So Just Exactly What Makes a Group Far-Left or Far-Right?

[negativegreg]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

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Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

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According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

To condemn leftists looting and burning we have to condemn peaceful protesters from the right. Yeah, sure Sport. Sure

Are you saying the KKK and white nationalists aren't violent and destructive?

I think it would be foolish to I would condemn anyone who is actually peacefully protesting

 

[progressive hunter]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

I wouldnt use wiki as a source for anything political,,,

in this country far left is total authoritarian government and far right is no government,,,

at least thats how the founders worked it when they first created the articles of the confederation and then the constitution,,,

 

[22lcidw]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

The urban areas are yours. All yours. All the intimidation is from you to you.

 

[kaz]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

To condemn leftists looting and burning we have to condemn peaceful protesters from the right. Yeah, sure Sport. Sure

Are you saying the KKK and white nationalists aren't violent and destructive?

Are you saying that oranges and toy dinosaurs aren't baking in pudding?

No idea where you got that stupid shit, but you should have left it where you found it. There were no white nationalists at the Michigan protest and the KKK are Democrats. You been in the sun too long today?

 

[progressive hunter]

Believing anything from Wikipedia is a mistake.

The definitions are simple.

Far-Left is what we see with the Democrat Party and the American Left today. It is a Communist agenda.

Far-Right is ANYTHING that is Pro-America.

youre right about the first part and wrong about the 2nd,,,

far right is no government,,

 

[Uncensored2008]

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

The terrorist group called "the democrats" is a far left group that is EXTREMELY violent and is engaged rioting, looting, raping, and creating havoc. Like ISIS, the democrats seek to create dread to the level that normal life is subverted.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

If you were to take a person in 1970 who had very moderate, centrist views and placed them in 2020 America, the fifth column media would call them far right. Heck, I even see them referring to the brilliant independent Jordan Peterson as far right.

The term far right, as our media is using it today, is really just a propaganda tool to influence the sheeple. As the left in our country has drifted away from liberalism and towards Jack booted identity politics, anybody who has any common sense is labeled right wing.

As we can see today, the level of actual authoritarianism is FAR higher on the left than the right. Anybody with an open mind should be able to see that it is the left thar has spearheaded the move to eliminate rights in response to covid and has used it as an excuse to implement an incredibly authoritarian agenda.

 

[John T. Ford]

youre right about the first part and wrong about the 2nd,,,

far right is no government,,

I didn't say it was.

What I am saying is the Left views ANYTHING that is Pro-America to be Far-Right Extremism.

 

[Mac-7]

Are you saying the KKK and white nationalists aren't violent and destructive?

Can you define ”white nationalist?”

 

[JimBowie1958]

youre right about the first part and wrong about the 2nd,,,

far right is no government,,

I didn't say it was.

What I am saying is the Left views ANYTHING that is Pro-America to be Far-Right Extremism.

I think this might be a vestige of having our media owned and controlled by Multinational corporations who see any form of nationalism as far right because it interferes with their plans for a world without national borders.


the Globalists will protect ANTIFA to attack Nationalists it would seem.

 

[negativegreg]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

To condemn leftists looting and burning we have to condemn peaceful protesters from the right. Yeah, sure Sport. Sure

Are you saying the KKK and white nationalists aren't violent and destructive?

Are you saying that oranges and toy dinosaurs aren't baking in pudding?

No idea where you got that stupid shit, but you should have left it where you found it. There were no white nationalists at the Michigan protest and the KKK are Democrats. You been in the sun too long today?

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

The terrorist group called "the democrats" is a far left group that is EXTREMELY violent and is engaged rioting, looting, raping, and creating havoc. Like ISIS, the democrats seek to create dread to the level that normal life is subverted.

Hmmm…I sense a little aggression in your response. If you cannot admit that both, be it Far-Left or Far-Right have some groups that see there agenda as the be all end all is ignorance.

 

[kaz]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

There is more to it than that. The Far Right does not have to overtly have to endulge in direct violence. Oftentimes, they use armed intimidation. The far left equiv is bring things to throw and burning. When the two groups meet, oftentimes, both are armed these days and someone or some people die in the process. Both groups need to be kept out of the cities. If they want to meet in a field and wipe each other out they have my blessing. But stay out of the cities.

To condemn one without condemning the other is counter productive.

To condemn leftists looting and burning we have to condemn peaceful protesters from the right. Yeah, sure Sport. Sure

Are you saying the KKK and white nationalists aren't violent and destructive?

I think it would be foolish to I would condemn anyone who is actually peacefully protesting

I realize it's probably just a typo in there somewhere, but I can't figure out what you said

 

[progressive hunter]

youre right about the first part and wrong about the 2nd,,,

far right is no government,,

I didn't say it was.

What I am saying is the Left views ANYTHING that is Pro-America to be Far-Right Extremism.

well theyve never been accused of being very bright,,,

 

[progressive hunter]

youre right about the first part and wrong about the 2nd,,,

far right is no government,,

I didn't say it was.

What I am saying is the Left views ANYTHING that is Pro-America to be Far-Right Extremism.

I think this might be a vestige of having our media owned and controlled by Multinational corporations who see any form of nationalism as far right because it interferes with their plans for a world without national borders.


the Globalists will protect ANTIFA to attack Nationalists it would seem.

almost every other place in the world that is far right,,,

in america we had the great experiment to see if man can govern himself,,

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

They are both highly annoying frankly. They want everyone to see it only their way and their beliefs are for sure without a doubt the only beliefs that one should follow.

We on the so called far left, when we say we want an egalitarion society does not mean we want everyone to earn the same wage, that would be rediculous. It means that everybody must be given an equal chance in life regardless of parents background,area they live etc, a meritocracy. Anybody falling by the way side must be helped and a safety net of
housing, food & medical care must be provided at the point of need and regardless of their ability to pay.
criminals, drug users, the mentally impaired etc must be cared for with programes to help them become at minimum non threatening to themselves or others. We are the centerists there is nothing 'far' aboutus.

Nazi's would just murder the unproductive.

Surely what we propose is in everybody's interests. Sure the successful will have to pay more (programmes are expensive) but they can go about their business uninpeded

Anyone disagreeing, criminals, the greedy and self interested obviously have mental problems and we can help them too by sending them to re- education centers.

 

[progressive hunter]

They are both highly annoying frankly. They want everyone to see it only their way and their beliefs are for sure without a doubt the only beliefs that one should follow.

We on the so called far left, when we say we want an egalitarion society does not mean we want everyone to earn the same wage, that would be rediculous. It means that everybody must be given an equal chance in life regardless of parents background,area they live etc, a meritocracy. Anybody falling by the way side must be helped and a safety net of
housing, food & medical care must be provided at the point of need and regardless of their ability to pay.
criminals, drug users, the mentally impaired etc must be cared for with programes to help them become at minimum non threatening to themselves or others. We are the centerists there is nothing 'far' aboutus.

Nazi's would just murder the unproductive.

Surely what we propose is in everybody's interests. Sure the successful will have to pay more (programmes are expensive) but they can go about their business uninpeded

Anyone disagreeing, criminals, the greedy and self interested obviously have mental problems and we can help them too by sending them to re- education centers.

thats communist and evil,,,because it requires the use of force,,,

 

[John T. Ford]

I think this might be a vestige of having our media owned and controlled by Multinational corporations who see any form of nationalism as far right because it interferes with their plans for a world without national borders.


the Globalists will protect ANTIFA to attack Nationalists it would seem.

I am sure there is a lot of truth to your assessment.

But, it is also their Hatred for White America that drives this Leftist Insanity.

 

[JimBowie1958]

We on the so called far left, when we say we want an egalitarion society does not mean we want everyone to earn the same wage, that would be rediculous. It means that everybody must be given an equal chance in life regardless of parents background,area they live etc, a meritocracy. Anybody falling by the way side must be helped and a safety net of
housing, food & medical care must be provided at the point of need and regardless of their ability to pay.
criminals, drug users, the mentally impaired etc must be cared for with programes to help them become at minimum non threatening to themselves or others. We are the centerists there is nothing 'far' aboutus.

Nazi's would just murder the unproductive.

Surely what we propose is in everybody's interests. Sure the successful will have to pay more (programmes are expensive) but they can go about their business uninpeded

Anyone disagreeing, criminals, the greedy and self interested obviously have mental problems and we can help them too by sending them to re- education centers.

I think most people would agree with that, but the meaning of so many words and symbols have the effect of making us talk past each other.

When I say 'Laws must be Constitutional.' Liberals tend to interpret that as rightwing (such as they do the Oath Keepers and Patriot Prayer) and the Marxists consider it racist, while I never intend it as such nor does it properly mean such nonsense.

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

They are both highly annoying frankly. They want everyone to see it only their way and their beliefs are for sure without a doubt the only beliefs that one should follow.

We on the so called far left, when we say we want an egalitarion society does not mean we want everyone to earn the same wage, that would be rediculous. It means that everybody must be given an equal chance in life regardless of parents background,area they live etc, a meritocracy. Anybody falling by the way side must be helped and a safety net of
housing, food & medical care must be provided at the point of need and regardless of their ability to pay.
criminals, drug users, the mentally impaired etc must be cared for with programes to help them become at minimum non threatening to themselves or others. We are the centerists there is nothing 'far' aboutus.

Nazi's would just murder the unproductive.

Surely what we propose is in everybody's interests. Sure the successful will have to pay more (programmes are expensive) but they can go about their business uninpeded

Anyone disagreeing, criminals, the greedy and self interested obviously have mental problems and we can help them too by sending them to re- education centers.

thats communist and evil,,,because it requires the use of force,,,

And what has been going on in Portland, Chicargo etc doesn't?

At least there will be a positive beneficial outcome that mitigates our use of force.
US authorities use of force is simply containment without ever solving the root cause. best they can expect is to shift the problem to another city where it surfaces again. how pointless time consuming, expensive acost to human life and injuries.

 

[progressive hunter]

Wikipedia defines 'Far-Right' as:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism,[1][2] are politics further on the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[3][4] nativist ideologies and authoritarian tendencies.[5][6]​

​

Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism,[7] today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]​

​

Far-right politics can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[10][11] nation, state,[12] national religion, dominant culture, or ultra-conservative traditional social institutions.[13]​

The Far-Left:

Far-left politics are politics further to the left of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political left.​

​

There are different definitions of the far-left. Some scholars define it as representing the left of social democracy while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances, the term far-left has been associated with forms of anarchism, autonomism and communism.[citation needed] Groups that advocate for revolutionary anti-capitalism and anti-globalization have been characterized as far-left.[citation needed]​

​

Extremist far-left politics can involve violent acts and the formation of far-left militant organizations meant to abolish capitalist systems and the upper ruling class. Far-left terrorism consists of groups that attempt to realize their radical ideals and bring about change through violence rather than established political processes.​

The definitions are so different, the one on the Far-Right is all about their violence, authoritarianism and racism, while the Far Left is maybe communist, but not violent, etc.

roflmao

My personal definition is equal to both sides; Any group that refuses to tolerate other peaceful groups is 'Far' whatever.

But look at Patriot Prayer, which the Media has taken to calling 'Far Right', even FOX, lol.

Patriot Prayer is a far-right group based in the Portland, Oregon area.[1][2] Patriot Prayer describes itself as advocating in favor of free speech,[3] and opposing big government.[4][5]​

​

The group has organized rallies in support of Donald Trump[6] and far-right protests in predominantly liberal areas, which have been met with large numbers of counter-protesters.[7][8] White nationalists as well as far-right groups, such as Proud Boys,[9] and Hell Shaking Street Preachers,[10][11][12] have attended the rallies organized by Patriot Prayer, sparking controversy and violence.[13][14][15]....​

​

Patriot Prayer was founded in 2016[2] by Joey Gibson.[17] Gibson says he became an activist after seeing a brawl start between supporters of the Trump presidency and counter protesters.[18] Patriot Prayer is a far-right group,[19] part of the Right wing of American politics.[20] It has held rallies in areas known for their liberal politics.[21][22] It has also been described as anti-government.[23][24][25][26] The San Jose Mercury News describes Patriot Prayer as a "right-wing group ... [whose] events ... have attracted white supremacists and ended up in violent confrontations among demonstrators on both sides".[2] In 2017, Gibson described himself as Conservative libertarian.[27]​

​

According to BBC News, Patriot Prayer have been connected to the alt-right as well as other far-right groups.[21] Gibson denies this, saying the group is neither white nationalist nor alt-right and that they support "freedom, love and peace".[28] The group's stated aim is support of the First Amendment, free speech and to "liberate the conservatives on the West Coast".[18]​

​

The Seattle Times and The Washington Post have described Patriot Prayer as a "pro-Trump group".[29][30] According to The Weekly Standard, "n the early days, his [Gibson's] rallies had overtly pro-Trump themes. These days, mentions of Trump have mostly been scrubbed from his own rhetoric, as he knows even invoking the name can be alienating."[31]​

​

Patriot Prayer has made allegations against the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) calling the group a "Muslim extremist organization". Its supporters have made threats online against CAIR, prompting an investigation by authorities.[32][33][34]​

​

Patriot Prayer has a history of harassing and assaulting Abolish ICE and other leftist activists.[35][36][37]​

​

David Neiwert, writing for the Southern Poverty Law Center blog Hatewatch, described Patriot Prayer as "trolling" the Pacific Northwest with the intention of provoking a response from far-left anti-fascists.[38] Neiwert noted that Gibson denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis during an August 13, 2017 rally in Seattle the day after the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, and described that Gibson explained in subsequent interviews that he aims to "actively exclude" white supremacist groups.[38] During the August 13 rally in Seattle such groups had no obvious presence; however, a week earlier at another rally in Portland, Oregon, which was led by Gibson, members of Identity Evropa were in attendance.[39][40] The SPLC describes them as "violent extremists" on their website.​

So Patriot Prayer gets attacked by ANTIFA, which we have all seen in videos from Portland while peacefully protesting, and it is somehow PP's fault jkust for being there and fighting back when assaulted?

FOX should be ashamed of describing Patriot Prayer as 'Far-right' when it is nothing of the sort.

The term 'Far Right' is quickly becoming meaningless, like the word racism is. All it means is you will fight back and vote for Trump.

They are both highly annoying frankly. They want everyone to see it only their way and their beliefs are for sure without a doubt the only beliefs that one should follow.

We on the so called far left, when we say we want an egalitarion society does not mean we want everyone to earn the same wage, that would be rediculous. It means that everybody must be given an equal chance in life regardless of parents background,area they live etc, a meritocracy. Anybody falling by the way side must be helped and a safety net of
housing, food & medical care must be provided at the point of need and regardless of their ability to pay.
criminals, drug users, the mentally impaired etc must be cared for with programes to help them become at minimum non threatening to themselves or others. We are the centerists there is nothing 'far' aboutus.

Nazi's would just murder the unproductive.

Surely what we propose is in everybody's interests. Sure the successful will have to pay more (programmes are expensive) but they can go about their business uninpeded

Anyone disagreeing, criminals, the greedy and self interested obviously have mental problems and we can help them too by sending them to re- education centers.

thats communist and evil,,,because it requires the use of force,,,

And what has been going on in Portland, Chicargo etc doesn't?

At least there will be a positive beneficial outcome that mitigates our use of force.
US authorities use of force is simply containment without ever solving the root cause. best they can expect is to shift the problem to another city where it surfaces again. how pointless time consuming, expensive acost to human life and injuries.

I was talking about how youre going to get those houses and food you think others are entitled to,,,