We Need Socialism.

It's a shame that more young people these days don't know much about the Soviet Union. If they did, they'd get a fascinating and instructive look at what socialism - communism - can bring on a nation. Us older Cold War folks remember the images from inside the Soviet Union in those days; the lines of bedraggled people, wearing gray, baggy, ill-fitting clothing, standing in line for hours for the monthly potato ration and maybe a half-liter of vodka to drown their many sorrows.


We also remember hearing of the Party elites, with their private stores full of Western merchandise and foodstuffs, with their Zil limousines and their dachas in the woods outside Moscow. It was a hideously unbalanced system, with those same Party elites justifying their privileges in a manner that would have socialist Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) nodding in agreement: "We're important."

 
And why do you think, genius, did businesses keep changing in this place? Out of sporting interest?
Socialist China is certainly confirmation of your idiotic statement. :lol:

Why does a business failure mean capitalism doesn't work?
 
The CCP runs the show though. There may be a market, but nothing about it is "free".
A lot of folks make a lot of money there now. Not as many as who don't, but still...
 
A lot of folks make a lot of money there now. Not as many as who don't, but still...
Oh totally. If you're connected. Again, it's a market, just not a free market. No one makes a penny without CCP approval.
 
A lot of folks make a lot of money there now. Not as many as who don't, but still...
The only people who make money in China are senior party members or those connected to them. The most successful businesses are directly owned by the military or party. China has moved from communism to a kleptocratic autocracy of powerful party members.
 
There are many reasons for that

China failed as a socialist nation and only succeeded when embracing free markts you moron
There is free market in socialism. You can go there and by fresh vegetables of fruits or meet anf fish ans so on.
 
I wonder how many New Yorkers are going to be singing the same tune comes January.


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China has not embraced free markets.
China has far more free markets than the West. Plus China doesn’t coup foreign governments. It hasn’t invaded any foreign nation in 50 years. It doesn’t threaten or sanction foreign nations. It doesn’t support a genocide.

China has brought more people out of poverty than any nation in history. This while poverty has risen in the US.

Does China have problems? Of course but if you look at it objectively and refuse to accept the Western narrative, it’s not nearly as bad as the West and the US empire depicts.
 
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China has far more free markets than the West.
No, they don't. We're no bastion of free markets these days, but nothing goes on in China without the CCP's blessing.
China has brought more people out of poverty than any nation in history. This while poverty has risen in the US.
You should spend some time in China. You have some serious misconceptions.
Does China have problems? Of course, but if you look at it objectively and refuse to accept the Western narrative, it’s not nearly as bad as the West and the US empire depicts.
Honestly, it's worse. Our perceptions are wildly off base.

For example, how do you suppose health care is handled in China? Do you know?
 
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China has far more free markets than the West. Plus China doesn’t coup foreign governments. It hasn’t invaded any foreign nation in 50 years. It doesn’t threaten or sanction foreign nations. It doesn’t support a genocide.

China has brought more people out of poverty than any nation in history. This while poverty has risen in the US.

Does China have problems? Of course but if you look at it objectively and refuse to accept the Western narrative, it’s not nearly as bad as the West and the US empire depicts.

So capitalism DOES work

Dumbass
 
No, they don't. We're no bastion of free markets these days, but nothing goes on in China without the CCP's blessing.

You should spend some time in China. You have some serious misconceptions.

Honestly, it's worse. Our perceptions are wildly off base.

For example, how do you suppose health care is handled in China? Do you know?
It’s wise never to believe the establishment narrative. They have a long history of lying. They are lying about China. Just as they’ve lied about every nation the empire opposes throughout our history.

If you think the US has free markets, you are delusional.

China has many problems but thinking they’re so much worse than the US, is failing to accept reality.

What they did to some of their citizens during covid was tyrannical. Our government also did tyrannical things.
 
So capitalism DOES work

Dumbass
Lol. Just like you believe Oswald acted alone and the Warren Report revealed all the facts, you also believe we have a free market capitalist economy.

Can’t fix stupid!
 
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