‘We will exterminate you’: Proud Boys and other right-wing Trump diehards confront counter-protesters at Raleigh rally

Whooo Boy! That is some seriously clumsy rationale there! As if violence has any legitimate place in political discourse!
I agree. So... Why did democrat governors support what was happening in Portland?
 
Whooo Boy! That is some seriously clumsy rationale there! As if violence has any legitimate place in political discourse!
I agree. So... Why did democrat governors support what was happening in Portland?
You pose that question in the form of a lie. Governors support the right to protest and the reason for the protests. No governors, however, support riots and violence.
 
You pose that question in the form of a lie. Governors support the right to protest and the reason for the protests. No governors, however, support riots and violence.
Really? So... You didn't have a governor standing with said protesters after they tried burning down a federal building for... Months. Am I getting that right?

Maybe it was the democrat mayor. I could have my facts wrong here. Possible. Point is the same.
 
You pose that question in the form of a lie. Governors support the right to protest and the reason for the protests. No governors, however, support riots and violence.
Really? So... You didn't have a governor standing with said protesters after they tried burning down a federal building for... Months. Am I getting that right?

Maybe it was the democrat mayor. I could have my facts wrong here. Possible. Point is the same.
It's hard to delegitimize the entire purpose of the message of a protest because a very few in that protest set a fire.
 
Right wingers, Tell us again which side promotes and incites the violence.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

Bertino wore a patch with the letters “R-W-D-S” — short for “right-wing death squads.” Mass killing of political opponents is a theme widely promoted by Proud Boys and other far-right extremists who celebrate Chilean dictator Augosto Pinochet’s grisly practice during the 1970s of disappearing opposition activists by dropping them out of helicopters.

That's what you do to people who beat elderly, abuse children, and attack the weak.....you exterminate them. It's what they need....notice the Proud boys are not going after the children of these miscreants....they are calling out the cowardly adults.

JO
Red Herring, Non Sequitur, false equivalency and appeal to hypocrisy logical fallacy. Deal with the issue. No matter what you come up with as far as what the left may or may not be guilty of, it in no way refutes or mitigates what Trump is doing

nope......not a red herring.....at all....


on the other hand...no sign of antifa or BLM here..... hmmmm

View attachment 423862

I guess they would rather push kids around.....threaten lonely women in numbers of fifty to one......and bully old people.....but nope....even though BlM and Antifa are present here in this pic....they stay far away.....

EXTYERMNATE THEM YES....and these are just the guys to do it too.

JO
Clearly you do not have the slightest understanding of what a Red Herring, Non Sequitur, false equivalency and appeal to hypocrisy logical fallacies are. I made the case that the Proud Boys are advocating and inciting violence. You have not refuted that. Instead, you prove examples - real or not- about how the left is violent. That is not an argument that addresses or refutes my conclusion . It is a distraction. Its is all a logical fallacy.


The primary tactic of the Proud Boys has been to march in your lefty strongholds, with the intent of saying something you people don't like.


Most of the time, barring strong police presence, you lefties have reacted like the Marxist goons you are, and violently attack them and then they defend themselves.


Self defense against mob violence is a GOOD THING. That you would rather the mob silence your enemies, is you being a tyrant.
You are just blathering right wing rhetoric without providing any evidence for it. And don't bother with anecdotal examples to prove you point. Show us patterns of hoe=w it is the left that is violent and that you guys are the victims



So, any example I show, will be dismissed as anecdotal. THe only bar you will accept, or that you are pretending you will accept is if I do a statistical analysis of ALL Proud Boy events.


Sorry, I don't have the ability to do that. And if I did, the time.


AND if I did invest the time, you would still find some excuse to stonewall.

So, no. FUCK OFF.
 
Right wingers, Tell us again which side promotes and incites the violence.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

Bertino wore a patch with the letters “R-W-D-S” — short for “right-wing death squads.” Mass killing of political opponents is a theme widely promoted by Proud Boys and other far-right extremists who celebrate Chilean dictator Augosto Pinochet’s grisly practice during the 1970s of disappearing opposition activists by dropping them out of helicopters.


So, how many buildings were burned down? How many cops beaten or shot? How many elderly men and women, sitting in a bar were terrorized and robbed?
Is that how you justify political terror? Is this a mature and sane rationalization?

It smacks of moral relativism. If you are triggered by protest, how can you justify death threats?


The Proud Boys have not been practicing political terror. They have been fighting against it, as practiced by you people.
Whooo Boy! That is some seriously clumsy rationale there! As if violence has any legitimate place in political discourse!


The distinction between an attacker and someone defending themselves is not a "clumsy rationale" at all.


And for a dem, at this time to whine about violence in political discourse, is pathetic.
 
It's hard to delegitimize the entire purpose of the message of a protest because a very few in that protest set a fire.
Very few? I'll agree that not all of them were trying to set said fire. However if they support it, it's the same thing. Especially if they are trying to hide said individuals.

And make no mistake... I have no intention or WANT to delegitimize the movement of black lives matter. I DO want to delegitimize the Black Lives Matter organization, which gets fools to support a good thing to an organization that isn't even close to what it claims.
 
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Right wingers, Tell us again which side promotes and incites the violence.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

Bertino wore a patch with the letters “R-W-D-S” — short for “right-wing death squads.” Mass killing of political opponents is a theme widely promoted by Proud Boys and other far-right extremists who celebrate Chilean dictator Augosto Pinochet’s grisly practice during the 1970s of disappearing opposition activists by dropping them out of helicopters.

That's what you do to people who beat elderly, abuse children, and attack the weak.....you exterminate them. It's what they need....notice the Proud boys are not going after the children of these miscreants....they are calling out the cowardly adults.

JO
Red Herring, Non Sequitur, false equivalency and appeal to hypocrisy logical fallacy. Deal with the issue. No matter what you come up with as far as what the left may or may not be guilty of, it in no way refutes or mitigates what Trump is doing

nope......not a red herring.....at all....


on the other hand...no sign of antifa or BLM here..... hmmmm

View attachment 423862

I guess they would rather push kids around.....threaten lonely women in numbers of fifty to one......and bully old people.....but nope....even though BlM and Antifa are present here in this pic....they stay far away.....

EXTYERMNATE THEM YES....and these are just the guys to do it too.

JO
Clearly you do not have the slightest understanding of what a Red Herring, Non Sequitur, false equivalency and appeal to hypocrisy logical fallacies are. I made the case that the Proud Boys are advocating and inciting violence. You have not refuted that. Instead, you prove examples - real or not- about how the left is violent. That is not an argument that addresses or refutes my conclusion . It is a distraction. Its is all a logical fallacy.


The primary tactic of the Proud Boys has been to march in your lefty strongholds, with the intent of saying something you people don't like.


Most of the time, barring strong police presence, you lefties have reacted like the Marxist goons you are, and violently attack them and then they defend themselves.


Self defense against mob violence is a GOOD THING. That you would rather the mob silence your enemies, is you being a tyrant.
You are just blathering right wing rhetoric without providing any evidence for it. And don't bother with anecdotal examples to prove you point. Show us patterns of hoe=w it is the left that is violent and that you guys are the victims



So, any example I show, will be dismissed as anecdotal. THe only bar you will accept, or that you are pretending you will accept is if I do a statistical analysis of ALL Proud Boy events.


Sorry, I don't have the ability to do that. And if I did, the time.


AND if I did invest the time, you would still find some excuse to stonewall.

So, no. FUCK OFF.
Thank you for admitting that you have no actual case and that you are too lazy and inept to develop one.
 
Right wingers, Tell us again which side promotes and incites the violence.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

Bertino wore a patch with the letters “R-W-D-S” — short for “right-wing death squads.” Mass killing of political opponents is a theme widely promoted by Proud Boys and other far-right extremists who celebrate Chilean dictator Augosto Pinochet’s grisly practice during the 1970s of disappearing opposition activists by dropping them out of helicopters.
Communists should be scared. We’re Americans and we won’t let communists destroy our nation.
 
Right wingers, Tell us again which side promotes and incites the violence.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

Bertino wore a patch with the letters “R-W-D-S” — short for “right-wing death squads.” Mass killing of political opponents is a theme widely promoted by Proud Boys and other far-right extremists who celebrate Chilean dictator Augosto Pinochet’s grisly practice during the 1970s of disappearing opposition activists by dropping them out of helicopters.

That's what you do to people who beat elderly, abuse children, and attack the weak.....you exterminate them. It's what they need....notice the Proud boys are not going after the children of these miscreants....they are calling out the cowardly adults.

JO
Red Herring, Non Sequitur, false equivalency and appeal to hypocrisy logical fallacy. Deal with the issue. No matter what you come up with as far as what the left may or may not be guilty of, it in no way refutes or mitigates what Trump is doing

nope......not a red herring.....at all....


on the other hand...no sign of antifa or BLM here..... hmmmm

View attachment 423862

I guess they would rather push kids around.....threaten lonely women in numbers of fifty to one......and bully old people.....but nope....even though BlM and Antifa are present here in this pic....they stay far away.....

EXTYERMNATE THEM YES....and these are just the guys to do it too.

JO
Clearly you do not have the slightest understanding of what a Red Herring, Non Sequitur, false equivalency and appeal to hypocrisy logical fallacies are. I made the case that the Proud Boys are advocating and inciting violence. You have not refuted that. Instead, you prove examples - real or not- about how the left is violent. That is not an argument that addresses or refutes my conclusion . It is a distraction. Its is all a logical fallacy.


The primary tactic of the Proud Boys has been to march in your lefty strongholds, with the intent of saying something you people don't like.


Most of the time, barring strong police presence, you lefties have reacted like the Marxist goons you are, and violently attack them and then they defend themselves.


Self defense against mob violence is a GOOD THING. That you would rather the mob silence your enemies, is you being a tyrant.
You are just blathering right wing rhetoric without providing any evidence for it. And don't bother with anecdotal examples to prove you point. Show us patterns of hoe=w it is the left that is violent and that you guys are the victims



So, any example I show, will be dismissed as anecdotal. THe only bar you will accept, or that you are pretending you will accept is if I do a statistical analysis of ALL Proud Boy events.


Sorry, I don't have the ability to do that. And if I did, the time.


AND if I did invest the time, you would still find some excuse to stonewall.

So, no. FUCK OFF.
Thank you for admitting that you have no actual case and that you are too lazy and inept to develop one.
What exactly is it that you disagree with Turtlesoup | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum ? Do you have a case to make?
 
Right wingers, Tell us again which side promotes and incites the violence.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

Bertino wore a patch with the letters “R-W-D-S” — short for “right-wing death squads.” Mass killing of political opponents is a theme widely promoted by Proud Boys and other far-right extremists who celebrate Chilean dictator Augosto Pinochet’s grisly practice during the 1970s of disappearing opposition activists by dropping them out of helicopters.
Communists should be scared. We’re Americans and we won’t let communists destroy our nation.
Where are the commies. Under your bed? Get a fucking grip. This is not 1950 although I fear that is where you brain is.
 
Right wingers, Tell us again which side promotes and incites the violence.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

Bertino wore a patch with the letters “R-W-D-S” — short for “right-wing death squads.” Mass killing of political opponents is a theme widely promoted by Proud Boys and other far-right extremists who celebrate Chilean dictator Augosto Pinochet’s grisly practice during the 1970s of disappearing opposition activists by dropping them out of helicopters.
Communists should be scared. We’re Americans and we won’t let communists destroy our nation.
Where are the commies. Under your bed? Get a fucking grip. This is not 1950 although I fear that is where you brain is.
Compare the 1950’s communist talking points to that of you Regressive Traitors. It’s one and the same. You can call yourself progressive, liberal, or anything else. You’re a socialist, which is the basis of communism.
 
Right wingers, Tell us again which side promotes and incites the violence.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

Bertino wore a patch with the letters “R-W-D-S” — short for “right-wing death squads.” Mass killing of political opponents is a theme widely promoted by Proud Boys and other far-right extremists who celebrate Chilean dictator Augosto Pinochet’s grisly practice during the 1970s of disappearing opposition activists by dropping them out of helicopters.

That's what you do to people who beat elderly, abuse children, and attack the weak.....you exterminate them. It's what they need....notice the Proud boys are not going after the children of these miscreants....they are calling out the cowardly adults.

JO
Red Herring, Non Sequitur, false equivalency and appeal to hypocrisy logical fallacy. Deal with the issue. No matter what you come up with as far as what the left may or may not be guilty of, it in no way refutes or mitigates what Trump is doing

nope......not a red herring.....at all....


on the other hand...no sign of antifa or BLM here..... hmmmm

View attachment 423862

I guess they would rather push kids around.....threaten lonely women in numbers of fifty to one......and bully old people.....but nope....even though BlM and Antifa are present here in this pic....they stay far away.....

EXTYERMNATE THEM YES....and these are just the guys to do it too.

JO
Clearly you do not have the slightest understanding of what a Red Herring, Non Sequitur, false equivalency and appeal to hypocrisy logical fallacies are. I made the case that the Proud Boys are advocating and inciting violence. You have not refuted that. Instead, you prove examples - real or not- about how the left is violent. That is not an argument that addresses or refutes my conclusion . It is a distraction. Its is all a logical fallacy.


The primary tactic of the Proud Boys has been to march in your lefty strongholds, with the intent of saying something you people don't like.


Most of the time, barring strong police presence, you lefties have reacted like the Marxist goons you are, and violently attack them and then they defend themselves.


Self defense against mob violence is a GOOD THING. That you would rather the mob silence your enemies, is you being a tyrant.
You are just blathering right wing rhetoric without providing any evidence for it. And don't bother with anecdotal examples to prove you point. Show us patterns of hoe=w it is the left that is violent and that you guys are the victims



So, any example I show, will be dismissed as anecdotal. THe only bar you will accept, or that you are pretending you will accept is if I do a statistical analysis of ALL Proud Boy events.


Sorry, I don't have the ability to do that. And if I did, the time.


AND if I did invest the time, you would still find some excuse to stonewall.

So, no. FUCK OFF.
Thank you for admitting that you have no actual case and that you are too lazy and inept to develop one.


LOL!!! Fuck you you troll. You demand an academic study from me, knowing full well that you would dismiss any data I produced regardless of how strong of a case it made.
 
Right wingers, Tell us again which side promotes and incites the violence.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

Bertino wore a patch with the letters “R-W-D-S” — short for “right-wing death squads.” Mass killing of political opponents is a theme widely promoted by Proud Boys and other far-right extremists who celebrate Chilean dictator Augosto Pinochet’s grisly practice during the 1970s of disappearing opposition activists by dropping them out of helicopters.


So, how many buildings were burned down? How many cops beaten or shot? How many elderly men and women, sitting in a bar were terrorized and robbed?

This is a local story for me
Nothing happened
Some folks stood on one side of the street,others on the other side.
It looked like a game of Red Rover, with no one exactly going over.
Didn't even know that it happened until later
 
“America will never be a communist nation — never!” Bertino said as fellow Proud Boys lined the sidewalk wearing tactical vests and trademark yellow and black gear. “Your side will lose. We will exterminate you like the rats you are…. Exterminate you!”

Communism, with the constant treason and heartbreaking betrayal of its false camaraderie, has to be done away with.
The way of life the communists are forcing on us against our will, we cannot tolerate, and we do not want to live.
Jesus fucking Christ. We on the left are not advocating communism! Are you really that stupid?
You just can't bring yourselves to say you support communism. Instead you say Democratic Socialism like putting lipstick on the pigs which you are.

While simultaneously not knowing what Socialism is.
 
“America will never be a communist nation — never!” Bertino said as fellow Proud Boys lined the sidewalk wearing tactical vests and trademark yellow and black gear. “Your side will lose. We will exterminate you like the rats you are…. Exterminate you!”

Communism, with the constant treason and heartbreaking betrayal of its false camaraderie, has to be done away with.
The way of life the communists are forcing on us against our will, we cannot tolerate, and we do not want to live.
Jesus fucking Christ. We on the left are not advocating communism! Are you really that stupid?
You just can't bring yourselves to say you support communism. Instead you say Democratic Socialism like putting lipstick on the pigs which you are.

While simultaneously not knowing what Socialism is.
Holly shit!! Let's just recap what is happening here
I called you out on your bullshit claim that the Sec. of State in Georgia is investigation frauf in the presidential election. A claim that you made without evidence
I point out that the election has been certified, further showing that your claim is absurd.
You tell me that I don't know what certification means
I school you on the meaning
You have nothing left, so hook up with another Trump boot licker to call me a communist and accuse me of not knowing what socialism is. Typical right wing tactics and another red herring fallacy
 
“America will never be a communist nation — never!” Bertino said as fellow Proud Boys lined the sidewalk wearing tactical vests and trademark yellow and black gear. “Your side will lose. We will exterminate you like the rats you are…. Exterminate you!”

Communism, with the constant treason and heartbreaking betrayal of its false camaraderie, has to be done away with.
The way of life the communists are forcing on us against our will, we cannot tolerate, and we do not want to live.
Jesus fucking Christ. We on the left are not advocating communism! Are you really that stupid?
You just can't bring yourselves to say you support communism. Instead you say Democratic Socialism like putting lipstick on the pigs which you are.

While simultaneously not knowing what Socialism is.
Holly shit!! Let's just recap what is happening here
I called you out on your bullshit claim that the Sec. of State in Georgia is investigation frauf in the presidential election. A claim that you made without evidence
I point out that the election has been certified, further showing that your claim is absurd.
You tell me that I don't know what certification means
I school you on the meaning
You have nothing left, so hook up with another Trump boot licker to call me a communist and accuse me of not knowing what socialism is. Typical right wing tactics and another red herring fallacy


None of that is actually true -
 
“America will never be a communist nation — never!” Bertino said as fellow Proud Boys lined the sidewalk wearing tactical vests and trademark yellow and black gear. “Your side will lose. We will exterminate you like the rats you are…. Exterminate you!”

Communism, with the constant treason and heartbreaking betrayal of its false camaraderie, has to be done away with.
The way of life the communists are forcing on us against our will, we cannot tolerate, and we do not want to live.
Jesus fucking Christ. We on the left are not advocating communism! Are you really that stupid?
You just can't bring yourselves to say you support communism. Instead you say Democratic Socialism like putting lipstick on the pigs which you are.

While simultaneously not knowing what Socialism is.
Holly shit!! Let's just recap what is happening here
I called you out on your bullshit claim that the Sec. of State in Georgia is investigation frauf in the presidential election. A claim that you made without evidence
I point out that the election has been certified, further showing that your claim is absurd.
You tell me that I don't know what certification means
I school you on the meaning
You have nothing left, so hook up with another Trump boot licker to call me a communist and accuse me of not knowing what socialism is. Typical right wing tactics and another red herring fallacy


None of that is actually true -
Right, and Biden didn't win
 
Right wingers, Tell us again which side promotes and incites the violence.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

A band of COVID deniers, neo-Confederates and pro-Trump diehards, augmented by a 50-strong Proud Boy security detail, marched around the Governor’s Mansion in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, firing up a far-right coalition to carry on the fight as their president faces the reality of leaving office.

Bertino wore a patch with the letters “R-W-D-S” — short for “right-wing death squads.” Mass killing of political opponents is a theme widely promoted by Proud Boys and other far-right extremists who celebrate Chilean dictator Augosto Pinochet’s grisly practice during the 1970s of disappearing opposition activists by dropping them out of helicopters.

Every father dreams that one day, their daughter will bring a Proud Boy home for dinner! :cool-45:

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