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[bripat9643]

Your comments demonstrate you are not an American, you piece of shit.

How?

 

[bripat9643]

We don't hate America. We hate Americans like you.

Neither of you are American.

My passport says otherwise.

That is exactly the kind of stupidity that indicates you are NOT a real American.

How does that indicate I'm not an American?

It indicates you are an idiot.

How?

 

[bripat9643]

We don't hate America. We hate Americans like you.

Neither of you are American.

My passport says otherwise.

I bet you think your passport is capable of learning too right?

I'll bet you think you're capable of learning, but your performance in this thread indicates otherwise.

You have already proven you flunked out of school at an early age. I dont think I know anyone stupid enough to say babies are blind because they dont understand what they see. You are an idiot but now that I think about it you have proven you were an idiot before.

That's what the experts who have done research on the subject say, moron. Why would anyone defer to your superior knowledge?

 

[Asclepias]

Neither of you are American.

My passport says otherwise.

I bet you think your passport is capable of learning too right?

I'll bet you think you're capable of learning, but your performance in this thread indicates otherwise.

You have already proven you flunked out of school at an early age. I dont think I know anyone stupid enough to say babies are blind because they dont understand what they see. You are an idiot but now that I think about it you have proven you were an idiot before.

That's what the experts who have done research on the subject say, moron. Why would anyone defer to your superior knowledge?

Youre not an expert. Youre an idiot. No one says you cant physcially see something because you dont understand. Regardless of your deflection computers dont store images like humans do. They store everything in binary code which the brain doesnt use. You have made yourself look like fool long enough. Go take a nap.

 

[EverCurious]

We're getting a bit OT here with all the socialist political movement yap, but ya know personally, I'd like to see no one homeless and no one going without food or medical care, I just don't agree that tax is the way to achieve that ultimate goal. Technology is a far more realistically sustainable solution, it's unfortunate that the transition into that "utopia" is going to be painful... IF taxes on the wealthy were going to a sustainable solution, I would be far more inclined to support it, but it's not, it's going to a completely unsustainable and unfair system of handouts that don't actually help in any kind of long run. It's a waste that isn't going to permanently solve the problem. I don't like Band-Aid solutions, sorry.

i'm not a socialist. but the healthiest societies are those which have a mixture of capitalism and socialism. that's simply fact.

we're not talking about band aids and hand outs. we're talking about hand-ups. i went to a state university at a time when it didn't cost $40,000 a year. i went to law school at a time when my student loans were government-backed so weren't used as a profit center because taxes were reduced for the top 1%.

thinking that's a crime is not socialist. it's rational and the fact that it's the case should outrage you.

We're getting a bit OT here with all the socialist political movement yap, but ya know personally, I'd like to see no one homeless and no one going without food or medical care, I just don't agree that tax is the way to achieve that ultimate goal. Technology is a far more realistically sustainable solution, it's unfortunate that the transition into that "utopia" is going to be painful... IF taxes on the wealthy were going to a sustainable solution, I would be far more inclined to support it, but it's not, it's going to a completely unsustainable and unfair system of handouts that don't actually help in any kind of long run. It's a waste that isn't going to permanently solve the problem. I don't like Band-Aid solutions, sorry.

Youre talking about it in the abstract with no real experience to your belief that there should be no band aids. Without band aids real live people, children die, go hungry, etc. Its a process. Its holds things in place until a viable solution is found. The thing is like I said before. The capitalistic system cannot exist without those have nots. The have nots provide the wealth for the haves. Ironically they do this attempting to become haves.

"The lessons of history, confirmed by the evidence immediately before me, show conclusively that continued dependence upon relief induces a spiritual and moral disintegration fundamentally destructive to the national fiber. To dole out relief in this way is to administer a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit. . . . " ~ Spoke by the "father" of US welfare, Roosevelt, in 1935 to east the devastation of the great depression. When they wrote this stuff into law, they thought it would be repealed after the economy recovered, but it never was, in fact, we just keep /adding/ new things to it; like cell phones... I wasn't aware that survival now requires a cellphone...

Exactly what long term alternative to welfare do you two think that our government has been pursuing over the past 86 years? I personally have heard NOTHING but raise taxes on the rich...

Great would be for those who are willing to put in the effort to achieve the American Dream - rather than the current crop who thinks that simply by being born here they are entitled to a white picket fence. America /has/ forgotten what made America great.

Bullshit. My dad came here from Greece, got a job at Ford and raised a family. In fact I don't even think he finished Highschool. My mom did finish highschool and got a job as a receptionist at Henry Ford Emergency and worked her way up to medical biller. Even before she was a medical biller she had a pretty good job for a high school grad. My parents have hundreds of thousands of dollars, get a penson & social security and medicare and in my eyes they are rich. Back before Bushanomics or Reaganomics America was great. If two high school grads could achieve that and every other factory rat at the big 3 could achieve that, then that was a time when America was great.

My grandmother too. She never made much more than minimum wage but saved hundreds of thousands of dollars and back 10 years ago a person like that could live off the interest. Today a person like that gets 1% on that money. The bankers are fucking us all.

1% lol You clearly need to look at other options dude... my fricking local state /checking/ account pays 1% interest, I get 3% on the savings account with them... Seriously, go talk to Edward Jones about how to best invest your money, they do a great job for all our buddies. (We have a guy I've known since HS or I'd go with them myself, my folks work with them though.)

 

[bripat9643]

That's exactly what your brain does, numskull.

Basically your theory is that computers can't learn because computers can't learn.

You don't even know how your own brain works, so what makes you imagine a computer brain couldn't do the same thing?

You're simply an obstinate ignoramus who can't accept the fact that technology is going to make you obsolete.

No dummy thats not what your brain does. People dont think in binary. They think in images. Binary is a numbering system where 0 is "off" and 1 is "on". Pictures dont work like that.

No. The fact is that computers cant "learn" for several reasons. They are not organic and incapable of original thought. Thats like claiming a rock can learn to speak english.

Saying people "think in images" is a gross over simplification of how your brain works. You brain has to learn a lot before it can even comprehend an image. Babies are blind because their brains haven't developed enough to comprehend the meaning of the input from their eyes.

Saying computers think in binary and people think in images only shows that you don't know the slightest thing about either. Your claim that computers are "incapable of organic thought" is just another way of saying computers can't think because computers can't think. Where is it written that thought has to be the result of a biological process? That sounds like something only Bible thumpers would say. It's certainly not a scientific proposition.

Just give up this line of argument before you make a total fool of yourself.

Whoops, to late!

Babies are not blind dummy unless they are blind. Your brain begins storing images even in the womb. Where in the hell are you getting this wild ass shit?

No dummy organic thought is an awareness. Machines dont have an awareness.

God, what a moron. Babies can't see anything when they are born. The impulses coming from their eyes are meaningless gibberish until the are a few months old. Scientists have don't extensive research on this subject which you are obviously unaware of. Babies have to learn how to see.

The statement "organic thought is an awareness" translated into English means "thought is thought. You've said exactly nothing. You also said "machines can't think." That's all you've been saying for the last several posts. You haven't proved jack, however.

Youre not making sense. First you claimed humans see things in binary like computers and now youre claiming babies are blind because they dont understand what they see? Does it not register to you that not understanding something doesnt mean you cant physically see something? Are you saying that when you were first introduced to the concept of 2+2=4 you couldnt see the symbols on the page?

I never claimed humans see things in binary, numskull. That's simply your defecting brain jumping to conclusions. The facts are that babies cannot recognize even simply thinks like the edge of an object. Its brain has to learn that certain patterns means that one thing is different from another. Its brain has to learn the difference between near and far. If I recall correctly, it can't even recognize its mother's face for a several months.

You are obviously speaking from pure ignorance. You demonstrate your ignorance with every statement you make.

Computer experts are having the same difficulties teaching computers to see. Making a computer recognize the edge of the road took years of work and research.

It's amazing that such an ignoramus as you is so arrogant.

 

[Asclepias]

No dummy thats not what your brain does. People dont think in binary. They think in images. Binary is a numbering system where 0 is "off" and 1 is "on". Pictures dont work like that.

No. The fact is that computers cant "learn" for several reasons. They are not organic and incapable of original thought. Thats like claiming a rock can learn to speak english.

Saying people "think in images" is a gross over simplification of how your brain works. You brain has to learn a lot before it can even comprehend an image. Babies are blind because their brains haven't developed enough to comprehend the meaning of the input from their eyes.

Saying computers think in binary and people think in images only shows that you don't know the slightest thing about either. Your claim that computers are "incapable of organic thought" is just another way of saying computers can't think because computers can't think. Where is it written that thought has to be the result of a biological process? That sounds like something only Bible thumpers would say. It's certainly not a scientific proposition.

Just give up this line of argument before you make a total fool of yourself.

Whoops, to late!

Babies are not blind dummy unless they are blind. Your brain begins storing images even in the womb. Where in the hell are you getting this wild ass shit?

No dummy organic thought is an awareness. Machines dont have an awareness.

God, what a moron. Babies can't see anything when they are born. The impulses coming from their eyes are meaningless gibberish until the are a few months old. Scientists have don't extensive research on this subject which you are obviously unaware of. Babies have to learn how to see.

The statement "organic thought is an awareness" translated into English means "thought is thought. You've said exactly nothing. You also said "machines can't think." That's all you've been saying for the last several posts. You haven't proved jack, however.

Youre not making sense. First you claimed humans see things in binary like computers and now youre claiming babies are blind because they dont understand what they see? Does it not register to you that not understanding something doesnt mean you cant physically see something? Are you saying that when you were first introduced to the concept of 2+2=4 you couldnt see the symbols on the page?

I never claimed humans see things in binary, numskull. That's simply your defecting brain jumping to conclusions. The facts are that babies cannot recognize even simply thinks like the edge of an object. Its brain has to learn that certain patterns means that one thing is different from another. Its brain has to learn the difference between near and far. If I recall correctly, it can't even recognize its mother's face for a several months.

You are obviously speaking from pure ignorance. You demonstrate your ignorance with every statement you make.

Computer experts are having the same difficulties teaching computers to see. Making a computer recognize the edge of the road took years of work and research.

It's amazing that such an ignoramus as you is so arrogant.

Yeah you did idiot. I told you computers convert images to binary and you said humans do the same thing. Recognizing has nothing to do with seeing. I wouldnt recognize you if you knocked on my front door right now but I would see you. Babies can see in the womb you retard.

The computer is not recognizing the edge of the road. its reading instructions programmed into software that describes the parameters of what the edge or the road is. You keep making yourself look stupid.

 

[dilloduck]

This is an example of how the Third Industrial or Digital Revolution is making human labor obsolete. How will working class people survive with 90% unemployment rates? How will conservatives adjust their rhetoric to survive? Will we see socialism take over both parties?

These warehouse robots can boost productivity by 800%

Business won't survive without customers.

Robots dont care

 

[dilloduck]

"Klaatu barada nikto"

 

[bripat9643]

Saying people "think in images" is a gross over simplification of how your brain works. You brain has to learn a lot before it can even comprehend an image. Babies are blind because their brains haven't developed enough to comprehend the meaning of the input from their eyes.

Saying computers think in binary and people think in images only shows that you don't know the slightest thing about either. Your claim that computers are "incapable of organic thought" is just another way of saying computers can't think because computers can't think. Where is it written that thought has to be the result of a biological process? That sounds like something only Bible thumpers would say. It's certainly not a scientific proposition.

Just give up this line of argument before you make a total fool of yourself.

Whoops, to late!

Babies are not blind dummy unless they are blind. Your brain begins storing images even in the womb. Where in the hell are you getting this wild ass shit?

No dummy organic thought is an awareness. Machines dont have an awareness.

God, what a moron. Babies can't see anything when they are born. The impulses coming from their eyes are meaningless gibberish until the are a few months old. Scientists have don't extensive research on this subject which you are obviously unaware of. Babies have to learn how to see.

The statement "organic thought is an awareness" translated into English means "thought is thought. You've said exactly nothing. You also said "machines can't think." That's all you've been saying for the last several posts. You haven't proved jack, however.

Youre not making sense. First you claimed humans see things in binary like computers and now youre claiming babies are blind because they dont understand what they see? Does it not register to you that not understanding something doesnt mean you cant physically see something? Are you saying that when you were first introduced to the concept of 2+2=4 you couldnt see the symbols on the page?

I never claimed humans see things in binary, numskull. That's simply your defecting brain jumping to conclusions. The facts are that babies cannot recognize even simply thinks like the edge of an object. Its brain has to learn that certain patterns means that one thing is different from another. Its brain has to learn the difference between near and far. If I recall correctly, it can't even recognize its mother's face for a several months.

You are obviously speaking from pure ignorance. You demonstrate your ignorance with every statement you make.

Computer experts are having the same difficulties teaching computers to see. Making a computer recognize the edge of the road took years of work and research.

It's amazing that such an ignoramus as you is so arrogant.

Yeah you did idiot. I told you computers convert images to binary and you said humans do the same thing. Recognizing has nothing to do with seeing. I wouldnt recognize you if you knocked on my front door right now but I would see you. Babies can see in the womb you retard.

The computer is not recognizing the edge of the road. its reading instructions programmed into software that describes the parameters of what the edge or the road is. You keep making yourself look stupid.

You're obviously some kind of retard. The "parameters" that define what the edge of the road is how the computer sees it, dumbass. Your brain does the same thing. It learned what an edge is when you were a baby.

A baby will crawl from a floor over a plate of glass placed level with the floor even if that glass is several feet above the level below the glass. The baby doesn't know that it is high above the ground because his brain hasn't learned the concept "high" yet.

By continuing to blab on this subject you only prove what a dumbass you are and how eager you are to prove your ignorance to the entire forum. You're too stupid to even understand the concepts being discussed.

 

[Asclepias]

Babies are not blind dummy unless they are blind. Your brain begins storing images even in the womb. Where in the hell are you getting this wild ass shit?

No dummy organic thought is an awareness. Machines dont have an awareness.

God, what a moron. Babies can't see anything when they are born. The impulses coming from their eyes are meaningless gibberish until the are a few months old. Scientists have don't extensive research on this subject which you are obviously unaware of. Babies have to learn how to see.

The statement "organic thought is an awareness" translated into English means "thought is thought. You've said exactly nothing. You also said "machines can't think." That's all you've been saying for the last several posts. You haven't proved jack, however.

Youre not making sense. First you claimed humans see things in binary like computers and now youre claiming babies are blind because they dont understand what they see? Does it not register to you that not understanding something doesnt mean you cant physically see something? Are you saying that when you were first introduced to the concept of 2+2=4 you couldnt see the symbols on the page?

I never claimed humans see things in binary, numskull. That's simply your defecting brain jumping to conclusions. The facts are that babies cannot recognize even simply thinks like the edge of an object. Its brain has to learn that certain patterns means that one thing is different from another. Its brain has to learn the difference between near and far. If I recall correctly, it can't even recognize its mother's face for a several months.

You are obviously speaking from pure ignorance. You demonstrate your ignorance with every statement you make.

Computer experts are having the same difficulties teaching computers to see. Making a computer recognize the edge of the road took years of work and research.

It's amazing that such an ignoramus as you is so arrogant.

Yeah you did idiot. I told you computers convert images to binary and you said humans do the same thing. Recognizing has nothing to do with seeing. I wouldnt recognize you if you knocked on my front door right now but I would see you. Babies can see in the womb you retard.

The computer is not recognizing the edge of the road. its reading instructions programmed into software that describes the parameters of what the edge or the road is. You keep making yourself look stupid.

You're obviously some kind of retard. The "parameters" that define what the edge of the road is how the computer sees it, dumbass. Your brain does the same thing. It learned what an edge is when you were a baby.

A baby will crawl from a floor over a plate of glass placed level with the floor even if that glass is several feet above the level below the glass. The baby doesn't know that it is high above the ground because his brain hasn't learned the concept "high" yet.

By continuing to blab on this subject you only prove what a dumbass you are and how eager you are to prove your ignorance to the entire forum. You're too stupid to even understand the concepts being discussed.

You sound like some wild eyed fool with that deflection. I dont care what glass plate a baby climbs over. You said babies were blind because they couldnt understand their sensory input. Youre a clown and your deflecting only lets me know you know you are fool too.

 

[bripat9643]

God, what a moron. Babies can't see anything when they are born. The impulses coming from their eyes are meaningless gibberish until the are a few months old. Scientists have don't extensive research on this subject which you are obviously unaware of. Babies have to learn how to see.

The statement "organic thought is an awareness" translated into English means "thought is thought. You've said exactly nothing. You also said "machines can't think." That's all you've been saying for the last several posts. You haven't proved jack, however.

Youre not making sense. First you claimed humans see things in binary like computers and now youre claiming babies are blind because they dont understand what they see? Does it not register to you that not understanding something doesnt mean you cant physically see something? Are you saying that when you were first introduced to the concept of 2+2=4 you couldnt see the symbols on the page?

I never claimed humans see things in binary, numskull. That's simply your defecting brain jumping to conclusions. The facts are that babies cannot recognize even simply thinks like the edge of an object. Its brain has to learn that certain patterns means that one thing is different from another. Its brain has to learn the difference between near and far. If I recall correctly, it can't even recognize its mother's face for a several months.

You are obviously speaking from pure ignorance. You demonstrate your ignorance with every statement you make.

Computer experts are having the same difficulties teaching computers to see. Making a computer recognize the edge of the road took years of work and research.

It's amazing that such an ignoramus as you is so arrogant.

Yeah you did idiot. I told you computers convert images to binary and you said humans do the same thing. Recognizing has nothing to do with seeing. I wouldnt recognize you if you knocked on my front door right now but I would see you. Babies can see in the womb you retard.

The computer is not recognizing the edge of the road. its reading instructions programmed into software that describes the parameters of what the edge or the road is. You keep making yourself look stupid.

You're obviously some kind of retard. The "parameters" that define what the edge of the road is how the computer sees it, dumbass. Your brain does the same thing. It learned what an edge is when you were a baby.

A baby will crawl from a floor over a plate of glass placed level with the floor even if that glass is several feet above the level below the glass. The baby doesn't know that it is high above the ground because his brain hasn't learned the concept "high" yet.

By continuing to blab on this subject you only prove what a dumbass you are and how eager you are to prove your ignorance to the entire forum. You're too stupid to even understand the concepts being discussed.

You sound like some wild eyed fool with that deflection. I dont care what glass plate a baby climbs over. You said babies were blind because they couldnt understand their sensory input. Youre a clown and your deflecting only lets me know you know you are fool too.

As in every other subject you post on, you only prove that you're an ignoramus who isn't afraid to reveal the fact.

 

[sealybobo]

There were no poor people in Avatar. The blue people lived off the land.

How are Republicans going to make America great again when they don't want to pay workers anymore than $15 hr? Great again for who?

I dont recall a time when america was great. Repubs are the least likely to make it great. In the capitalistic system you determine your own worth. Dont settle for $15 hr.

We all know you hate America, so what's your point?

We don't hate America. We hate Americans like you.

You hate America. You hate me because I believe in the principles America was founded on.

I didn't know a bunch of dicks started America

 

[rdean]

Something that will never occur to the right wingers. Become one of the people making the robots. Or a technician. Or an installer.

lol, and robots wont ever be able to make robots because......

and robots wont ever be able to install robots because......

and robots wont ever be able to repair robots because......

you cannot comprehend them doing so?

This is why Republicans hate immigrants. Because the immigrants will learn.

Lol, and you cap you stupid comment with a wild partisan accusation that is not supported by the evidence or law.

We native born Americans have rights, Tutifruti, and we are finally wakening up enough to maybe stop most of this cheap labor exploitation.

Tough shit for you race baiting freaks.

lol, and robots wont ever be able to make robots because......they have no imagination.

and robots wont ever be able to install robots because......They don't know where the plug is.

and robots wont ever be able to repair robots because......Someone has to teach them how to do it.

Gawd you're dumb.

 

[bripat9643]

How are Republicans going to make America great again when they don't want to pay workers anymore than $15 hr? Great again for who?

I dont recall a time when america was great. Repubs are the least likely to make it great. In the capitalistic system you determine your own worth. Dont settle for $15 hr.

We all know you hate America, so what's your point?

We don't hate America. We hate Americans like you.

You hate America. You hate me because I believe in the principles America was founded on.

I didn't know a bunch of dicks started America

Your kind calls them white racist sexist homophobic bigots.

 

[sealybobo]

I dont recall a time when america was great. Repubs are the least likely to make it great. In the capitalistic system you determine your own worth. Dont settle for $15 hr.

We all know you hate America, so what's your point?

We don't hate America. We hate Americans like you.

You hate America. You hate me because I believe in the principles America was founded on.

I didn't know a bunch of dicks started America

Your kind calls them white racist sexist homophobic bigots.

You're just being partisan. I suddenly like you more knowing unkotard dislikes you.

In a way hes a great uniter.

Mentioning fdr to him is like bringing up the Sasquiana hat company up to Costello.

 

[sealybobo]

I dont recall a time when america was great. Repubs are the least likely to make it great. In the capitalistic system you determine your own worth. Dont settle for $15 hr.

We all know you hate America, so what's your point?

We don't hate America. We hate Americans like you.

Neither of you are American.

My passport says otherwise.

That is exactly the kind of stupidity that indicates you are NOT a real American.

Thread derailing pussy isle 5

 

[JimBowie1958]

lol, and robots wont ever be able to make robots because......they have no imagination.

and robots wont ever be able to install robots because......They don't know where the plug is.

and robots wont ever be able to repair robots because......Someone has to teach them how to do it.

Gawd you're dumb.

Lol, robots will be able to find the plug, think creatively and learn and teach.

Your ignorance is simply amazing as well as amusing.

 

[EverCurious]

Ya'll are acting like fighting 5 year olds in here... Depending on how one defines "thinking" and "intelligence" everyone might be correct.


I personally don't think it's impossible for a computer to learn to think, especially when we start mixing in biological components, however, I do not think that we'll be giving computers the coding that would be required for a machine to think creatively enough to come anywhere near a desire to take over the world. The worst I see happening is similar to the self-braking car - machine /thinks/ it's doing the right thing to protect it's passenger (or perhaps in the future itself), but the human owner knows its not doing the right thing and thus has it "fixed" aka reprogrammed. There is zero chance that we could "accidently" create a machine with all of the components necessary for the "grey goo" scenario; self-preservation, lack of coding to not harm humans, ability to self-replicate, creative thinking, the list goes on.

 

[bripat9643]

Ya'll are acting like fighting 5 year olds in here... Depending on how one defines "thinking" and "intelligence" everyone might be correct.


I personally don't think it's impossible for a computer to learn to think, especially when we start mixing in biological components, however, I do not think that we'll be giving computers the coding that would be required for a machine to think creatively enough to come anywhere near a desire to take over the world. The worst I see happening is similar to the self-braking car - machine /thinks/ it's doing the right thing to protect it's passenger (or perhaps in the future itself), but the human owner knows its not doing the right thing and thus has it "fixed" aka reprogrammed. There is zero chance that we could "accidently" create a machine with all of the components necessary for the "grey goo" scenario; self-preservation, lack of coding to not harm humans, ability to self-replicate, creative thinking, the list goes on.

Well, you're wrong because many researches are doing exactly that: they are trying to develop computers that learn and think just like humans.

Read anything by Ray Kurzweil if you want to learn more.