Zone1 Virginity and Sexual Promiscuity

[BreezeWood]

You've never provided evidence for anything.

despite the desert religions, persecution and victimization of the innocent championed by the likes of christians, jews and muslims, bing adorns all three and most people living in texas known as the bible belt nation wide and is their demise already written in their souls.

- your denial will not save you nor especially your phony 4th century christian religion ... have fun crucifier the lies are all yours.

 

[Vastator]

Having kids without a 6 figure next egg to help raise them is a contributor to divorce. Then the kids suffer through the process. The old 2 20 year Olds starting from nothing is slowly but surely losing it's grip. It's very hard for someone in their 20s to be ready for marriage and kids.

That was pretty much always a bad idea, and little more than a trope for country music. Throughout history most couples were paired off in their relatives primes. Her, in the prime of her youth, beauty, and fertility; and the man after having survived the social gauntlet, and having proven his ability to provide stability, and financial security to his would be wife, and children. Which almost always meant an older man with a younger woman.

 

[BreezeWood]

You should bang as many chicks as you can.

I'll donate $25 in your name if TNHarley can make sense of your post.

the lesser of them now claim mary was 14 not 12 when she chose love with joseph and at 14 not 12 as with some the moment more than their thoughts for many have been as is the will of the heavens transpired for them both - heavenly bound.

- those three wise men heavily armed sent by the heavens showed the zealot moses their blades for which moses knew better than sling their tablets or face their own retribution ... so claimed jesus for his mother.

 

[Vastator]

How many people do you have to sleep with to be considered promiscuous? Is it the same for boys as well as girls?

For women it's pretty much however many it takes to degrade, or destroy her ability to pair bond. Often between 3-5. Men psychologically are pretty much immune to this effect

 

[TNHarley]

Why? Are you the morality police or something?

You dont want 47 babies crawling around you when you are playing madden 25

 

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You dont want 47 babies crawling around you when you are playing madden 25

Then don't. Be a deadbeat dad. Live free. Be an anarchist.

 

[Crepitus]

As a 75 year old man, this subject is far off my normal radar screen, but I occasionally see comms by young adults on the subjects of virginity and sex. Through a process that I missed, I occasionally get "reddit" communications on the topic of "Am I the Asshole?"

When I was growing up in the 50's and 60's, girls and boys were taught that sex outside marriage was sinful, and should be avoided. As a further inducement, it was mentioned that sex often results in pregnancy, and in some cases, even a "social disease." This latter point was merely a footnote, since even if we were fooling around it would not be with people who were promiscuous or who patronized prostitutes. But at the time, there were no birth control pills and abortion was simply not an option. If you got pregnant, you had better come up with a husband, or your father would.

But the basic admonishment, to girls in particular, was, this is sinful, it is immoral, and sex is something you can look forward to when you get married. It was also widely considered that young men might not want to marry a young woman who was not a virgin, and believe me, this was a real concern. It was rare but not unheard of for a marriage proposal to be revoked (or whatever) when the man learned that the woman was not a virgin.

Among my own friends, while few couples were both virgins when they got married, for about half of them their girlfriend/fiance/wife was their first sexual partner. (And last, if you want to know the truth).

Are girls today even told that promiscuous sex is immoral, or sinful, or even unethical? Would a parent today even have a basis for telling his daughter such a thing? With no religion, on what would that admonishment be based? Seriously. If she "takes precautions," what do parents say to them to deter them from sexual promiscuity...when heading off to college, for example?

Or do they even give a shit?

YOu do know there is some middle ground there, right?

 

[Crepitus]

Then don't. Be a deadbeat dad. Live free. Be an anarchist.

Anarchy has nothing to do with being a deadbeat parent.

 

[TNHarley]

Be an anarchist

you talked me into it

 

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you talked me into it

I know my audience.

 

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Anarchy has nothing to do with being a deadbeat parent.

It has to do with following the norms of convention. The hell with your invisible code of common decency.

 

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the lesser of them now claim mary was 14 not 12 when she chose love with joseph and at 14 not 12 as with some the moment more than their thoughts for many have been as is the will of the heavens transpired for them both - heavenly bound.

- those three wise men heavily armed sent by the heavens showed the zealot moses their blades for which moses knew better than sling their tablets or face their own retribution ... so claimed jesus for his mother.

I think you are confusing passages.

 

[Crepitus]

It has to do with following the norms of convention. The hell with your invisible code of common decency.

Dude, this religious crap has really warped your perception of reality.

 

[BreezeWood]

I think you are confusing passages.

- those three wise men heavily armed sent by the heavens showed the zealot moses their blades for which moses knew better than sling their tablets or face their own retribution ... so claimed jesus for his mother.

only if you believe any passages of the christian bible are legibly written ... whether moses as present or not or their proxies makes little difference - they of course outlasted the wise men in the conclusion of the overall epic adventure as propelled by christianity and their lackey interpretation of those events.

 

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Dude, this religious crap has really warped your perception of reality.

How so? Morals are just human constructs, right? If I want to go around knocking up welfare mothers and leaving them holding the bag who is to say that is wrong? I got mine, right?

 

[Crepitus]

How so? Morals are just human constructs, right? If I want to go around knocking up welfare mothers and leaving them holding the bag who is to say that is wrong? I got mine, right?

LOL!!! Moral are indeed human constructs. That said, I am a human and I have my own set of morals. Fathering children I don't take care of is against them.

Which still has nothing to do with anarchy, which is a political view rather than anything doing with morals.

 

[Meriweather]

Which still has nothing to do with anarchy, which is a political view rather than anything doing with morals.

Anarchy means without a ruler or chief. For people of faith, morals come from the Creator of the universe. Where do your morals come from? For example, do you believe morals originate and are decided by each individual, that there is no one higher than self?

 

[Crepitus]

Anarchy means without a ruler or chief. For people of faith, morals come from the Creator of the universe. Where do your morals come from? For example, do you believe morals originate and are decided by each individual, that there is no one higher than self?

Morals are a product of your society. Nothing more. No mythical sky beings needed.

 

[Meriweather]

Morals are a product of your society. Nothing more. No mythical sky beings needed.

I'm not speaking of how I see morals, but your take on them. You mentioned society. Do you feel is is society's job to oversee the duties involved with fatherhood? For example, if a father decides not to support or care for his children, society should track him down and insist that he do so?

 

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LOL!!! Moral are indeed human constructs. That said, I am a human and I have my own set of morals. Fathering children I don't take care of is against them.

Which still has nothing to do with anarchy, which is a political view rather than anything doing with morals.

So morals are absolute and universal? Who knew?