So Just Exactly What Makes a Group Far-Left or Far-Right?

[easyt65]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

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Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

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According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

To condemn leftists looting and burning we have to condemn peaceful protesters from the right. Yeah, sure Sport. Sure

There we go again. If it's a Right group, it's peaceful. No matter if they are running around intimidating people with guns or not and maybe taking pot shots. That's okay. But if it's a left wing peaceful march that is just carrying signs then that's a riot and looting.

I think I see a problem here and it's with you.

Rightwingers, leave the guns home, carry the signs and get your message out. Left wing, leave the bricks and bottles home, carry the signs and get your message out.

There YOU go again accusing others of doing / being what Democrats do / are...same 'ol same 'ol.

Yes, I do see the problem. And the problem is YOU.

You can lie to yourself all you want, but it is a waste of time on me or anyone else NOT extremely partisan.

 

[easyt65]

I remember a time when they hung / shot traitors...

 

[Mac1958]

I just don't understand how any person can just fervently believe in a party or candidate so much. I cannot relate in any way shape or form.

The only thing that I can think of is that their own personal identity or worth is somehow attached to that person or party. They just give themselves to them or it.

Some of the unconditional adoration I see today is simply a mystery. I just don't know how they can do it, or why they would want to.

Why would a person want to aggressively deny and avoid all negatives about a person, issue or group? I don't understand the point.

 

[gipper]

I just don't understand how any person can just fervently believe in a party or candidate so much. I cannot relate in any way shape or form.

I think it’s un-American. What’s American is believing fully and completely that politicians and the political party’s they belong to are crooks, liars, and thieves. Our default position should be all politicians are crooks.

 

[kaz]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

To condemn leftists looting and burning we have to condemn peaceful protesters from the right. Yeah, sure Sport. Sure

There we go again. If it's a Right group, it's peaceful. No matter if they are running around intimidating people with guns or not and maybe taking pot shots. That's okay. But if it's a left wing peaceful march that is just carrying signs then that's a riot and looting.

I think I see a problem here and it's with you.

Rightwingers, leave the guns home, carry the signs and get your message out. Left wing, leave the bricks and bottles home, carry the signs and get your message out.

You're a liar. If it's any group and they are peaceful it's fine. The peaceful left protesters are fine just like the peaceful right protesters.

The violent left protesters are not fine. There really aren't any right violent protesters in this country right now. It's the left that is rioting and looting. Not all of them, and the ones that don't are fine.

That's clearly what I said, asshole. Stop making up shit I didn't say

 

[kaz]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

To condemn leftists looting and burning we have to condemn peaceful protesters from the right. Yeah, sure Sport. Sure

There we go again. If it's a Right group, it's peaceful. No matter if they are running around intimidating people with guns or not and maybe taking pot shots. That's okay. But if it's a left wing peaceful march that is just carrying signs then that's a riot and looting.

I think I see a problem here and it's with you.

Rightwingers, leave the guns home, carry the signs and get your message out. Left wing, leave the bricks and bottles home, carry the signs and get your message out.

There YOU go again accusing others of doing / being what Democrats do / are...same 'ol same 'ol.

Yep, Rush Limbaugh pointed that out years ago. The left will constantly accuse others of what they are doing

 

[kaz]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

To condemn leftists looting and burning we have to condemn peaceful protesters from the right. Yeah, sure Sport. Sure

There we go again. If it's a Right group, it's peaceful. No matter if they are running around intimidating people with guns or not and maybe taking pot shots. That's okay. But if it's a left wing peaceful march that is just carrying signs then that's a riot and looting.

I think I see a problem here and it's with you.

Rightwingers, leave the guns home, carry the signs and get your message out. Left wing, leave the bricks and bottles home, carry the signs and get your message out.

There YOU go again accusing others of doing / being what Democrats do / are...same 'ol same 'ol.

Yes, I do see the problem. And the problem is YOU.

The problem is you making up shit then believing it

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

To condemn leftists looting and burning we have to condemn peaceful protesters from the right. Yeah, sure Sport. Sure

There we go again. If it's a Right group, it's peaceful. No matter if they are running around intimidating people with guns or not and maybe taking pot shots. That's okay. But if it's a left wing peaceful march that is just carrying signs then that's a riot and looting.

I think I see a problem here and it's with you.

Rightwingers, leave the guns home, carry the signs and get your message out. Left wing, leave the bricks and bottles home, carry the signs and get your message out.

You're a liar. If it's any group and they are peaceful it's fine. The peaceful left protesters are fine just like the peaceful right protesters.

The violent left protesters are not fine. There really aren't any right violent protesters in this country right now. It's the left that is rioting and looting. Not all of them, and the ones that don't are fine.

That's clearly what I said, asshole. Stop making up shit I didn't say

So you think it's okay that your ritwingnutjobers to intimitdate with firearms everyone around them. Well, then it's okay when the people they intend to intimidate their butts away. You think it's okay if one or two lefties are shot down by the rightwing. Well, you wanted a war, you just got one. brought to you by the Party of the Rump. You don't make the rules don't make them for the other side. You may be required to live by them yourself.

 

[kaz]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

To condemn leftists looting and burning we have to condemn peaceful protesters from the right. Yeah, sure Sport. Sure

There we go again. If it's a Right group, it's peaceful. No matter if they are running around intimidating people with guns or not and maybe taking pot shots. That's okay. But if it's a left wing peaceful march that is just carrying signs then that's a riot and looting.

I think I see a problem here and it's with you.

Rightwingers, leave the guns home, carry the signs and get your message out. Left wing, leave the bricks and bottles home, carry the signs and get your message out.

You're a liar. If it's any group and they are peaceful it's fine. The peaceful left protesters are fine just like the peaceful right protesters.

The violent left protesters are not fine. There really aren't any right violent protesters in this country right now. It's the left that is rioting and looting. Not all of them, and the ones that don't are fine.

That's clearly what I said, asshole. Stop making up shit I didn't say

So you think it's okay that your ritwingnutjobers to intimitdate with firearms everyone around them. Well, then it's okay when the people they intend to intimidate their butts away. You think it's okay if one or two lefties are shot down by the rightwing. Well, you wanted a war, you just got one. brought to you by the Party of the Rump. You don't make the rules don't make them for the other side. You may be required to live by them yourself.

So you're a mind reader. Sure you are ...

 

[eagle1462010]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

To condemn leftists looting and burning we have to condemn peaceful protesters from the right. Yeah, sure Sport. Sure

There we go again. If it's a Right group, it's peaceful. No matter if they are running around intimidating people with guns or not and maybe taking pot shots. That's okay. But if it's a left wing peaceful march that is just carrying signs then that's a riot and looting.

I think I see a problem here and it's with you.

Rightwingers, leave the guns home, carry the signs and get your message out. Left wing, leave the bricks and bottles home, carry the signs and get your message out.

You're a liar. If it's any group and they are peaceful it's fine. The peaceful left protesters are fine just like the peaceful right protesters.

The violent left protesters are not fine. There really aren't any right violent protesters in this country right now. It's the left that is rioting and looting. Not all of them, and the ones that don't are fine.

That's clearly what I said, asshole. Stop making up shit I didn't say

So you think it's okay that your ritwingnutjobers to intimitdate with firearms everyone around them. Well, then it's okay when the people they intend to intimidate their butts away. You think it's okay if one or two lefties are shot down by the rightwing. Well, you wanted a war, you just got one. brought to you by the Party of the Rump. You don't make the rules don't make them for the other side. You may be required to live by them yourself.

Burn Loot Murder..........and nothing more than Ragheads without a towel wrapped around their head...........

You will OBEY ME...........CONVERT TO ISLAM OR DIE............RAISE YOUR FIST OR DIE........CHANT WITH ME.

Bring your War........we have killed Ragheads before........these are now ragheads by another name.......We don't negotiate with TERRORISTS.

 

[CowboyTed]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

Wikipedia is wrong...nazism and fascism are left wing....they are different types of socialism, and socialism is a left wing economic system that puts the state in control of the means of production..........

Left wing is essentially believing that the state should have absolute power over all matters, economic, social, political, judicial....that the collective group outweighs the importance of the individual, and that the will of the collective should have the final say in all matters economic, social, political, judicial.....

Far Right? Gives power to individuals with an emphasis on individual freedom, personal liberty.....reducing the power and control of the central government over the lives of the individual. They do not see groups of people as units....they look at individuals as the most important aspect of society......

Bullshit... Painting the world as he would like to see it but actual reality....

 

[CowboyTed]

So Patriot Prayer is Far Right, but ANTIFA requires no mention?

Are we really supposed to accept that blather?

Watch: Oregon Governor Refuses to Explain Why She Didn't Condemn Antifa

Oregon Gov. Kate Brown (D) on Friday refused to explain why she has condemned "armed white supremacists" but not Antifa.

www.breitbart.com

Oregon Gov. Kate Brown (D) on Friday refused to explain why she has condemned “armed white supremacists” but not Antifa after an explosion of violence in Portland, telling reporters that her primary goal centers around “eradicating racism.”​

​

Following the fatal shooting of Trump supporter Aaron J. Danielson at the hands of a self-identified member of Antifa, Brown released a statement condemning “right-wing vigilantes” and “armed white supremacists” for the escalation of violence in Portland. She did not mention Antifa in her condemnatory statement, prompting questions.​

​

“We’ve had some viewers ask why your anti-violence statement this week about ongoing unrest in Portland mentioned white supremacy but did not also include mention of groups like Antifa and other bad actors. Why was that?” a reporter asked Brown at the close of Friday’s press briefing.​

​

The governor refused to answer the question directly, telling the reporter that she is focused on building a “better Oregon” by “eradicating racism”:​

​

So the first question is why did I specifically hold out white supremacist organizations? Because my goal, my vision for a future Oregon is to build a better Oregon where everyone can thrive and that means eradicating racism. And so my understanding of these organizations is they’re based on hate and I think it makes it really difficult for us to build what Dr. King would call a beloved community.​

​

“Just to follow up would you plan to address issues with Antifa as well?” the reporter pressed.​

​

Again, Brown refused to provide an explanation as to why she did not explicitly reprimand Antifa in her Sunday statement and did not use the opportunity to condemn the group.​

​

“We will continue to work with the community to make sure that folks understand that our goal here is to stop the violence directed toward property, to stop the arson, and obviously stop the person-to-person violence that’s happening, yes,” she responded.​

​

In her controversial Sunday statement, Brown stated that “the right-wing group Patriot Prayer and self-proclaimed militia members drove into downtown Portland last night, armed and looking for a fight.”​

​

She added that she would “not allow Patriot Prayer and armed white supremacists to bring more bloodshed to our streets.”​

Patriot Prayer are a violent group...

What to know about Patriot Prayer as Trump supporters take stand in Portland

The fatal shooting of a Patriot Prayer supporter at protests in Portland, Oregon this weekend has cast a national spotlight on a small but vocal group of conservative activists that emerged after President Donald Trump's 2016 election.

www.reuters.com

Saying that Trump never criticise violent far right groups... Biden has been consistent in criticising all violence on all sides... That is the difference, Trump accepts or ignores violence from his supporters..

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

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Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

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According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

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The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

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Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

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Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

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David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

To condemn leftists looting and burning we have to condemn peaceful protesters from the right. Yeah, sure Sport. Sure

There we go again. If it's a Right group, it's peaceful. No matter if they are running around intimidating people with guns or not and maybe taking pot shots. That's okay. But if it's a left wing peaceful march that is just carrying signs then that's a riot and looting.

I think I see a problem here and it's with you.

Rightwingers, leave the guns home, carry the signs and get your message out. Left wing, leave the bricks and bottles home, carry the signs and get your message out.

You're a liar. If it's any group and they are peaceful it's fine. The peaceful left protesters are fine just like the peaceful right protesters.

The violent left protesters are not fine. There really aren't any right violent protesters in this country right now. It's the left that is rioting and looting. Not all of them, and the ones that don't are fine.

That's clearly what I said, asshole. Stop making up shit I didn't say

So you think it's okay that your ritwingnutjobers to intimitdate with firearms everyone around them. Well, then it's okay when the people they intend to intimidate their butts away. You think it's okay if one or two lefties are shot down by the rightwing. Well, you wanted a war, you just got one. brought to you by the Party of the Rump. You don't make the rules don't make them for the other side. You may be required to live by them yourself.

Burn Loot Murder..........and nothing more than Ragheads without a towel wrapped around their head...........

You will OBEY ME...........CONVERT TO ISLAM OR DIE............RAISE YOUR FIST OR DIE........CHANT WITH ME.

Bring your War........we have killed Ragheads before........these are now ragheads by another name.......We don't negotiate with TERRORISTS.

You don't negotiate with anyone period. It's your way or the muzzle.