Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s house

[beagle9]

It's not possible for the McMichaels to have known his intentions and no, only the police can lawfully stop someone utilizing force. Or a bounty hunter.

Of course it is, your son warned him days before to stay off the property, then you see him again running away with something in his hand? How many more times is Arbery going to taunt neighbors with his brazen actions? All actions have consequences.. The boys called him while on the phone with the cops and Arbery attacked a man with a shot gun. Why is that ok? Do you want this neighborhood to continue to be terrorized?

Let all things be done decent and in order.

All things here are way out of order.

That's why we have law and supposed order in this country.

All we are getting is hearsay when talk about he said she said, so at this point the law kicks in to get to the bottom of this mess. Speculation is all over the place, but that doesn't wash in a case that is as volital as this one is .

Well just take the video,, it’s shows all we need an attack on a man with a gun

Well let's see if the investigation states that as fact (self defence), otherwise to state what led up to the death of Arbery be it this or that.

To me you can charge them with being stupid but Travis had a right to protect him self.

Not sure how it will go. Without all the evidence to review, it's pure speculation outside of the court proceedings.

we see the video

Not enough. Just one part of it.

It’s enough for me. NOT GUILTY

Ok, for you.

If your the jury, based on what you saw, that’s it.. is he guilty of murder?

Putting the cart ahead of the horse is never the right thing to do.

It's not possible for the McMichaels to have known his intentions and no, only the police can lawfully stop someone utilizing force. Or a bounty hunter.

Of course it is, your son warned him days before to stay off the property, then you see him again running away with something in his hand? How many more times is Arbery going to taunt neighbors with his brazen actions? All actions have consequences.. The boys called him while on the phone with the cops and Arbery attacked a man with a shot gun. Why is that ok? Do you want this neighborhood to continue to be terrorized?

Let all things be done decent and in order.

All things here are way out of order.

That's why we have law and supposed order in this country.

All we are getting is hearsay when talk about he said she said, so at this point the law kicks in to get to the bottom of this mess. Speculation is all over the place, but that doesn't wash in a case that is as volital as this one is .

Well just take the video,, it’s shows all we need an attack on a man with a gun

Well let's see if the investigation states that as fact, otherwise to state what led up to the death of Arbery be it this or that.

To me you can charge them with being stupid but Travis had a right to protect him self.

Not sure how it will go. Without all the evidence to review, it's pure speculation outside of the court proceedings.

we see the video

Not enough. Just one part of it.

It’s enough for me. NOT GUILTY

Ok, for you.

If your the jury, based on what you saw, that’s it.. is he guilty of murder?

Who is guilty of murder ?

Seriously?

Seriously, you touted a rebel flag in one of your post when dealing with a case like this ??...lol... So now everyone knows who you think is either guilty, and who is not guilty based upon your photograph of the flag you posted in the context of ?? So it is known as to the the answer of what you believe, otherwise after being cornered a few times by others here in which caused you to post that flag in defiance of what they think or believe justice should look like in a case like this ??

It's ok though, because the investigation and the courts will have the final say, and hopefully all will be shaken out to everyone's satisfaction in the end.

No revenge taken, and no civil war started, just good ole American justice being administered hopefully, and that's all anyone can ask for in the end.

Not like a jury never gets it wrong. You miss the point of all this....the battle for public opinion.

That is the advantage the msm has....they have the ability to spread their propaganda for and wide. They essentially have access to every home in America. Do you not think thus they have a huge advantage in the battle for public opinion?

However their big weakness is that people are beginning to understand how the media lies and how they have degenerated into little more than a outlet for liberal propaganda.

We who oppose the media also have a huge advantage in that we are standing up for the truth. Though their readers far surpass ours, the truth has a way of getting out and thus that is what motivates the truth seekers.

Thus many come on here to help spread the truth...others come on here to subvert or to try and squash the truth...again all in the name of the court of public opinion and to influence it one way or the other.

Why someone would come on here and say it is a waste of time to talk about this and instead should just sit back and wait for the trial are severely mistaken.

People need to get involved....as has been said many times........"all that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing". Every little bit of truth that is put out there in the ether world helps. To sit back and keep our mouths closed is just asking or inviting the forces opposed to liberty and the American way to triumph.

Good read, and agreeable, just as long as we all don't get caught up in someone's game to also push an unworkable agenda because of their own personal biases and beliefs.

 

[beagle9]

It's not possible for the McMichaels to have known his intentions and no, only the police can lawfully stop someone utilizing force. Or a bounty hunter.

Of course it is, your son warned him days before to stay off the property, then you see him again running away with something in his hand? How many more times is Arbery going to taunt neighbors with his brazen actions? All actions have consequences.. The boys called him while on the phone with the cops and Arbery attacked a man with a shot gun. Why is that ok? Do you want this neighborhood to continue to be terrorized?

Let all things be done decent and in order.

All things here are way out of order.

That's why we have law and supposed order in this country.

All we are getting is hearsay when talk about he said she said, so at this point the law kicks in to get to the bottom of this mess. Speculation is all over the place, but that doesn't wash in a case that is as volital as this one is .

Well just take the video,, it’s shows all we need an attack on a man with a gun

Well let's see if the investigation states that as fact, otherwise to state what led up to the death of Arbery be it this or that.

To me you can charge them with being stupid but Travis had a right to protect him self.

Not sure how it will go. Without all the evidence to review, it's pure speculation outside of the court proceedings.

we see the video

Not enough. Just one part of it.

It’s enough for me. NOT GUILTY

Ok, for you.

If your the jury, based on what you saw, that’s it.. is he guilty of murder?

Who is guilty of murder ?

When you take a life while engaged in self defense it is not called murder but justifiable homicide.

Yes, in self defence, but the case has not been vetted completely, yet you draw your conclusions on what evidence there is in completion of, if it has not been completed vetted yet ?? I'm not willing to complete the analysis before the completed evidence is all in, and a review of it all is given with court verdicts issued .

Well, you are in for a long wait.

Yes, some cases are drawn out for long periods of time, and this could very well be one of those cases all due to the chaos involved in it all.

In truth it is a very simple case with good evidence available . The chaos is a result of the media attempting to confuse people and spin this case into something it is not. Right off the bat they come out with the outrageous headline of Evil white racist hunt negroes to kill......in a effort to stir up and incite the black community to get all agitated and bring political pressure to bear on the politicians in Atlanta to take control and reverse a legitimate investigation by the local authorities. George Zimmerman case all over again.

Thus the real issue or the most important issue of this case is one of corrupt politicians caving into media pressure and a dishonest media performing as usual. Covering up the truth the best they can and constantly spinning and distorting the facts of the case to try and divide America.....that is what really needs to be addressed.

Why the delay of the case for months, and a trial or hearing not set in the normal time period if it is an easy case ?

 

[beagle9]

it is certainly not illegal to follow the suspect

Let’s cut the crap that the gunmen were just following the jogger. They had firearms and used them in an effort to try to detain the jogger and prevent his movement.

when they parked on the road holding the deadly weapons the were committing aggravated assault.

This scene is aggravated assault according to Georgia Law and it is a felony no matter what the jogger did or didnt do.

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Maybe not a jogger ? It's not aggravated assault until the act of assault is committed, and then that is determined not by the men holding guns in their possession, but by what means did they use the guns, and by what means did the situation either be it caused or not caused lead up to them using the guns ?

 

[TheGreenHornet]

It’s true the act of continually going into that house was a provocative act,, Arbery was told not to go ! Our neighbors supposed to sit there and be terrorized? They followed him until the cops came, he got shot

This is the first I'm hearing of the property owner telling Arbery not to go into the house. When did that happen? Because if anyone ELSE told him not to(besides the police maybe) it doesn't matter because they have about as much authority as my left toe. He didn't steal anything, no one SAW him steal anything, and because the two people involved in his death didn't see him steal anything they had no right to try and Citizens arrest him.

They should go to jail.

Greg McMichael as a former policeman had been appointed by the police as the point man or the man to go to regarding all the reports of trespassing at the home under construction....thus he had official sanction to be involved and thus your accusation he was taking the law into his own hands is ridiculous.

Even without his status as a former policeman and being officially tagged as the go to man in this case, just as a private citizen if one has reason to believe there is a criminal running down the street and in fact yo see him with your own eyes in front of your house it is certainly not illegal to follow the suspect in order to help the police apprehend the suspect.

Holy God that is not how life works, you don't get to be "Appointed go to man" and then get to do what you want outside of the law. That shit is likely illegal as all hell, but the main point is it doesn't matter if the police made him a Point of Contact because he's a NORMAL CITIZEN and has NO AUTHORITY to detain anyone unless he meets the criteria for a citizens arrest.

Until someone can prove Aubery committed a crime what the Dad and Son did is the only crime here. Because the rules of a Citizens arrest require you are aware of/have directly witnessed said crime. Trespassing? Only if the owner told him to stay away from his under construction home. Stealing? The Homeowner already said nothing was stolen and I've not seen any police report saying stolen property was recovered.

Go directly to jail.

You seem unaware that no citizens arrest was even made. Arguments can be made till the cows come home regarding whether or not they had a legal right to make a citizens arrest.

Greg McMichaels...the father did say or at least was reported as saying they "intended to make a Citizens Arrest" yet no such arrest was made. That is something that is being used by the leftwingers to divert attention from the truth of this case.


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The act of detaining in legal custody: the arrest of a criminal suspect. The state of being so detained: a suspect under arrest.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

It's not possible for the McMichaels to have known his intentions and no, only the police can lawfully stop someone utilizing force. Or a bounty hunter.

Of course it is, your son warned him days before to stay off the property, then you see him again running away with something in his hand? How many more times is Arbery going to taunt neighbors with his brazen actions? All actions have consequences.. The boys called him while on the phone with the cops and Arbery attacked a man with a shot gun. Why is that ok? Do you want this neighborhood to continue to be terrorized?

Let all things be done decent and in order.

All things here are way out of order.

That's why we have law and supposed order in this country.

All we are getting is hearsay when talk about he said she said, so at this point the law kicks in to get to the bottom of this mess. Speculation is all over the place, but that doesn't wash in a case that is as volital as this one is .

Well just take the video,, it’s shows all we need an attack on a man with a gun

Well let's see if the investigation states that as fact, otherwise to state what led up to the death of Arbery be it this or that.

To me you can charge them with being stupid but Travis had a right to protect him self.

Not sure how it will go. Without all the evidence to review, it's pure speculation outside of the court proceedings.

we see the video

Not enough. Just one part of it.

It’s enough for me. NOT GUILTY

Ok, for you.

If your the jury, based on what you saw, that’s it.. is he guilty of murder?

Who is guilty of murder ?

When you take a life while engaged in self defense it is not called murder but justifiable homicide.

Yes, in self defence, but the case has not been vetted completely, yet you draw your conclusions on what evidence there is in completion of, if it has not been completed vetted yet ?? I'm not willing to complete the analysis before the completed evidence is all in, and a review of it all is given with court verdicts issued .

Well, you are in for a long wait.

Yes, some cases are drawn out for long periods of time, and this could very well be one of those cases all due to the chaos involved in it all.

In truth it is a very simple case with good evidence available . The chaos is a result of the media attempting to confuse people and spin this case into something it is not. Right off the bat they come out with the outrageous headline of Evil white racist hunt negroes to kill......in a effort to stir up and incite the black community to get all agitated and bring political pressure to bear on the politicians in Atlanta to take control and reverse a legitimate investigation by the local authorities. George Zimmerman case all over again.

Thus the real issue or the most important issue of this case is one of corrupt politicians caving into media pressure and a dishonest media performing as usual. Covering up the truth the best they can and constantly spinning and distorting the facts of the case to try and divide America.....that is what really needs to be addressed.

Why the delay of the case for months, and a trial or hearing not set in the normal time period if it is an easy case ?

The political authorities in Atlanta fear riots may break out in this majority black city...thus they want to slow everything down and give the blacks time to cool off as they have been led astray and are agitated due to media propaganda designed to do just that.

Thus they are motivated to slow this case down as much as possible.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

it is certainly not illegal to follow the suspect

Let’s cut the crap that the gunmen were just following the jogger. They had firearms and used them in an effort to try to detain the jogger and prevent his movement.

when they parked on the road holding the deadly weapons the were committing aggravated assault.

This scene is aggravated assault according to Georgia Law and it is a felony no matter what the jogger did or didnt do.

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Maybe not a jogger ? It's not aggravated assault until the act of assault is committed, and then that is determined not by the men holding guns in their possession, but by what means did they use the guns, and by what means did the situation either be it caused or not caused lead up to them using the guns ?

The only assault in this case was when Ahmaud attacked Travis.

Unfortunately in this case just like in the Zimmerman case lots of folks who have little or no understanding of the law or the facts of the case come on the boards and give their personal opinions like that carries some weight....just clogging up the board with nonsense.

 

[Jitss617]

It's not possible for the McMichaels to have known his intentions and no, only the police can lawfully stop someone utilizing force. Or a bounty hunter.

Of course it is, your son warned him days before to stay off the property, then you see him again running away with something in his hand? How many more times is Arbery going to taunt neighbors with his brazen actions? All actions have consequences.. The boys called him while on the phone with the cops and Arbery attacked a man with a shot gun. Why is that ok? Do you want this neighborhood to continue to be terrorized?

Let all things be done decent and in order.

All things here are way out of order.

That's why we have law and supposed order in this country.

All we are getting is hearsay when talk about he said she said, so at this point the law kicks in to get to the bottom of this mess. Speculation is all over the place, but that doesn't wash in a case that is as volital as this one is .

Well just take the video,, it’s shows all we need an attack on a man with a gun

Well let's see if the investigation states that as fact (self defence), otherwise to state what led up to the death of Arbery be it this or that.

To me you can charge them with being stupid but Travis had a right to protect him self.

Not sure how it will go. Without all the evidence to review, it's pure speculation outside of the court proceedings.

we see the video

Not enough. Just one part of it.

It’s enough for me. NOT GUILTY

Ok, for you.

If your the jury, based on what you saw, that’s it.. is he guilty of murder?

Putting the cart ahead of the horse is never the right thing to do.

It's not possible for the McMichaels to have known his intentions and no, only the police can lawfully stop someone utilizing force. Or a bounty hunter.

Of course it is, your son warned him days before to stay off the property, then you see him again running away with something in his hand? How many more times is Arbery going to taunt neighbors with his brazen actions? All actions have consequences.. The boys called him while on the phone with the cops and Arbery attacked a man with a shot gun. Why is that ok? Do you want this neighborhood to continue to be terrorized?

Let all things be done decent and in order.

All things here are way out of order.

That's why we have law and supposed order in this country.

All we are getting is hearsay when talk about he said she said, so at this point the law kicks in to get to the bottom of this mess. Speculation is all over the place, but that doesn't wash in a case that is as volital as this one is .

Well just take the video,, it’s shows all we need an attack on a man with a gun

Well let's see if the investigation states that as fact, otherwise to state what led up to the death of Arbery be it this or that.

To me you can charge them with being stupid but Travis had a right to protect him self.

Not sure how it will go. Without all the evidence to review, it's pure speculation outside of the court proceedings.

we see the video

Not enough. Just one part of it.

It’s enough for me. NOT GUILTY

Ok, for you.

If your the jury, based on what you saw, that’s it.. is he guilty of murder?

Who is guilty of murder ?

Seriously?

Seriously, you touted a rebel flag in one of your post when dealing with a case like this ??...lol... So now everyone knows who you think is either guilty, and who is not guilty based upon your photograph of the flag you posted in the context of ?? So it is known as to the the answer of what you believe, otherwise after being cornered a few times by others here in which caused you to post that flag in defiance of what they think or believe justice should look like in a case like this ??

It's ok though, because the investigation and the courts will have the final say, and hopefully all will be shaken out to everyone's satisfaction in the end.

No revenge taken, and no civil war started, just good ole American justice being administered hopefully, and that's all anyone can ask for in the end.

What’s wrong with the flag in regards to this case?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

It's not aggravated assault until the act of assault is committed, and then that is determined not by the men holding guns in their possession, but by what means did they use the guns, and by what means did the situation either be it caused or not caused lead up to them using the guns ?

What you wrote is not true according to Georgia Law:


in OCGA 16-5-20?

A person commits the offense of simple assault when he or she either: or

1. Commits an act which places another in reasonable apprehension of immediately receiving a violent injury.

What circumstances transform simple assault into aggravated assault?

The presence of any one of the following conditions will make assault aggravated:

2. Use of deadly weapon or any object, device, or instrument which is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury.
Actual injury is not required. Mere possibility that serious injury would result from the use of deadly weapon, object, device, or instrument is enough. The “deadly” nature or character of a weapon is determined by the jury. Any “object, device, or instrument” that has the potential of being used offensively against a person can be considered an instrument of aggression.

Basics Of Aggravated Assault In Georgia

The Official Code of Georgia Annotated (OCGA) 16-5-21(b) states that a person commits the offense of aggravated assault when he or she assaults: With intent

bixonlaw.com

I don’t believe an argument can be made that two white men displaying deadly weapons and a third white man using his car to block and detain an unarmed black man jogging down a street did not place the jogger in reasonable apprehension of immediately receiving a violent injury.

Standing in the road with a shotgun as shown below fits the definition of aggravated assault in Georgia Law.

and the gunmen cannot claim self defense when they are in the act of committing a felony,

 

[Jitss617]

This is the first I'm hearing of the property owner telling Arbery not to go into the house.

The property owner was telling neighbors ppl were entering his property, he got a camera, he told the police Because the police deputized McMichaels as a neighborhood watch.. Get informed before you post

Until someone can prove Aubery committed a crime

seriously? Why was he caught running out of the house with a hammer?

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

These people can’t be reasoned with. There is VIDEO evidence of this thug WALKING, not “jogging”, until he bolts up the driveway into the house. There is VIDEO evidence of him trespassing inside.

It is not uncommon for people to take a break while they are jogging and walk for a spell.

Walk Breaks While Running

Is taking walk breaks while running cheating? A run-walk program helps runners increase endurance and build strength with less pain and injury.

www.thepeacefulrunner.com

 

[Jitss617]

These people can’t be reasoned with. There is VIDEO evidence of this thug WALKING, not “jogging”, until he bolts up the driveway into the house. There is VIDEO evidence of him trespassing inside.

It is not uncommon for people to take a break while they are jogging and walk for a spell.

Walk Breaks While Running

Is taking walk breaks while running cheating? A run-walk program helps runners increase endurance and build strength with less pain and injury.

www.thepeacefulrunner.com

And go in to a house Travis told him it wise to stay out of?? Then run like you stole something? Lol

 

[texmaster]

it is certainly not illegal to follow the suspect

Let’s cut the crap that the gunmen were just following the jogger. They had firearms and used them in an effort to try to detain the jogger and prevent his movement.

when they parked on the road holding the deadly weapons the were committing aggravated assault.

This scene is aggravated assault according to Georgia Law and it is a felony no matter what the jogger did or didnt do.

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So we've got another liberal who can't read.

No one pointed guns at your thief until he attacked so stop lying about what happened.

And no one even attempted to detain him. Be smart enough to actually know what words mean.

Definition of detain

transitive verb
1: to hold or keep in or as if in custodydetained by the police for questioning


You can't detain someone by never moving towards them Genius.

Your thief attacked under zero threat to his life. ZERO. The video proves it. He committed aggravated assault according to the law and deserved every bullet he got for it.

And for God's sake learn the law.

(a) A person commits the offense of aggravated assault when he or she assaults:

• (1) With intent to murder, to rape, or to rob;
• (2) With a deadly weapon or with any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury;
• (3) With any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in strangulation; or
• (4) A person or persons without legal justification by discharging a firearm from within a motor vehicle toward a person or persons.

Never did either man point or raise their weapon towards your thief until he attacked.

But go ahead, quote the part of the law of agg assault and the actions on video taken by either men that justifies it against your thief.

All your liberal buddies so far have tucked their tail between their legs when challenged. I doubt you will be any different.

 

[texmaster]

These people can’t be reasoned with. There is VIDEO evidence of this thug WALKING, not “jogging”, until he bolts up the driveway into the house. There is VIDEO evidence of him trespassing inside.

It is not uncommon for people to take a break while they are jogging and walk for a spell.

Walk Breaks While Running

Is taking walk breaks while running cheating? A run-walk program helps runners increase endurance and build strength with less pain and injury.

www.thepeacefulrunner.com

Yes. Runners routinely rest by trespassing into other people's houses. Especially those with a criminal record.

Are you for real?

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

And go in to a house Travis told him it wise to stay out of?? Then run like you stole something? Lol

Where is the evidence (or link) of how fast he was running?

 

[Jitss617]

And go in to a house Travis told him it wise to stay out of?? Then run like you stole something? Lol

Where is the evidence (or link) of how fast he was running?

Lol there is a video of him running from
The house damn girl get informed

 

[Meathead]

These people can’t be reasoned with. There is VIDEO evidence of this thug WALKING, not “jogging”, until he bolts up the driveway into the house. There is VIDEO evidence of him trespassing inside.

It is not uncommon for people to take a break while they are jogging and walk for a spell.

Walk Breaks While Running

Is taking walk breaks while running cheating? A run-walk program helps runners increase endurance and build strength with less pain and injury.

www.thepeacefulrunner.com

Yes. Runners routinely rest by trespassing into other people's houses. Especially those with a criminal record.

Are you for real?

Maybe "Arbery Jogging" could be a new Olympic sport: Jog - Case - Haul Ass. You know, like that ski - shoot thing.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

And go in to a house Travis told him it wise to stay out of?? Then run like you stole something? Lol

Where is the evidence (or link) of how fast he was running?

Lol there is a video of him running from
The house damn girl get informed

I guess she will say the McMichaels are guilty because they didn't have a time watch on how fast the suspect was running.....Greg McMichaels did say that as he was going by his house that the suspect was "hauling ass" meaning running fast.

That is something else a lot of posters miss, that the suspect started haulng ass the moment the neighbor came out and called 911.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

These people can’t be reasoned with. There is VIDEO evidence of this thug WALKING, not “jogging”, until he bolts up the driveway into the house. There is VIDEO evidence of him trespassing inside.

It is not uncommon for people to take a break while they are jogging and walk for a spell.

Walk Breaks While Running

Is taking walk breaks while running cheating? A run-walk program helps runners increase endurance and build strength with less pain and injury.

www.thepeacefulrunner.com

Yes. Runners routinely rest by trespassing into other people's houses. Especially those with a criminal record.

Are you for real?

Maybe Arbery Jogging could be a new Olympic sport: Jog - Case - Haul Ass. You know, like that ski - shoot thing.

LMAO.....

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

It's not possible for the McMichaels to have known his intentions and no, only the police can lawfully stop someone utilizing force. Or a bounty hunter.

Of course it is, your son warned him days before to stay off the property, then you see him again running away with something in his hand? How many more times is Arbery going to taunt neighbors with his brazen actions? All actions have consequences.. The boys called him while on the phone with the cops and Arbery attacked a man with a shot gun. Why is that ok? Do you want this neighborhood to continue to be terrorized?

Let all things be done decent and in order.

All things here are way out of order.

That's why we have law and supposed order in this country.

All we are getting is hearsay when talk about he said she said, so at this point the law kicks in to get to the bottom of this mess. Speculation is all over the place, but that doesn't wash in a case that is as volital as this one is .

Well just take the video,, it’s shows all we need an attack on a man with a gun

Well let's see if the investigation states that as fact, otherwise to state what led up to the death of Arbery be it this or that.

To me you can charge them with being stupid but Travis had a right to protect him self.

Not sure how it will go. Without all the evidence to review, it's pure speculation outside of the court proceedings.

we see the video

Not enough. Just one part of it.

It’s enough for me. NOT GUILTY

Ok, for you.

If your the jury, based on what you saw, that’s it.. is he guilty of murder?

Who is guilty of murder ?

When you take a life while engaged in self defense it is not called murder but justifiable homicide.

And you can't claim self-defense when you initiated the confrontation.

How much sense does it make when you have to arm yourself because you don't know whether the person you're intending on confronting is armed or not? And they were so convinced [erroneously] that Arbery was armed that they rolled him over after he lay dead on the ground to see if he had a gun in his hand which he did not [bummer].

Sounds to me they were hoping he was armed to give them an excuse to shoot him and that Greg McMichael was jonsing for his glory days as a cop when he had the authority to chase down bad guys and ruin their day by arresting them. Well most of the time. At least on those days when his powers to arrest hadn't been revoked.

 

[Jitss617]

It's not possible for the McMichaels to have known his intentions and no, only the police can lawfully stop someone utilizing force. Or a bounty hunter.

Of course it is, your son warned him days before to stay off the property, then you see him again running away with something in his hand? How many more times is Arbery going to taunt neighbors with his brazen actions? All actions have consequences.. The boys called him while on the phone with the cops and Arbery attacked a man with a shot gun. Why is that ok? Do you want this neighborhood to continue to be terrorized?

Let all things be done decent and in order.

All things here are way out of order.

That's why we have law and supposed order in this country.

All we are getting is hearsay when talk about he said she said, so at this point the law kicks in to get to the bottom of this mess. Speculation is all over the place, but that doesn't wash in a case that is as volital as this one is .

Well just take the video,, it’s shows all we need an attack on a man with a gun

Well let's see if the investigation states that as fact, otherwise to state what led up to the death of Arbery be it this or that.

To me you can charge them with being stupid but Travis had a right to protect him self.

Not sure how it will go. Without all the evidence to review, it's pure speculation outside of the court proceedings.

we see the video

Not enough. Just one part of it.

It’s enough for me. NOT GUILTY

Ok, for you.

If your the jury, based on what you saw, that’s it.. is he guilty of murder?

Who is guilty of murder ?

When you take a life while engaged in self defense it is not called murder but justifiable homicide.

And you can't claim self-defense when you initiated the confrontation.

How much sense does it make when you have to arm yourself because you don't know whether the person you're intending on confronting is armed or not? And they were so convinced [erroneously] that Arbery was armed that they rolled him over after he lay dead on the ground to see if he had a gun in his hand which he did not [bummer].

Sounds to me they were hoping he was armed to give them an excuse to shoot him and that Greg McMichael was jonsing for his glory days as a cop when he had the authority to chase down bad guys and ruin their day by arresting them. Well most of the time. At least on those days when his powers to arrest hadn't been revoked.

Your excuse for Arbery doesn’t make sense,, the video shows him attacking Travis,, with a shot gun in his hand, was he supposed to freeze and hand him the gun? Why didn’t Arbery demand he put the gun down before he accelerated towards him? There is no grey area, this was self
Defense