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[progressive hunter]

Because I ******* told you what it said in the first post, and the only problem you were having was pretending it could possibly mean something different when you read it.

It didn't, so there.

so a faceless guy named bitterhook told me so itss true??

sorry around here we need more than that,,

 

[sealybobo]

Wealth Creators/Makers = Conservatives (Republican)
Wealth Takers/Redistributors = "liberals"/progressives (regressives)~Socialist(communist) Democrat

Without the conservative rural community growing the food, your large cities of leftist freeloaders will starve.

True but remember they need us too. Workers/consumers. Don't forget us. It seems since 1978 Republicans have turned their backs on labor.

Even Republicans admit that. It's why you voted for Trump not Jeb Bush or any of the other Republicans he ran against in 2016.

 

[JoeB131]

you will have to change the constitution first before you get your fascist dream

Actually, no, you really don't.

You just have to reverse Heller.

and repeal the PLCAA, which means if you sell a gun to a crazy person, you can be held liable for what he does with it.

 

[sealybobo]

As long as it goes through the process required in the US Constitution and is ratified by the people.
That's why the authoritarians like to use the courts, because there is less chance they could get it past the people.

Is this unconstitutional?

While Donald Trump generally supports gun rights, firearms are restricted or banned at his rallies

 

[Bitterhook]

so a faceless guy named bitterhook told me so itss true??

sorry around here we need more than that,,

So, a faceless nitwit on the internet, tells me they don't want to believe something so they can waste both of our time arguing about nothing. I'm sorry I am not terribly concerned about your insecurities.

 

[postman]

if you support any gun law or amendment from a state you dont support the US constitution,,

thats just a fact of life,, SCOTUS be damned,,

youre just another mindless america hating kool aid drinker waiting for your daily instructions,,

SCOTUS be damned?

Now who is against the US Constitution?

 

[Bitterhook]

Is this unconstitutional?

While Donald Trump generally supports gun rights, firearms are restricted or banned at his rallies

Rallies fall under the purview of the event organizer, and when considering the President of the United States they may be subject to regulations enforced by the Secret Service (only included that because you nitwits like to argue with every little thing, and I am unsure what rallies you are talking about).

Otherwise, it is not federal law.

 

[postman]

what exactly do you mean by regulated??
as originally intended that was available for all, well supplied and in good working order,,

The same way they regulate switch blades, cars, and drinking water.

 

[Bitterhook]

The same way they regulate switch blades, cars, and drinking water.

None of which are covered in the Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights included in the US Constitution.

 

[progressive hunter]

So, a faceless nitwit on the internet, tells me they don't want to believe something so they can waste both of our time arguing about nothing. I'm sorry I am not terribly concerned about your insecurities.

I posted the 2nd A and youve posted nothing that shows,, well anything,,

 

[postman]

how can I not understand it if you wont post it??

as I said,, any law that restricts in any way is in violation of the 2nd amendment of the US

Every amendment faces restrictions, that the government can show a compelling interest in restricting.

Such as not letting people yell "fire" in a crowded theatre. Or use language that incites a riot.

They can search your person without a warrant when you're subject to arrest.,

They can even force you to incriminate yourself when you file income taxes by requiring you report illegal income.

 

[progressive hunter]

SCOTUS be damned?

Now who is against the US Constitution?

not me,,

judges give opinions and dont set law,, and last I heard the 2nd A is still the law of the land,,

 

[postman]

Is this unconstitutional?

While Donald Trump generally supports gun rights, firearms are restricted or banned at his rallies

Even in states with open carry, and right to carry laws.

 

[progressive hunter]

Every amendment faces restrictions, that the government can show a compelling interest in restricting.

Such as not letting people yell "fire" in a crowded theatre. Or use language that incites a riot.

They can search your person without a warrant when you're subject to arrest.,

They can search your person without a warrant when you're subject to arrest.,

They can even force you to incriminate yourself when you file income taxes by requiring you report illegal income.

there is no law that says you cant yell fire in a crowded theater,,

 

[progressive hunter]

They can search your person without a warrant when you're subject to arrest.,

thats covered in the 4th amendment,,

 

[Bitterhook]

I posted the 2nd A and youve posted nothing that shows,, well anything,,

The amendment I posted includes the US Constitution's Second Amendment, the additional distinction our constitution made, and you thanked the post.

I really don't know what you are talking about or why you are still trying to argue, unless you are so insecure you cannot remember what you did 29 minutes ago (according to the tag on the notice).

 

[Bitterhook]

there is no law that says you cant yell fire in a crowded theater,,

Not arguing because that is a very good point considering the times we are in.

It may be wise to indicate there is no 'federal statute' that forbids yelling fire in a crowded theater, or someone will find a local ordinance from Podunk, Wherever that may actually forbid the practice.

 

[progressive hunter]

The amendment I posted includes the US Constitution's Second Amendment, the additional distinction our constitution made, and you thanked the post.

I really don't know what you are talking about or why you are still trying to argue, unless you are so insecure you cannot remember what you did 29 minutes ago (according to the tag on the notice).

what did you mean when you said you dont keep it on your nightstand so couldnt post it??

The same way they regulate switch blades, cars, and drinking water.

which is??

as per switchblades that is a restriction that violates the 2nd A,,

the others are not rights protected by constitution

 

[Lockback]

Um, no. We don't have "militias" anymore, because the concept of a militia (a bunch of idiots showing up with guns in a crisis) doesn't work. This is why they've been replaced with professional police forces and the National Guard.

Which still doesn't negate the need for regular people to be armed. Unless you trust in a police state.

So why do we need a vestigal "right to bear arms" if we are never going to call up a Militia?

We are the militia. We're American citizens.

Every other Advanced Democracy either bans guns or limits who can get them, and they have more freedom than we do.

I don't care about other so-called "Advanced Democracies".
We are who we are. If you prefer how Italy or Germany does things, by all means feel free to move there. I'll help you pack.
And the idea that they have more freedom than we do is complete bullshit.

Exactly how free are we in a country of metal detectors, security guards, and Active Shooter Drills because a small minority are insecure enough to want something they aren't really trained to handle?

The small minority is actually the number of ******* nutjobs we have in the country now as opposed to, say, not all that long ago when I was a kid.
I'm not going to give up my rights because ******* nutjobs who want to be another sex or are hallucinating because of drugs or whatever are committing acts of evil. In fact, it's all the more reason for regular citizens to be armed.

Except guns don't make us freer. No country has slid into totalitarianism without the enthusiastic support of the people. Shit, if Trump suspended the Constitution tomorrow, I suspect you and the other wing-nuts would be cheering him on.

You can shove it up your ass. I'm a strict Constitutionalist, unlike you who's willing to flush the 2nd Amendment down the toilet because you don't like it.
If Trump suspended the Constitution, I'd be the first in line calling for his resignation.

Except that lots of states and municipalities HAVE passed common sense Gun laws, and the National Rifle Association has run right to the courts and whined, "They won't let me have my gun!!!"

Whenever I hear the term "common sense gun laws", I know I'm dealing with a leftist clown. Same old shit, different day.
You and your phony hypocritical Leftist politicians can shove it.

 

[progressive hunter]

Not arguing because that is a very good point considering the times we are in.

It may be wise to indicate there is no 'federal statute' that forbids yelling fire in a crowded theater, or someone will find a local ordinance from Podunk, Wherever that may actually forbid the practice.

when you find one you let us know,,