So Just Exactly What Makes a Group Far-Left or Far-Right?

[Oz and the Orchestra]

We

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

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Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

Very well done anyway, You are the first American that has actually gone out and done research to define what is left and right. 'z' Guy on the other hand refuses to accept what every dictionary is telling him, mainly - that-

Nazi's are 'Right' not 'Left' wing.
He tries to over emphasise the word Socialist' to define it. Like saying the word Company restricts you to acting in a exclusive way.

It is the word that proceeds 'Socialist' that defines it.

Soviet Socialist.-

NOUN

• 1An elected local, district, or national council in the former Soviet Union. Oxford Dict.

National Socialist.

NOUN

• 1A person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations. Oxford Dict.
  
  
• There were may Nations in the Soviet Umbrella because it is overtly internationalist.
• The opposite of Nationalist Nazi Germany that was inverted,singular and anti-internationalist.
• Thus 'left' and 'right' one the opposite of the other.

We all know the real reason for 'ZGuy's refusal to accept Nazi's are 'Right', is because he is an American 'right' winger
and (understandably) does not want to be associated with Nazi's.

Makes it very difficult to have a meaningful debate because the terns of reference are differnt when argueing with a Trumpster.

 

[progressive hunter]

We

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

Very well done anyway, You are the first American that has actually gone out and done research to define what is left and right. 'z' Guy on the other hand refuses to accept what every dictionary is telling him, mainly - that-

Nazi's are 'Right' not 'Left' wing.
He tries to over emphasise the word Socialist' to define it. Like saying the word Company restricts you to acting in a exclusive way.

It is the word that proceeds 'Socialist' that defines it.

Soviet Socialist.-

NOUN

• 1An elected local, district, or national council in the former Soviet Union. Oxford Dict.

National Socialist.

NOUN

• 1A person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations. Oxford Dict.
  
  
• There were may Nations in the Soviet Umbrella because it is overtly internationalist.
• The opposite of Nationalist Nazi Germany that was inverted,singular and anti-internationalist.
• Thus 'left' and 'right' one the opposite of the other.

We all know the real reason for 'ZGuy's refusal to accept Nazi's are 'Right', is because he is an American 'right' winger
and (understandably) does not want to be associated with Nazi's.

Makes it very difficult to have a meaningful debate because the terns of reference are differnt when argueing with a Trumpster.

that might be true in other countries but in the US the far right is no government or anarchy,,,

and wiki isnt a dictionary,,its a propaganda site,,

 

[Norman]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

Far-left : Difficulty identifying gender.

Far-right : American flag.

 

[JimBowie1958]

We

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

Very well done anyway, You are the first American that has actually gone out and done research to define what is left and right. 'z' Guy on the other hand refuses to accept what every dictionary is telling him, mainly - that-

Nazi's are 'Right' not 'Left' wing.
He tries to over emphasise the word Socialist' to define it. Like saying the word Company restricts you to acting in a exclusive way.

It is the word that proceeds 'Socialist' that defines it.

Soviet Socialist.-

NOUN

• 1An elected local, district, or national council in the former Soviet Union. Oxford Dict.

National Socialist.

NOUN

• 1A person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations. Oxford Dict.
  
  
• There were may Nations in the Soviet Umbrella because it is overtly internationalist.
• The opposite of Nationalist Nazi Germany that was inverted,singular and anti-internationalist.
• Thus 'left' and 'right' one the opposite of the other.

We all know the real reason for 'ZGuy's refusal to accept Nazi's are 'Right', is because he is an American 'right' winger
and (understandably) does not want to be associated with Nazi's.

Makes it very difficult to have a meaningful debate because the terns of reference are differnt when argueing with a Trumpster.

I disagree with you definitions, but at least you are in the range of rationality, though flawed.

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

We

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

Very well done anyway, You are the first American that has actually gone out and done research to define what is left and right. 'z' Guy on the other hand refuses to accept what every dictionary is telling him, mainly - that-

Nazi's are 'Right' not 'Left' wing.
He tries to over emphasise the word Socialist' to define it. Like saying the word Company restricts you to acting in a exclusive way.

It is the word that proceeds 'Socialist' that defines it.

Soviet Socialist.-

NOUN

• 1An elected local, district, or national council in the former Soviet Union. Oxford Dict.

National Socialist.

NOUN

• 1A person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations. Oxford Dict.
  
  
• There were may Nations in the Soviet Umbrella because it is overtly internationalist.
• The opposite of Nationalist Nazi Germany that was inverted,singular and anti-internationalist.
• Thus 'left' and 'right' one the opposite of the other.

We all know the real reason for 'ZGuy's refusal to accept Nazi's are 'Right', is because he is an American 'right' winger
and (understandably) does not want to be associated with Nazi's.

Makes it very difficult to have a meaningful debate because the terns of reference are differnt when argueing with a Trumpster.

that might be true in other countries but in the US the far right is no government or anarchy,,,

and wiki isnt a dictionary,,its a propaganda site,,

Can you name me were this Anarchist Government has ever existed?
It is rediculous and a contradiction in terms - By there very nature Anarchists can not form governments.

How is it everyone else in the world has the same definition of 'Left' & 'Right' but Yanks have it completely distorted.

 

[progressive hunter]

We

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

Very well done anyway, You are the first American that has actually gone out and done research to define what is left and right. 'z' Guy on the other hand refuses to accept what every dictionary is telling him, mainly - that-

Nazi's are 'Right' not 'Left' wing.
He tries to over emphasise the word Socialist' to define it. Like saying the word Company restricts you to acting in a exclusive way.

It is the word that proceeds 'Socialist' that defines it.

Soviet Socialist.-

NOUN

• 1An elected local, district, or national council in the former Soviet Union. Oxford Dict.

National Socialist.

NOUN

• 1A person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations. Oxford Dict.
  
  
• There were may Nations in the Soviet Umbrella because it is overtly internationalist.
• The opposite of Nationalist Nazi Germany that was inverted,singular and anti-internationalist.
• Thus 'left' and 'right' one the opposite of the other.

We all know the real reason for 'ZGuy's refusal to accept Nazi's are 'Right', is because he is an American 'right' winger
and (understandably) does not want to be associated with Nazi's.

Makes it very difficult to have a meaningful debate because the terns of reference are differnt when argueing with a Trumpster.

that might be true in other countries but in the US the far right is no government or anarchy,,,

and wiki isnt a dictionary,,its a propaganda site,,

Can you name me were this Anarchist Government has ever existed?
It is rediculous and a contradiction in terms - By there very nature Anarchists can not form governments.

How is it everyone else in the world has the same definition of 'Left' & 'Right' but Yanks have it completely distorted.

I never said one had been,,,

have you ever heard the term "THE AMERICAN EXPERIMENT"???

our founders created a whole new system,,

some of them wanted a king and some wanted no government,,the articles of confederation was an attempt at the smallest level they could think of and when it failed they returned and moved a little further left to our constitution,,,

so the american scale is from total government on the far left and no government on the far right with the constitution about in the middle,,,opinions vary if it favors left or right,,

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Nah... the links/description in the OP complicates it.
Far-left and Far-right lead to the same thing - dramatic wealth imbalance, fascism and intolerance that leads to severe punishment for stepping outside of the enforced thought.
In other words misery for 95% and luxury for 5%.

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

Nah... the links/description in the OP complicates it.
Far-left and Far-right lead to the same thing - dramatic wealth imbalance, fascism and intolerance that leads to severe punishment for stepping outside of the enforced thought.
In other words misery for 95% and luxury for 5%.

There is no such thing as the 'individual'.
Only the 'collective' has meaning.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

All it takes to "Far Right" is to disagree with ANYTHING a Prog says.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Nah... the links/description in the OP complicates it.
Far-left and Far-right lead to the same thing - dramatic wealth imbalance, fascism and intolerance that leads to severe punishment for stepping outside of the enforced thought.
In other words misery for 95% and luxury for 5%.

There is no such thing as the 'individual'.
Only the 'collective' has meaning.

Well of course. But I would think that was obvious.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Can you name me were this Anarchist Government has ever existed?

Somalia

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

Yes but it was quickly taken over and then that government challenged by Islamasists.

Anarchists can only destroy and create a vacuum for others to fill.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

youre right about the first part and wrong about the 2nd,,,

far right is no government,,

I didn't say it was.

What I am saying is the Left views ANYTHING that is Pro-America to be Far-Right Extremism.

I think this might be a vestige of having our media owned and controlled by Multinational corporations who see any form of nationalism as far right because it interferes with their plans for a world without national borders.


the Globalists will protect ANTIFA to attack Nationalists it would seem.

I suggest you look up the real definition of "Fascism" and not the crackpot screwball bastardization that the Rumpers have tried to label it with. You would find that the Corporations ARE the Nationalists because that's good for their business.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

To condemn leftists looting and burning we have to condemn peaceful protesters from the right. Yeah, sure Sport. Sure

There we go again. If it's a Right group, it's peaceful. No matter if they are running around intimidating people with guns or not and maybe taking pot shots. That's okay. But if it's a left wing peaceful march that is just carrying signs then that's a riot and looting.

I think I see a problem here and it's with you.

Rightwingers, leave the guns home, carry the signs and get your message out. Left wing, leave the bricks and bottles home, carry the signs and get your message out.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

IMO, there's actually a pretty salient reason to condemn the far left and not right wing groups like the Proud Boys or Patriot Prayer in the same way: When the right has a rally, if Antifa doesn't show up to fight with 'em, it's always peaceful.

The far lefties need no playmates to engage in violence. If they show up for a rally these days, something's getting burnt down.

 

[easyt65]

Being so hungry for power that you collude with our enemies and commit acts of treason, as Obama and Democrats have done and continue to do qualifies as 'Far Left' but should be plainly called what they are - traitors and enemies of the state.

 

[easyt65]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

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There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

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Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

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The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

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Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

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According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

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The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

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Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

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Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

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David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

To condemn leftists looting and burning we have to condemn peaceful protesters from the right. Yeah, sure Sport. Sure

There we go again. If it's a Right group, it's peaceful. No matter if they are running around intimidating people with guns or not and maybe taking pot shots. That's okay. But if it's a left wing peaceful march that is just carrying signs then that's a riot and looting.

I think I see a problem here and it's with you.

Rightwingers, leave the guns home, carry the signs and get your message out. Left wing, leave the bricks and bottles home, carry the signs and get your message out.

There YOU go again accusing others of doing / being what Democrats do / are...same 'ol same 'ol.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

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Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

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Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

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There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

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Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

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The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

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Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

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According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

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The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

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Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

To condemn leftists looting and burning we have to condemn peaceful protesters from the right. Yeah, sure Sport. Sure

There we go again. If it's a Right group, it's peaceful. No matter if they are running around intimidating people with guns or not and maybe taking pot shots. That's okay. But if it's a left wing peaceful march that is just carrying signs then that's a riot and looting.

I think I see a problem here and it's with you.

Rightwingers, leave the guns home, carry the signs and get your message out. Left wing, leave the bricks and bottles home, carry the signs and get your message out.

There YOU go again accusing others of doing / being what Democrats do / are...same 'ol same 'ol.

Yes, I do see the problem. And the problem is YOU.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[eagle1462010]