We're losing Florida. What to do?

[rightwinger]

Guys, I'm worried that the libtards in Florida are poised to elect Andrew Gillum for Governor and reelect Bill Nelson for Senate.
What can we do to avoid this catastrophe? I'm nervous.

How about a little more cheating? Gerrymandering, starting elections with head starts, preventing left wing people from voting? You know, the usual stuff.

That is the way Republicans typically win elections
Voter suppression and fear mongering

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Guys, I'm worried that the libtards in Florida are poised to elect Andrew Gillum for Governor and reelect Bill Nelson for Senate.
What can we do to avoid this catastrophe? I'm nervous.

What is so catastrophic about electing democrats?

If that's the people's choice accept it and move on.

There is a good way to make sure republicans get elected. Put forward a platform that doesn't send people running from republicans in horror and stop lying.

I'm a registered Independent, like the majority of Independents these days, you've caused me to run from your party in horror.

I have already voted and voted straight democratic blue this year.

Then you are not an independent. The correct classification would be "moron".

Tell us something good for the average American that a Democrap has proposed?

 

[francoHFW]

Guys, I'm worried that the libtards in Florida are poised to elect Andrew Gillum for Governor and reelect Bill Nelson for Senate.
What can we do to avoid this catastrophe? I'm nervous.

What is so catastrophic about electing democrats?

If that's the people's choice accept it and move on.

There is a good way to make sure republicans get elected. Put forward a platform that doesn't send people running from republicans in horror and stop lying.

I'm a registered Independent, like the majority of Independents these days, you've caused me to run from your party in horror.

I have already voted and voted straight democratic blue this year.

Then you are not an independent. The correct classification would be "moron".

Tell us something good for the average American that a Democrap has proposed?

Well we could be like every other modern country and have Healthcare daycare living wage paid parental leave good infrastructure and vacations, cheap college and training for six million good jobs going begging, a national ID card to end illegal immigration, but all that would mean having our rich pay their fair share instead of the same percentage as everyone else like they do now basically. Great job scumbag GOP and silly Dupes like you. All of that has been proposed by democrats which of course you don't know...

 

[yiostheoy]

Guys, I'm worried that the libtards in Florida are poised to elect Andrew Gillum for Governor and reelect Bill Nelson for Senate.
What can we do to avoid this catastrophe? I'm nervous.

Not just that.

But Ted Cruz has been such a fokk up in Texas that it too may be lost by the GOP to the DEM's as well.

Two years ago I predicted that the U.S. House would go to Nancy Pelosi and that the Senate would be very close, maybe even tied.

We'll see in 2 more weeks.

 

[busybee01]

I think Gillum will win because DeSantis is too closely tied to Trump. Gillum nailed DeSantis when he pointed out racists are supporting DeSantis. One reason it could happen is a desire to end one party rule in Florida. It would require Gillum to move to the right and the Republican legislature to move to the left to meet in the center.

I do think that Nelson will beat Scott.

You know Bee, I haven't put you on ignore because you were funny to watch, flailing about in your pathetic attempts to defend the indefensible of the leftists you support. But now you are turning into one of the dumbest excuse for a human being I have ever encountered. You don't have the sense to poor piss out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel. Why don't you do us all a favor and smash your computer/cell phone into tiny little pieces so that people will not realize what a POS your lousy opinions cast you to be?

Alpha Mike Foxtrot!

You are not worth the time it takes to put you on ignore. You are a part of the pathetic alt-right. You are nothing but garbage as you apparently have no trouble with Trumpies who commit violence and threaten people. Right wing militias killed hundreds at the federal building. Apparently you are okay with the shooting up of a Baltimore newsroom, death threats to Senators who vote no on Kavanaugh and protestors attacked at Trump rallies to name a few. You falsely accuse Democrats of things but it is not your fault when someone acts on those violently. I will continue to express my opinion so you can go back to sticking your tongue up Trump's ass.

 

[jc456]

Guys, I'm worried that the libtards in Florida are poised to elect Andrew Gillum for Governor and reelect Bill Nelson for Senate.
What can we do to avoid this catastrophe? I'm nervous.

ahh dude, that's all bullshit. no worries. none at all. they're polling the shit out of there because Gillum is so far behind. just know that.

 

[2aguy]

Guys, I'm worried that the libtards in Florida are poised to elect Andrew Gillum for Governor and reelect Bill Nelson for Senate.
What can we do to avoid this catastrophe? I'm nervous.

Vote.

Post on social media and get friends and family to vote.

Talk to people you meet, and tell them who and what gallium is...you don't need a socialist destroying the economy of Florida...

 

[busybee01]

Lot of PR 'refugees' squatting in Florida, thanks to their own corrupt govt, and tlike all 'refugees' they want to turn their new 'refuges' into the same shitholes they left, and they can vote in Florida's elections as well, so naturally they will go Democrat.

They shouldn't be able to vote here. I believe they're concentrated in counties that would be blue, anyway.

I.E.

Dade-Broward, and Hillsborough.

Gillium will get some black votes, he's a smoooooooth-talker. Smoother than Obama, even.

They should be able to vote in Florida if they want to. Governor and Senator are statewide so it doesn't matter where they vote.

 

[jc456]

I think Gillum will win because DeSantis is too closely tied to Trump. Gillum nailed DeSantis when he pointed out racists are supporting DeSantis. One reason it could happen is a desire to end one party rule in Florida. It would require Gillum to move to the right and the Republican legislature to move to the left to meet in the center.

I do think that Nelson will beat Scott.

You know Bee, I haven't put you on ignore because you were funny to watch, flailing about in your pathetic attempts to defend the indefensible of the leftists you support. But now you are turning into one of the dumbest excuse for a human being I have ever encountered. You don't have the sense to poor piss out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel. Why don't you do us all a favor and smash your computer/cell phone into tiny little pieces so that people will not realize what a POS your lousy opinions cast you to be?

Alpha Mike Foxtrot!

You are not worth the time it takes to put you on ignore. You are a part of the pathetic alt-right. You are nothing but garbage as you apparently have no trouble with Trumpies who commit violence and threaten people. Right wing militias killed hundreds at the federal building. Apparently you are okay with the shooting up of a Baltimore newsroom, death threats to Senators who vote no on Kavanaugh and protestors attacked at Trump rallies to name a few. You falsely accuse Democrats of things but it is not your fault when someone acts on those violently. I will continue to express my opinion so you can go back to sticking your tongue up Trump's ass.

more faked news.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Guys, I'm worried that the libtards in Florida are poised to elect Andrew Gillum for Governor and reelect Bill Nelson for Senate.
What can we do to avoid this catastrophe? I'm nervous.

Don't worry. Gillum is self destructing.

I don't know about Nelson. He is the biggest scumbucket in Florida.

That title belongs to Jeb Bush!

 

[westwall]

Guys, I'm worried that the libtards in Florida are poised to elect Andrew Gillum for Governor and reelect Bill Nelson for Senate.
What can we do to avoid this catastrophe? I'm nervous.

How about a little more cheating? Gerrymandering, starting elections with head starts, preventing left wing people from voting? You know, the usual stuff.

That is the way Republicans typically win elections
Voter suppression and fear mongering

As opposed to you progressives importing millions of illegals to pad your voter roles.

 

[busybee01]

Guys, I'm worried that the libtards in Florida are poised to elect Andrew Gillum for Governor and reelect Bill Nelson for Senate.
What can we do to avoid this catastrophe? I'm nervous.

Vote.

Post on social media and get friends and family to vote.

Talk to people you meet, and tell them who and what gallium is...you don't need a socialist destroying the economy of Florida...

You are so ridiculous. A Republican legislature and a Democrat Governor will force everybody to the center.

 

[edward37]

a republican looking to bomb all trumps enemies isn't going to help

 

[Care4all]

Guys, I'm worried that the libtards in Florida are poised to elect Andrew Gillum for Governor and reelect Bill Nelson for Senate.
What can we do to avoid this catastrophe? I'm nervous.

Don't worry. Gillum is self destructing.

I don't know about Nelson. He is the biggest scumbucket in Florida.

I got told about Nelson today. He's never worked a day in his life. Most Americans aren't going to vote for a Communist, not even one that's more silvery tongued and slick than Obama.

That Gillium puts on a good speech, but he's got Tallahassee halfway to being a shithole.

I already know who to vote for, just gotta dig into them damn propositions. They should make them word those in plain English, not doublespeak.


Andrew Gillum’s Former Chief of Staff: “Tallahassee had the Highest Number of Murders in History Last Year” – Tallahassee Reports

FYI, although he had a spike in 2016 in crime, last year crime was at lower levels than when he was hired in 2014.... Tallahassee has a lower crime rate than the once lovely, but Hurricane destroyed, Mexico City.

By Brendan Farrington | AP
October 23
During the first Florida gubernatorial debate between Republican former U.S. Rep. Ron DeSantis and Democratic Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum, DeSantis repeatedly said Gillum presides over a city that has the highest crime rate in the state. Crime statistics show that claim to be incorrect. Gillum countered that Tallahassee is at a five-year low in crime.


Crime has become a talking point for DeSantis and Republicans as they try to knock down Gillum’s momentum. The two also talked about differences on health care, taxes and guns. Gillum is trying to become the first Democrat to be elected Florida governor since 1994 and Republicans have had full control of state government since 1999. Florida is also the largest state that can swing either way in a presidential election, and the next Florida governor will be in a position to help or hurt his party’s nominee in the 2020 presidential election.


Here’s a look at the claims:


DESANTIS: “Under Mayor Gillum’s leadership Tallahassee is the most crime-ridden city in the entire state of Florida.” --October 22, 2018 debate


THE FACTS: DeSantis is wrong. Tallahassee is not even in the top 25 when it comes to city per-capita crime rates in Florida. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement reports that Tallahassee had 5,765 crimes per 100,000 people in 2017.


By comparison, the city with the highest rate, Medley, had 28,004 crimes per 100,000 people, followed by Mangonia Park (14,215 crimes per 100,000 people), Chiefland (10,132 crimes per 100,000 people), Florida City (9,572 crimes per 100,000 people) and Lake Park (9,324 crimes per 100,000 people).


Tourist destinations like Miami Beach (9,149 crimes per 100,000 people), Orlando, (6,291 crimes per 100,000 people), Fort Lauderdale (6,187 crimes per 100,000 people), and Daytona Beach (6,965 crimes per 100,000 people) also topped Tallahassee.


Even Mexico Beach, the quiet beach town recently devastated by Hurricane Michael, had a higher crime rate than Tallahassee, with 6,572 crimes per 100,000 people. The same can be said of neighboring Panama City (7,256 crimes per 100,000 people).


Also, what isn’t factored into Tallahassee’s crime rate is the college population. Tallahassee has a population of 191,049 people. But it is also home to Florida State University and Florida A&M University, which combined have more than 42,000 students. Students from other cities and states who don’t list Tallahassee as a permanent residence aren’t included in the population when calculating crime statistics; however, crimes they might commit or be victims of would be included.


Similarly, Gainesville, home to the University of Florida, had a crime rate of 4,414 per 100,000 people, also far above the state average of 3,181 per 100,000 people.


Tallahassee is part of Leon County, which has the most crimes per capita out of the state’s counties, with a rate of 4,802 crimes per 100,000 last year. That’s because Tallahassee makes up the bulk of the county’s population, and the density pushes up the county’s overall crime rate.

AP FACT CHECK: DeSantis wrong on Tallahassee crime rate

 

[Staidhup]

One must admit after reading posts on this web site that it is safe to conclude expressions of such vitriol, hate, disrespect,and divisiveness directly parallels everyday society and thus stands to reason that someone, without hope, on the edge of insanity, lacking the means of constructive expression, would eventually escalate anger and frustration to a whole new level. A sad testament to what we have become, a sad reflection on the American spirit, most importantly the ability to agree we can disagree in a civil, constructive, and respectful manner.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Guys, I'm worried that the libtards in Florida are poised to elect Andrew Gillum for Governor and reelect Bill Nelson for Senate.
What can we do to avoid this catastrophe? I'm nervous.

Don't worry. Gillum is self destructing.

I don't know about Nelson. He is the biggest scumbucket in Florida.

I got told about Nelson today. He's never worked a day in his life. Most Americans aren't going to vote for a Communist, not even one that's more silvery tongued and slick than Obama.

That Gillium puts on a good speech, but he's got Tallahassee halfway to being a shithole.

I already know who to vote for, just gotta dig into them damn propositions. They should make them word those in plain English, not doublespeak.


Andrew Gillum’s Former Chief of Staff: “Tallahassee had the Highest Number of Murders in History Last Year” – Tallahassee Reports

FYI, although he had a spike in 2016 in crime, last year crime was at lower levels than when he was hired in 2014.... Tallahassee has a lower crime rate than the once lovely, but Hurricane destroyed, Mexico City.

By Brendan Farrington | AP
October 23
During the first Florida gubernatorial debate between Republican former U.S. Rep. Ron DeSantis and Democratic Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum, DeSantis repeatedly said Gillum presides over a city that has the highest crime rate in the state. Crime statistics show that claim to be incorrect. Gillum countered that Tallahassee is at a five-year low in crime.


Crime has become a talking point for DeSantis and Republicans as they try to knock down Gillum’s momentum. The two also talked about differences on health care, taxes and guns. Gillum is trying to become the first Democrat to be elected Florida governor since 1994 and Republicans have had full control of state government since 1999. Florida is also the largest state that can swing either way in a presidential election, and the next Florida governor will be in a position to help or hurt his party’s nominee in the 2020 presidential election.


Here’s a look at the claims:


DESANTIS: “Under Mayor Gillum’s leadership Tallahassee is the most crime-ridden city in the entire state of Florida.” --October 22, 2018 debate


THE FACTS: DeSantis is wrong. Tallahassee is not even in the top 25 when it comes to city per-capita crime rates in Florida. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement reports that Tallahassee had 5,765 crimes per 100,000 people in 2017.


By comparison, the city with the highest rate, Medley, had 28,004 crimes per 100,000 people, followed by Mangonia Park (14,215 crimes per 100,000 people), Chiefland (10,132 crimes per 100,000 people), Florida City (9,572 crimes per 100,000 people) and Lake Park (9,324 crimes per 100,000 people).


Tourist destinations like Miami Beach (9,149 crimes per 100,000 people), Orlando, (6,291 crimes per 100,000 people), Fort Lauderdale (6,187 crimes per 100,000 people), and Daytona Beach (6,965 crimes per 100,000 people) also topped Tallahassee.


Even Mexico Beach, the quiet beach town recently devastated by Hurricane Michael, had a higher crime rate than Tallahassee, with 6,572 crimes per 100,000 people. The same can be said of neighboring Panama City (7,256 crimes per 100,000 people).


Also, what isn’t factored into Tallahassee’s crime rate is the college population. Tallahassee has a population of 191,049 people. But it is also home to Florida State University and Florida A&M University, which combined have more than 42,000 students. Students from other cities and states who don’t list Tallahassee as a permanent residence aren’t included in the population when calculating crime statistics; however, crimes they might commit or be victims of would be included.


Similarly, Gainesville, home to the University of Florida, had a crime rate of 4,414 per 100,000 people, also far above the state average of 3,181 per 100,000 people.


Tallahassee is part of Leon County, which has the most crimes per capita out of the state’s counties, with a rate of 4,802 crimes per 100,000 last year. That’s because Tallahassee makes up the bulk of the county’s population, and the density pushes up the county’s overall crime rate.

AP FACT CHECK: DeSantis wrong on Tallahassee crime rate

That in no way means any American Floridian should vote for a silver-tongued Communist.

 

[Siete]

We're losing Florida. What to do?


kiss republicans controlling the government adios - Florida is just a start

 

[HaShev]

You gotta remember the polls might be skewed with all the primarilly republican crowd in the panhandle scattered from the storm. Hopefully mail in votes will allow those numbers not to be missed.

 

[Marion Morrison]

We're losing Florida. What to do?


kiss republicans controlling the government adios - Florida is just a start

Saved for after midterms.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

Guys, I'm worried that the libtards in Florida are poised to elect Andrew Gillum for Governor and reelect Bill Nelson for Senate.
What can we do to avoid this catastrophe? I'm nervous.

You are lucky, Fla has the recall election that Citizens can use to recall the elected officials after they are elected. Don't like it do it.