Zone1 Virginity and Sexual Promiscuity

[initforme]

Money makes life easier but not having it is only a problem in your mind.

Failure to prepare is preparing to fail. In america it's wise to have a surplus of money before entering into marriage. Working together and building together is no longer viable. Money problems are huge contributors to divorce. Waiting is simply now the better choice especially for the nation.

 

[Votto]

Your attitude is part of the general decline of morality

They have rejected the wisdom of God for the wisdom of the Left, such as Joe Biden and company.

Marriage is a religious institution to begin with, and as we see with Joe Biden, someone who stole another man's wife which goes against Biblical teaching, marriage to him is just a financial arrangement.

 

[Votto]

The number of marriages is declining. There's alot more single people in their 30s and 40s than ever.

As the Christian faith wanes, so will marriage.

Why is the state involved anyway? On a secular level, why should people get state perks for their sexual arrangement? From a secular perspective, sex is like going to the bathroom, no big deal.

Crazy.

From a secular human perspective, there is no such thing as love anyway. So, for them, marriage is just a financial arrangement.

 

[alang1216]

They have rejected the wisdom of God for the wisdom of the Left, such as Joe Biden and company.

Marriage is a religious institution to begin with, and as we see with Joe Biden, someone who stole another man's wife which goes against Biblical teaching, marriage to him is just a financial arrangement.

Do you judge Trump by the same standard?

 

[alang1216]

Failure to prepare is preparing to fail. In america it's wise to have a surplus of money before entering into marriage. Working together and building together is no longer viable. Money problems are huge contributors to divorce. Waiting is simply now the better choice especially for the nation.

Money is an issue if we put too much weight on it. Do we all need a bigger house, faster car, etc.? How many billionaires are divorced?

 

[Mac-7]

"Decline" is your word, 'maturing' would be mine. My daughter is still married after 10 years (not including the time they lived together) while the US average length of marriage is only 8 years.

I dont know your daughter and her story means nothing to me

Society is pretty sick, as you even concede with the US average for marriage being only 8 years

 

[Votto]

Do you judge Trump by the same standard?

Sure. I don't view Trump as a Christian because he was asked if he ever asked for God for forgiveness, to which he replied....

 

[alang1216]

I don't know your daughter and her story means nothing to me

She has a husband, two kids, works, and owns her own home. Just anecdotal evidence that living together didn't lead to any degeneration of society's morality.

Society is pretty sick, as you even concede with the US average for marriage being only 8 years

And the solution is to have only successful people get married and have kids? Would not have worked in my case. My wife and I had little when we married but together we've raised two successful kids and can comfortably retire. Even though we too lived together before marriage.

 

[alang1216]

They have rejected the wisdom of God for the wisdom of the Left, such as Joe Biden and company.

Marriage is a religious institution to begin with, and as we see with Joe Biden, someone who stole another man's wife which goes against Biblical teaching, marriage to him is just a financial arrangement.

Sure. I don't view Trump as a Christian because he was asked if he ever asked for God for forgiveness, to which he replied....

So you should have written: "They have rejected the wisdom of God for the wisdom of the Left, such as Joe Biden and company and for the wisdom of the Right, such as Trump.

 

[ding]

How many partners does it take to be promiscuous? Most of my peers lived together before marriage, I did, and I'm only a little younger than you. I strongly encouraged my daughter to live with her boy friend before they married since it carries no sigma anymore and probably avoids many a divorce.

Living together is not really an example of promiscuity. Did you counsel her to go sleep with as many men as possible before selecting a mate because THAT would be a good example of promiscuity.

And if you didn't, why not?

 

[Mac-7]

She has a husband, two kids, works, and owns her own home. Just anecdotal evidence that living together didn't lead to any degeneration of society's morality.


And the solution is to have only successful people get married and have kids? Would not have worked in my case. My wife and I had little when we married but together we've raised two successful kids and can comfortably retire. Even though we too lived together before marriage.

On the internet every lib’s personal story is exceptional

And impossible to prove or disprove

 

[alang1216]

Living together is not really an example of promiscuity. Did you counsel her to go sleep with as many men as possible before selecting a mate because THAT would be a good example of promiscuity.

And if you didn't, why not?

That I did not advise her to do but I trusted her to make her own decisions.

 

[alang1216]

On the internet every lib’s personal story is exceptional

And impossible to prove or disprove

If you think my story is exceptional you need to reevaluate your standards.

 

[ding]

That I did not advise her to do but I trusted her to make her own decisions.

Why didn't you advise her to do that? Is it because you believed that was a behavior that led to poor outcomes?

 

[alang1216]

Why didn't you advise her to do that? Is it because you believed that was a behavior that led to poor outcomes?

Human sexuality is as complex a thing as they come. I think two people can do the same thing, one having a positive reason, one have a negative reason.

 

[ding]

Human sexuality is as complex a thing as they come. I think two people can do the same thing, one having a positive reason, one have a negative reason.

I thought it might be a hard question for you. The short answer is, yes, probabilistically speaking it would lead to poor outcomes.

 

[ding]

That I did not advise her to do but I trusted her to make her own decisions.

I get that we have to trust our children to do the right things and when they don't, to learn from them. But did you seriously have no opinion on the matter? And if you did have an opinion, isn't part of the job of parents to advise our children on the things they should and should not do? So I am curious why you wouldn't have taught don't go sleeping around with a bunch of boys, nothing but bad can come from that.

 

[alang1216]

I thought it might be a hard question for you. The short answer is, yes, probabilistically speaking it would lead to poor outcomes.

How many people do you have to sleep with to be considered promiscuous? Is it the same for boys as well as girls?

 

[alang1216]

I get that we have to trust our children to do the right things and when they don't, to learn from them. But did you seriously have no opinion on the matter? And if you did have an opinion, isn't part of the job of parents to advise our children on the things they should and should not do? So I am curious why you wouldn't have taught don't go sleeping around with a bunch of boys, nothing but bad can come from that.

My daughter was bright, well adjusted, and always displayed sound judgement. I never saw the need to micromanage her relationships since she saw the example of my wife and me.

 

[ding]

How many people do you have to sleep with to be considered promiscuous? Is it the same for boys as well as girls?

I saw a study on that. I think it's on my other computer. I'll see if I can't link to it. It was pretty interesting findings. It was comparing females to males and the impact of increased female promiscuity on things like unwed mothers, divorce, single mothers, violence against women, etc.

Basically it said there was a time when female promiscuity was well below that of men and that as their promiscuity rose to that of men so did the statistical number of poor outcomes. Made sense to me. Women should not be like men.