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History will not be kind to today's Republican Party. Extremist, obstructive, uncompromising they will go down as a force that brought the country to it's knees and then fought like hell to keep it there
A prime example of why it's ridiculous to try and judge a President or a party of today now. You assume history will share your view of Republicans I could make the same kind of claim about how history will view the Democratic party and it would be no more true or accurate than your view. We have no idea how history will view any one person or party and us thinking we know does not make it so.
History will not be kind to today's Republican Party. Extremist, obstructive, uncompromising they will go down as a force that brought the country to it's knees and then fought like hell to keep it there
A prime example of why it's ridiculous to try and judge a President or a party of today now. You assume history will share your view of Republicans I could make the same kind of claim about how history will view the Democratic party and it would be no more true or accurate than your view. We have no idea how history will view any one person or party and us thinking we know does not make it so.
There are some historical benchmarks one can go to, to do a quick and dirty analysis.
Clinton's republicans were pretty obstructionist as well..so much so..they closed down government and impeached him.
Thus far..history has been far kinder to Clinton..then his congress.
This is spot on...
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What do historians really think of Obama? | Fox News.
Liberals will not read this because it's found on the foxnews.com website. Or they will read it and instantly show a wide range of emotions. From dismissive to down right furious anger.
That does not make this man's views any less correct.
Well, it's pure bullshit for several reasons:
1. It's Fox News - and was written by Ed Klein (he's an Obama smear merchant).
2. Not even one live source link.
3. Obama hasn't even completed one term in office.
What have these "historians" written about Obama so far?
Historical rankings of Presidents of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So you are accusing Klein of lying? That none of the invited historians talked?
Edward Klein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaKlein has been criticized for his biography of Hillary Clinton titled, The Truth about Hillary: What She Knew, When She Knew It, and How Far She'll Go to Become President, which was released on June 21, 2005 and which has a strongly republican tone [3]. Politico criticized the book for "serious factual errors, truncated and distorted quotes and overall themes (that) don't gibe with any other serious accounts of Clinton's life."
Even Fox Guests Say Ed Klein Isn't Credible -- So Why Can't The Network Stop Talking About His Book? | Media Matters for America
Professional Hack: A Review Of Ed Klein's* The Amateur | Media Matters for America
More: Edward Kleins Invective-Laden Obama Book - The New York TimesThe books foreign policy complaints are noisier, especially on what it calls Mr. Obamas Jewish problem. Mr. Klein had no trouble finding angry on-the-record complaints about this administrations treatment of Israel. He raises questions about whether Mr. Obamas attempts at an evenhanded approach to the Arab world has reduced American influence there. And while carefully steering clear of the Bush administrations foreign policy record, he accuses the president of botched, inconsistent handling of the tumultuous Arab Spring.
This is spot on...
Read...
What do historians really think of Obama? | Fox News.
Liberals will not read this because it's found on the foxnews.com website. Or they will read it and instantly show a wide range of emotions. From dismissive to down right furious anger.
That does not make this man's views any less correct.
Well, it's pure bullshit for several reasons:
1. It's Fox News - and was written by Ed Klein (he's an Obama smear merchant).
2. Not even one live source link.
3. Obama hasn't even completed one term in office.
Historians are named. Look it up.
Imagine a president who wants to have dinner with historians rather than GOP oil barrons. No wonder Fox News is so upset
What next? Scientists?
Well, it's pure bullshit for several reasons:
1. It's Fox News - and was written by Ed Klein (he's an Obama smear merchant).
2. Not even one live source link.
3. Obama hasn't even completed one term in office.
Historians are named. Look it up.
What have they "officially" written as "historians" on Obama's tenure in office thus far?
History will not be kind to today's Republican Party. Extremist, obstructive, uncompromising they will go down as a force that brought the country to it's knees and then fought like hell to keep it there
A prime example of why it's ridiculous to try and judge a President or a party of today now. You assume history will share your view of Republicans I could make the same kind of claim about how history will view the Democratic party and it would be no more true or accurate than your view. We have no idea how history will view any one person or party and us thinking we know does not make it so.
There are some historical benchmarks one can go to, to do a quick and dirty analysis.
Clinton's republicans were pretty obstructionist as well..so much so..they closed down government and impeached him.
Thus far..history has been far kinder to Clinton..then his congress.
It's way to early to tell what history will say. Normally history has some historical perspective after a minimum of 50 years. How long did it take for FDR's New Deal to be judged a disaster or Joe McCarthy be proved right all along?
If Clinton is now thought of kindly and with some degree of nostalgia it's because obama has been such a disaster. Clinton had serious personal failings, but not everything he did was FUBAR. Not so with obama who is compared most often to Jimmy Carter.
You probably don't mind the White House rewriting the bios of former Presidents to fluff Obama, either.Imagine a president who wants to have dinner with historians rather than GOP oil barrons. No wonder Fox News is so upset
What next? Scientists?
Obama's history, sure.History will not be kind to today's Republican Party. Extremist, obstructive, uncompromising they will go down as a force that brought the country to it's knees and then fought like hell to keep it there
Klein's credibility is certainly at issue. Why wouldn't an information sources's credibility be relevant to the veracity of the information? Particularly since (in contrast to the meticulously cited Wikipedia article that some in this thread have criticized) Klein relies on a single anonymous source for his information. Worse, he relies on a source who had previously promised not to reveal the information (that is, we know he is dishonest). As Lakhota has noted, Klein's credibility is quite low.
And what does that information, if true, reveal about Obama? That he thinks some Congressmen are palookas? (who doesn't?) That Obama once considered using the phrase "New Foundation" to describe his program? That this one historian (as far as I can tell, Klein miscounts when he purports to reveal a consensus among multiple "historians") thinks that Obama has not communicated as well as that historian expected to? That this historian is not apparently willing to say so on the record?
I do not find that these "revelations" particularly inform an historical consensus about Obama. Of far greater significance to this is the survey (admittedly dated) of historians cited in Lakhota's link. It places Obama quite high. To those that claim that historians are in doubt only as to whether Obama or Carter is the worst president ever note that while Carter does not hold Obama's high ranking, among 20th and 21st century presidents Harding, Coolidge, Hoover, Nixon, and Bush II all rank below Carter. So while historians might hold Carter in the lowest esteem of all the Democratic presidents of his era, they still prefer him to the average Republican of his era.
To review: "Nothing like Fox etc bought off hacks..."
Most historians think that Obama inherited a bushian mess of monumental proportions and has not shown the almost superhuman ability necessary to cope with it.
