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It only becomes a bad thing when you pretend its "great". If you lose that superlative then its just a state of existence, reality. Humans first civilizations were socialist. People shared resources equally and cared for those that were unable to produce. Of course socialism in part or whole is part of the solution. Yes those that want more should be willing to do something for it but like all successful societies that more should be shared equally.They call that the american dream for a reason. Its a carrot. In the capitalistic system it is required that there are some haves and have nots. If everyone was a "have" the system would fall apart.Great would be for those who are willing to put in the effort to achieve the American Dream - rather than the current crop who thinks that simply by being born here they are entitled to a white picket fence. America /has/ forgotten what made America great.
I can agree with there being haves and have nots, though I do not see it as a "bad thing" (I'm guessing you do heh) Some folks would be perfectly content with mere survival, food on the table and a roof over their head - and I do actually think we can achieve this as a nation, (however, the methods currently being attempted (socialism and such) is not the answer - tech however, is a more viable long-term solution.) Those who want more than food and a home though should be willing to do something for it yes?
This is an example of how the Third Industrial or Digital Revolution is making human labor obsolete. How will working class people survive with 90% unemployment rates? How will conservatives adjust their rhetoric to survive? Will we see socialism take over both parties?
These warehouse robots can boost productivity by 800%
Something that will never occur to the right wingers. Become one of the people making the robots. Or a technician. Or an installer.This is an example of how the Third Industrial or Digital Revolution is making human labor obsolete. How will working class people survive with 90% unemployment rates? How will conservatives adjust their rhetoric to survive? Will we see socialism take over both parties?
These warehouse robots can boost productivity by 800%
Being born here in America means we have just as much right to the protection of our working class interests as the major retailers have in protecting THEIR interests.Great would be for those who are willing to put in the effort to achieve the American Dream - rather than the current crop who thinks that simply by being born here they are entitled to a white picket fence. America /has/ forgotten what made America great.
If yo are going to say no borders for anyone, then let me go buy my stuff over the internet from India and China without paying import tariffs and we can all enjoy cheap third world costs TODAY.
But US retailers and manufacturers wont hear of that, oh, no, we have to protect their profit margins, even if it means we starve.
So till we get rid of ALL tariffs, we US workers have jsut as much right to get laws passed on our favor as the corrupt corporate capitalists do.
Period.
How do you tell the difference between "simulated learning" and real learning? If you can't tell the difference, then aren't they exactly the same thing?
Computers can't design computers like humans because the later are still 10,000 times smarter than the former. That difference will disappear in about 20 years if Moore's law maintains.
Easy. Teach your TV to say the ABC's without any additional programming. if you cant then you know that it cant really learn.How do you tell the difference between "simulated learning" and real learning? If you can't tell the difference, then aren't they exactly the same thing?
Computers can't design computers like humans because the later are still 10,000 times smarter than the former. That difference will disappear in about 20 years if Moore's law maintains.
Something that will never occur to the right wingers. Become one of the people making the robots. Or a technician. Or an installer.
This is why Republicans hate immigrants. Because the immigrants will learn.
...uhm okay. Not sure how this relates to my post here, but there is a big difference between what I'm talking about and the current crops demand that wealthy folks who worked hard for what they've gained pay for those who feel they are entitled to free college, homes, medical care, etc. simply by living here. Hand up, not a hand out is my vision at the moment because the other option is non-sustainable. I don't look at my bank account when I vote, I look at the future, and similarly in my personal life, I look at the future I want to have and I take steps to ensure that I get to that goal. I wanted a home, I wanted a cabin, I wanted my kids to go to college, and other things so I worked to get those things. I did not decide that someone else /owed/ me those things - and that is what I was talking about.
Being born here in America means we have just as much right to the protection of our working class interests as the major retailers have in protecting THEIR interests.Great would be for those who are willing to put in the effort to achieve the American Dream - rather than the current crop who thinks that simply by being born here they are entitled to a white picket fence. America /has/ forgotten what made America great.
If yo are going to say no borders for anyone, then let me go buy my stuff over the internet from India and China without paying import tariffs and we can all enjoy cheap third world costs TODAY.
But US retailers and manufacturers wont hear of that, oh, no, we have to protect their profit margins, even if it means we starve.
So till we get rid of ALL tariffs, we US workers have jsut as much right to get laws passed on our favor as the corrupt corporate capitalists do.
Period.
...uhm okay. Not sure how this relates to my post here, but there is a big difference between what I'm talking about and the current crops demand that wealthy folks who worked hard for what they've gained pay for those who feel they are entitled to free college, homes, medical care, etc. simply by living here. Hand up, not a hand out is my vision at the moment because the other option is non-sustainable. I don't look at my bank account when I vote, I look at the future, and similarly in my personal life, I look at the future I want to have and I take steps to ensure that I get to that goal. I wanted a home, I wanted a cabin, I wanted my kids to go to college, and other things so I worked to get those things. I did not decide that someone else /owed/ me those things - and that is what I was talking about.
great response.Being born here in America means we have just as much right to the protection of our working class interests as the major retailers have in protecting THEIR interests.Great would be for those who are willing to put in the effort to achieve the American Dream - rather than the current crop who thinks that simply by being born here they are entitled to a white picket fence. America /has/ forgotten what made America great.
If yo are going to say no borders for anyone, then let me go buy my stuff over the internet from India and China without paying import tariffs and we can all enjoy cheap third world costs TODAY.
But US retailers and manufacturers wont hear of that, oh, no, we have to protect their profit margins, even if it means we starve.
So till we get rid of ALL tariffs, we US workers have jsut as much right to get laws passed on our favor as the corrupt corporate capitalists do.
Period.
...uhm okay. Not sure how this relates to my post here, but there is a big difference between what I'm talking about and the current crops demand that wealthy folks who worked hard for what they've gained pay for those who feel they are entitled to free college, homes, medical care, etc. simply by living here. Hand up, not a hand out is my vision at the moment because the other option is non-sustainable. I don't look at my bank account when I vote, I look at the future, and similarly in my personal life, I look at the future I want to have and I take steps to ensure that I get to that goal. I wanted a home, I wanted a cabin, I wanted my kids to go to college, and other things so I worked to get those things. I did not decide that someone else /owed/ me those things - and that is what I was talking about.
the largest growth of the middle class (and as a result the economy in general) occurred after the GI Bill funneled money into our economy.... people paid for college with government money. people paid for house in government subsidized tract housing communities and as a result contractors made money... and put money back into our economy.
why should banks not pay any interest when they borrow money but a college student should pay 9% on the funds they use to get an education?
why should we subsidize corporate welfare and rich agriculturists but not help students with a public education?
your questions are backwards.
great response.Being born here in America means we have just as much right to the protection of our working class interests as the major retailers have in protecting THEIR interests.Great would be for those who are willing to put in the effort to achieve the American Dream - rather than the current crop who thinks that simply by being born here they are entitled to a white picket fence. America /has/ forgotten what made America great.
If yo are going to say no borders for anyone, then let me go buy my stuff over the internet from India and China without paying import tariffs and we can all enjoy cheap third world costs TODAY.
But US retailers and manufacturers wont hear of that, oh, no, we have to protect their profit margins, even if it means we starve.
So till we get rid of ALL tariffs, we US workers have jsut as much right to get laws passed on our favor as the corrupt corporate capitalists do.
Period.
...uhm okay. Not sure how this relates to my post here, but there is a big difference between what I'm talking about and the current crops demand that wealthy folks who worked hard for what they've gained pay for those who feel they are entitled to free college, homes, medical care, etc. simply by living here. Hand up, not a hand out is my vision at the moment because the other option is non-sustainable. I don't look at my bank account when I vote, I look at the future, and similarly in my personal life, I look at the future I want to have and I take steps to ensure that I get to that goal. I wanted a home, I wanted a cabin, I wanted my kids to go to college, and other things so I worked to get those things. I did not decide that someone else /owed/ me those things - and that is what I was talking about.
the largest growth of the middle class (and as a result the economy in general) occurred after the GI Bill funneled money into our economy.... people paid for college with government money. people paid for house in government subsidized tract housing communities and as a result contractors made money... and put money back into our economy.
why should banks not pay any interest when they borrow money but a college student should pay 9% on the funds they use to get an education?
why should we subsidize corporate welfare and rich agriculturists but not help students with a public education?
your questions are backwards.
We're getting a bit OT here with all the socialist political movement yap, but ya know personally, I'd like to see no one homeless and no one going without food or medical care, I just don't agree that tax is the way to achieve that ultimate goal. Technology is a far more realistically sustainable solution, it's unfortunate that the transition into that "utopia" is going to be painful... IF taxes on the wealthy were going to a sustainable solution, I would be far more inclined to support it, but it's not, it's going to a completely unsustainable and unfair system of handouts that don't actually help in any kind of long run. It's a waste that isn't going to permanently solve the problem. I don't like Band-Aid solutions, sorry.
Youre talking about it in the abstract with no real experience to your belief that there should be no band aids. Without band aids real live people, children die, go hungry, etc. Its a process. Its holds things in place until a viable solution is found. The thing is like I said before. The capitalistic system cannot exist without those have nots. The have nots provide the wealth for the haves. Ironically they do this attempting to become haves.We're getting a bit OT here with all the socialist political movement yap, but ya know personally, I'd like to see no one homeless and no one going without food or medical care, I just don't agree that tax is the way to achieve that ultimate goal. Technology is a far more realistically sustainable solution, it's unfortunate that the transition into that "utopia" is going to be painful... IF taxes on the wealthy were going to a sustainable solution, I would be far more inclined to support it, but it's not, it's going to a completely unsustainable and unfair system of handouts that don't actually help in any kind of long run. It's a waste that isn't going to permanently solve the problem. I don't like Band-Aid solutions, sorry.
You are delusional.The maintenance crews in these so called robots warehouses are still quite large. Throw in refrigerated warehouses and the maintenance crews grow even larger.
And the pay tends to be pretty good if you're strong in motor controls, energy management and refrigeration.
40 an hour or so plus very liberal benefits. Stock options like 3 for 1 and so on. Don't bother applying if you're afraid of heights.
Easy. Teach your TV to say the ABC's without any additional programming. if you cant then you know that it cant really learn.How do you tell the difference between "simulated learning" and real learning? If you can't tell the difference, then aren't they exactly the same thing?
Computers can't design computers like humans because the later are still 10,000 times smarter than the former. That difference will disappear in about 20 years if Moore's law maintains.
Wake me when that becomes a reality instead of pretending its occurring now.Easy. Teach your TV to say the ABC's without any additional programming. if you cant then you know that it cant really learn.How do you tell the difference between "simulated learning" and real learning? If you can't tell the difference, then aren't they exactly the same thing?
Computers can't design computers like humans because the later are still 10,000 times smarter than the former. That difference will disappear in about 20 years if Moore's law maintains.
No one said your TV could learn, dumbass. That doesn't mean the in the future there won't be machines that can learn.
How do you tell the difference between "simulated learning" and real learning? If you can't tell the difference, then aren't they exactly the same thing?
No, they are not, but I hear your main point; it will allow robots to replace almost every human job.
Computers can't design computers like humans because the later are still 10,000 times smarter than the former. That difference will disappear in about 20 years if Moore's law maintains.
Correct.
So what do conservatives do to reduce the fears of those who are below the IQ of 120? Just take them out and shoot them? Give them free opium as much as they want till they die?
Wake me when that becomes a reality instead of pretending its occurring now.Easy. Teach your TV to say the ABC's without any additional programming. if you cant then you know that it cant really learn.How do you tell the difference between "simulated learning" and real learning? If you can't tell the difference, then aren't they exactly the same thing?
Computers can't design computers like humans because the later are still 10,000 times smarter than the former. That difference will disappear in about 20 years if Moore's law maintains.
No one said your TV could learn, dumbass. That doesn't mean the in the future there won't be machines that can learn.
When you asked how I could tell the difference between real learning and simulated learning.Wake me when that becomes a reality instead of pretending its occurring now.Easy. Teach your TV to say the ABC's without any additional programming. if you cant then you know that it cant really learn.How do you tell the difference between "simulated learning" and real learning? If you can't tell the difference, then aren't they exactly the same thing?
Computers can't design computers like humans because the later are still 10,000 times smarter than the former. That difference will disappear in about 20 years if Moore's law maintains.
No one said your TV could learn, dumbass. That doesn't mean the in the future there won't be machines that can learn.
When did I pretend it was occurring now?
You are a special kind of dumbass, aren't you?
