Zone1 Was Eve expelled from Eden, or did she leave with Adam?

[hobelim]

You should be honest with everyone and admit that you don't believe in anything supernatural.

You openly practice idolatry. I see you flailing about in hell prancing around like a fool naked on fire in public. I have no choice but to believe what I see with my eyes. So I know that God reigns over the minds and lives of all people by either granting or denying comprehension.

Life itself.

 

[rylah]

but the distinction would also apply to Adam who is also not "cursed." The other question must be "why is the ground cursed." The meforshim have an answer to that IIRC. But again, Rashi on 1:11 is important in terms of understanding the tree vs. fruit issue.

Yes, and that would be a consistent argument.

The earth was cursed due to Adam, but not Adam himself.

Rashi on 1:11 also uses specific terms that refer distinctly to Adam.

 

[ding]

No, why? That isn't at all what I said.

Then AI was spot on.

Nope. Why would you assume Judaism teaches that?

Then AI was spot on.

AI is very, very wrong and the material you presented claimed to be from the perspective of Judaism and it simply isn't. The lack of actual citations to Jewish authorities should have clued you in.

Maybe if you could pick something from that post and show how Jewish beliefs contradict it? You know show what the Jewish belief/teaching is rather than just dismissing it offhand.

 

[ding]

You openly practice idolatry. I see you flailing about in hell prancing around like a fool naked on fire in public. I have no choice but to believe what I see with my eyes. So I know that God reigns over the minds and lives of all people by either granting or denying comprehension.

Life itself.

That's not you denying that you don't believe in anything supernatural.

 

[hobelim]

That's not you denying that you don't believe in anything supernatural.

Thats right.

It's me affirming that I believe in one God who is incorporeal without visible shape or material form and never was human. In fact there never was and never will be a human even Jesus that was God or became God either before during or after their human existence.

Thats this remains above your grasp is proof enough for me to believe in the power of God.