NotfooledbyW
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Do you worship God?And as you know, the USA was founded by people who believed in God for people who worshiped God.
I DONT. So you say America was not founded for me?
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Do you worship God?And as you know, the USA was founded by people who believed in God for people who worshiped God.
NFBW: I am not interested in who you liked in 2014. I was establishing that anti-Christian Jefferson would be absolutely aghast at the Trump Christian’s of today who are undermining freedom of conscience when they sieze the power to do so. END2210021455The letter I posted was posted before Trump became president or was running for president. Certainly when I posted I was all for Cruz and Trump did not come to mind at all.
by quoting my quote? anti christian jefferson? you have not established thatNFBW: I am not interested in who you liked in 2014. I was establishing that anti-Christian Jefferson would be absolutely aghast at the Trump Christian’s of today who are undermining freedom of conscience when they sieze the power to do so. END2210021455
Up until Obama decided to rid us of our foundation, we displayed the 10 commandments across the country to show our devotion to God as a nation...Who cares?
It makes us a nation founded by Christians but not a Christian nation
Does it matter when our Constitution says every religion can be practiced?I came across a couple of Youtube clips not long ago that were truly enlightening (for me at least). Like most products of the Public School (fool?) System I was kept in the dark concerning the USA's Christian roots. If we (young, impressionable students) were told anything we were told that Jefferson and Franklin were deists but not Christians.
I've come to find out that the two least Christian founders were still sympathetic to and allied with the many devout Christians who helped create the great nation of the United States of America and signed her important, founding documents.
Anyway, please watch these very short videos and let everyone know what you think.
[ame=[MEDIA=youtube]YwvkcXBNm3Q[/MEDIA] Huckabee David Barton Founders of the Constitution 080109.flv - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=[MEDIA=youtube]jzGdHZDXxKI[/MEDIA]. Capitol Tour with David Barton.flv - YouTube[/ame]
who are you, I dont know who you are, why dont you explain, are you liberal, believe in marxism? dont put words in my mouth posed as a questionDo you worship God?
I DONT. So you say America was not founded for me?
where is my comment? this was posted in response to what?NFBW: Here is the quote you pulled from the very end of the powerfully anti/Christian letter.
ELEKTRA140501-#129 “Why does Thomas Jefferson, state, "So much for your quotation of Calvin's `mon dieu! jusqu'a quand' in which, when addressed to the God of Jesus, and our God, I join you cordially, and await his time and will with more readiness than reluctance."
Are you asking If Jefferson is a typical sin and salvation Christian like our beloved Trump Christians of today because it appears in the paragraph above that Jefferson is telling Adams that he is waiting for Jesus and will be more ready than reluctant? END22101423
That was the courts, not ObamaUp until Obama decided to rid us of our foundation, we displayed the 10 commandments across the country to show our devotion to God as a nation...
why was that right, and of course it began decades before obamaThat was the courts, not Obama
Rightfully so
Up until Obama decided to rid us of our foundation, we displayed the 10 commandments across the country to show our devotion to God as a nation...
Up until Obama decided to rid us of our foundation, we displayed the 10 commandments across the country to show our devotion to God as a nation...
why was that right, and of course it began decades before obama
why was that right, and of course it began decades before obama
What is biased about the Ten Commandments?The 10 Commandments were removed from courthouses and courtrooms all over the country. And well they should have been. Courts must be impartial. The 10 Commandments has no business being displayed there.
What is biased about the Ten Commandments?
NFBW: You were responding to these two Jefferson quotes:where is my comment? this was posted in response to what?
thou shall not steal, murder, certainly that is shitty lawBecause the Ten Commandments makes for Shitty Law
explain how it is biased, biased against what?It was right because the court system has to be unbiased.
elektra
NFBW: You were responding to these two Jefferson quotes:
Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. -Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors. -Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823 Jefferson was ripping a new asshole in a nice way for the existing sin and salvation believers of Church Christianity to the 2nd President and you wonder why Jefferson said this after he wrote that.
ELEKTRA140501-#129 “Why does Thomas Jefferson, state, "So much for your quotation of Calvin's `mon dieu! jusqu'a quand' in which, when addressed to the God of Jesus, and our God, I join you cordially, and await his time and will with more readiness than reluctance."
NFBW: Do you believe Jefferson and Adam’s are Christians in any way? Do you consider them to be founding fathers of this great nation of ours where I can live absolutely free from all religion and object to Trump Christian’s who have absolutely no respect for the freedom of religion that Jefferson Adam’s and especially Madison envisioned for us. END2210021809
why did you set up this false premise,So elektra do you believe in and/or support the artificial scaffolding of the militant white half of American Catholicism and white Trump Republican evangelical Protestant nationalism that Jefferson and Adams hoped would die out but hasn’t yet.? END2210010232