party.

So you prefer the republican strategy of spending just as much as the democrats, but borrowing the money instead of increasing taxes, and putting us into the enormous debt we have today.

That's your preference?