Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s house

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

It's not possible for the McMichaels to have known his intentions and no, only the police can lawfully stop someone utilizing force. Or a bounty hunter.

Of course it is, your son warned him days before to stay off the property, then you see him again running away with something in his hand? How many more times is Arbery going to taunt neighbors with his brazen actions? All actions have consequences.. The boys called him while on the phone with the cops and Arbery attacked a man with a shot gun. Why is that ok? Do you want this neighborhood to continue to be terrorized?

Let all things be done decent and in order.

All things here are way out of order.

That's why we have law and supposed order in this country.

All we are getting is hearsay when talk about he said she said, so at this point the law kicks in to get to the bottom of this mess. Speculation is all over the place, but that doesn't wash in a case that is as volital as this one is .

Well just take the video,, it’s shows all we need an attack on a man with a gun

Well let's see if the investigation states that as fact, otherwise to state what led up to the death of Arbery be it this or that.

To me you can charge them with being stupid but Travis had a right to protect him self.

Not sure how it will go. Without all the evidence to review, it's pure speculation outside of the court proceedings.

we see the video

Not enough. Just one part of it.

It’s enough for me. NOT GUILTY

Ok, for you.

If your the jury, based on what you saw, that’s it.. is he guilty of murder?

Who is guilty of murder ?

When you take a life while engaged in self defense it is not called murder but justifiable homicide.

And you can't claim self-defense when you initiated the confrontation.

How much sense does it make when you have to arm yourself because you don't know whether the person you're intending on confronting is armed or not? And they were so convinced [erroneously] that Arbery was armed that they rolled him over after he lay dead on the ground to see if he had a gun in his hand which he did not [bummer].

Sounds to me they were hoping he was armed to give them an excuse to shoot him and that Greg McMichael was jonsing for his glory days as a cop when he had the authority to chase down bad guys and ruin their day by arresting them. Well most of the time. At least on those days when his powers to arrest hadn't been revoked.

Your excuse for Arbery doesn’t make sense,, the video shows him attacking Travis,, with a shot gun in his hand, was he supposed to freeze and hand him the gun? Why didn’t Arbery demand he put the gun down before he accelerated towards him? There is no grey area, this was self
Defense

Let me ask you something. If it were you in this situation, would it have even crossed your mind what you would do if the person you're wanting to arrest if he fails to cooperate with you? Other people have rights to and when you're not the police and you're attempting to force them to comply with your demands, all kinds of bad things can happen as we see in this case.

If nothing else, the McMichaels will likily be found liable for Arbery's wrongful death and it's much easier to prevail in a civil suit than a criminal one but if the family prevails in criminal court, the civil case should be a slam dunk.

Where do you see a arrest attempt? The police officer
Was in the truck.. there was no attempt, Travis was probably going to yell something at him as he ran by.

Do you mind citing the source of that document you posted last, it would be nice to know who the author is.

In any case the document you posted last cited two laws - the one on Georgia State's citizen's arrest and the one on open carry. I can only presume that the reason for citing these specific laws is because the McMichaels in their "witness" statements told the police that the reason they were pursuing Arbery was so that they could perform a citizen's arrest. And the person who wrote the report used the text of the laws, even though he didn't interpret them properly to justify their decision to not arrest or charge the individuals who are now the defendants in the case.

But to answer your questions, I never said I saw them (in the video) attempt an arrest, that's the reason THEY gave for chasing him, however if they weren't attempting an arrest or planning one what other reason could there be for Travis to have been standing in the road with a shotgun to confront Arbery?

And Gregory McMichael was no longer a police officer at the time of this shooting.

 

[Jitss617]

I guess she will say the McMichaels are guilty because they didn't have a time watch on how fast the suspect was running.....Greg McMichaels did say that as he was going by his house that the suspect was "hauling ass" meaning running fast.

You cannot count on McMichael to be objective. Of course, he would exaggerate.

lol hahahah

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

How often do we see thugs attacking "vigilantes"?

How often do we see people mischaracterized as "thugs"?

 

[Jitss617]

It's not possible for the McMichaels to have known his intentions and no, only the police can lawfully stop someone utilizing force. Or a bounty hunter.

Of course it is, your son warned him days before to stay off the property, then you see him again running away with something in his hand? How many more times is Arbery going to taunt neighbors with his brazen actions? All actions have consequences.. The boys called him while on the phone with the cops and Arbery attacked a man with a shot gun. Why is that ok? Do you want this neighborhood to continue to be terrorized?

Let all things be done decent and in order.

All things here are way out of order.

That's why we have law and supposed order in this country.

All we are getting is hearsay when talk about he said she said, so at this point the law kicks in to get to the bottom of this mess. Speculation is all over the place, but that doesn't wash in a case that is as volital as this one is .

Well just take the video,, it’s shows all we need an attack on a man with a gun

Well let's see if the investigation states that as fact, otherwise to state what led up to the death of Arbery be it this or that.

To me you can charge them with being stupid but Travis had a right to protect him self.

Not sure how it will go. Without all the evidence to review, it's pure speculation outside of the court proceedings.

we see the video

Not enough. Just one part of it.

It’s enough for me. NOT GUILTY

Ok, for you.

If your the jury, based on what you saw, that’s it.. is he guilty of murder?

Who is guilty of murder ?

When you take a life while engaged in self defense it is not called murder but justifiable homicide.

And you can't claim self-defense when you initiated the confrontation.

How much sense does it make when you have to arm yourself because you don't know whether the person you're intending on confronting is armed or not? And they were so convinced [erroneously] that Arbery was armed that they rolled him over after he lay dead on the ground to see if he had a gun in his hand which he did not [bummer].

Sounds to me they were hoping he was armed to give them an excuse to shoot him and that Greg McMichael was jonsing for his glory days as a cop when he had the authority to chase down bad guys and ruin their day by arresting them. Well most of the time. At least on those days when his powers to arrest hadn't been revoked.

Your excuse for Arbery doesn’t make sense,, the video shows him attacking Travis,, with a shot gun in his hand, was he supposed to freeze and hand him the gun? Why didn’t Arbery demand he put the gun down before he accelerated towards him? There is no grey area, this was self
Defense

Let me ask you something. If it were you in this situation, would it have even crossed your mind what you would do if the person you're wanting to arrest if he fails to cooperate with you? Other people have rights to and when you're not the police and you're attempting to force them to comply with your demands, all kinds of bad things can happen as we see in this case.

If nothing else, the McMichaels will likily be found liable for Arbery's wrongful death and it's much easier to prevail in a civil suit than a criminal one but if the family prevails in criminal court, the civil case should be a slam dunk.

Where do you see a arrest attempt? The police officer
Was in the truck.. there was no attempt, Travis was probably going to yell something at him as he ran by.

Do you mind citing the source of that document you posted last, it would be nice to know who the author is.

In any case the document you posted last cited two laws - the one on Georgia State's citizen's arrest and the one on open carry. I can only presume that the reason for citing these specific laws is because the McMichaels in their "witness" statements told the police that the reason they were pursuing Arbery was so that they could perform a citizen's arrest. And the person who wrote the report used the text of the laws, even though he didn't interpret them properly to justify their decision to not arrest or charge the individuals who are now the defendants in the case.

But to answer your questions, I never said I saw them (in the video) attempt an arrest, that's the reason THEY gave for chasing him, however if they weren't attempting an arrest or planning one what other reason could there be for Travis to have been standing in the road with a shotgun to confront Arbery?

And Gregory McMichael was no longer a police officer at the time of this shooting.

We all are police officers if we witness a crime. And no I forgot it was 2 weeks ago

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Everyone is entitled to a presumption of innocence, even suspects that you have already prejudged ...[snipped]

Except for black people huh?

Who said that?

This is your post right? Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s house
"They called the cops, they followed the guy, There was a struggle for the gun and "the robber" was shot.

Where's the presumption of innocence in your statement? Robbery generally involves the taking property unlawfully from a person or place by force or threat of force. When did force or threat of force happen prior to Abery being chased down by the three defendants?

Because he was caught days before by Travis, because he was caught again by McMichaels, he was see putting his hands down his pants the night before like he had a gun, there is a still picture of a hammer on the ground that could be evidence it was stolen and IF THAT IS INDEED A HAMMER! And McMichaels seen him run from property with it, then that is Firsthand knowledge of a breaking of a dwelling with the intention to steal which is a felony in Georgia and you could be stopped with force

Forced to stop after a crime has been committed while on the property if one owns it yes (i.e. get on the ground, hands behind your head, now lay there don't move until the cops get here). Once in the street running, I believe it's out of the owners jurisdiction, and becomes law enforcements matter, otherwise upon the owner reporting the man running away from the scene of the crime to law enforcement.... Yes surveillance from a safe distance is ok, but no closing in on the assailant with guns drawn while out in the street.

View attachment 340149They had every right to stop him if he stole something.. WITH FORCE

"...IF the offense is a felony AND the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion"
What was the FELONY committed?

Open carry and accosting someone while openly armed are NOT the same things. Using a firearm as a means of coercion is not lawful anywhere that I know of.

And you do realize that this is just someone's opinion based on what they were told by the three individuals who are now the defendants in the case? The author of this document makes reference to "witness statements", this is what I was asking you for previously. So far I've only seen the incident report written by the police officer which is a narrative of what Gregory McMichael told him, but I've seen nothing from Travis who is the actual shooter, I wonder why they haven't published that one unless they think it might harm their case.



I don't recall at any point any one of them stating that they were in fear for their lives, have you?

You’re not living in reality the black man ran from a dwelling that did not belong to him after he was warned to stay off of the property by Travis... why should neighbors continue to see a house continually be trespassed on,, when he was caught he ran in what I believe will be a tool he stole from the property.. but you are right the police report doesn’t say much.. and I don’t think that bodes well for Arbery

Because there is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things and grabbing a shotgun, jumping in your truck along with your buddies, chasing down a "suspect", confronting him while armed with a shotgun is the WRONG way to go about resolving the issue.

They could have followed him and kept him in site until the police caught up with them. Why was this not a viable option?

And why are you referring to Arbery as "the black man" when you know his name?

I disagree,, the neighbors were all on high alert, to the point police told English to call McMichaels if it keeps happening. The guns are tool for protection, you can’t infringe on that.. sorry Arbery felt uncomfortable maybe he should have listed to Travis the last time he broke in

You disagree with what?

 

[Jitss617]

How often do we see thugs attacking "vigilantes"?

How often do we see people mischaracterized as "thugs"?

Lol This guy has a clear history of being a thug we have videos of him being arrested, stealing tv’s, tell cops to F off.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

It's not possible for the McMichaels to have known his intentions and no, only the police can lawfully stop someone utilizing force. Or a bounty hunter.

Of course it is, your son warned him days before to stay off the property, then you see him again running away with something in his hand? How many more times is Arbery going to taunt neighbors with his brazen actions? All actions have consequences.. The boys called him while on the phone with the cops and Arbery attacked a man with a shot gun. Why is that ok? Do you want this neighborhood to continue to be terrorized?

Let all things be done decent and in order.

All things here are way out of order.

That's why we have law and supposed order in this country.

All we are getting is hearsay when talk about he said she said, so at this point the law kicks in to get to the bottom of this mess. Speculation is all over the place, but that doesn't wash in a case that is as volital as this one is .

Well just take the video,, it’s shows all we need an attack on a man with a gun

Well let's see if the investigation states that as fact, otherwise to state what led up to the death of Arbery be it this or that.

To me you can charge them with being stupid but Travis had a right to protect him self.

Not sure how it will go. Without all the evidence to review, it's pure speculation outside of the court proceedings.

we see the video

Not enough. Just one part of it.

It’s enough for me. NOT GUILTY

Ok, for you.

If your the jury, based on what you saw, that’s it.. is he guilty of murder?

Who is guilty of murder ?

When you take a life while engaged in self defense it is not called murder but justifiable homicide.

And you can't claim self-defense when you initiated the confrontation.

How much sense does it make when you have to arm yourself because you don't know whether the person you're intending on confronting is armed or not? And they were so convinced [erroneously] that Arbery was armed that they rolled him over after he lay dead on the ground to see if he had a gun in his hand which he did not [bummer].

Sounds to me they were hoping he was armed to give them an excuse to shoot him and that Greg McMichael was jonsing for his glory days as a cop when he had the authority to chase down bad guys and ruin their day by arresting them. Well most of the time. At least on those days when his powers to arrest hadn't been revoked.

Your excuse for Arbery doesn’t make sense,, the video shows him attacking Travis,, with a shot gun in his hand, was he supposed to freeze and hand him the gun? Why didn’t Arbery demand he put the gun down before he accelerated towards him? There is no grey area, this was self
Defense

Let me ask you something. If it were you in this situation, would it have even crossed your mind what you would do if the person you're wanting to arrest if he fails to cooperate with you? Other people have rights to and when you're not the police and you're attempting to force them to comply with your demands, all kinds of bad things can happen as we see in this case.

If nothing else, the McMichaels will likily be found liable for Arbery's wrongful death and it's much easier to prevail in a civil suit than a criminal one but if the family prevails in criminal court, the civil case should be a slam dunk.

Where do you see a arrest attempt? The police officer
Was in the truck.. there was no attempt, Travis was probably going to yell something at him as he ran by.

Do you mind citing the source of that document you posted last, it would be nice to know who the author is.

In any case the document you posted last cited two laws - the one on Georgia State's citizen's arrest and the one on open carry. I can only presume that the reason for citing these specific laws is because the McMichaels in their "witness" statements told the police that the reason they were pursuing Arbery was so that they could perform a citizen's arrest. And the person who wrote the report used the text of the laws, even though he didn't interpret them properly to justify their decision to not arrest or charge the individuals who are now the defendants in the case.

But to answer your questions, I never said I saw them (in the video) attempt an arrest, that's the reason THEY gave for chasing him, however if they weren't attempting an arrest or planning one what other reason could there be for Travis to have been standing in the road with a shotgun to confront Arbery?

And Gregory McMichael was no longer a police officer at the time of this shooting.

We all are police officers if we witness a crime. And no I forgot it was 2 weeks ago

And herein lies the problem.

 

[Jitss617]

Everyone is entitled to a presumption of innocence, even suspects that you have already prejudged ...[snipped]

Except for black people huh?

Who said that?

This is your post right? Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s house
"They called the cops, they followed the guy, There was a struggle for the gun and "the robber" was shot.

Where's the presumption of innocence in your statement? Robbery generally involves the taking property unlawfully from a person or place by force or threat of force. When did force or threat of force happen prior to Abery being chased down by the three defendants?

Because he was caught days before by Travis, because he was caught again by McMichaels, he was see putting his hands down his pants the night before like he had a gun, there is a still picture of a hammer on the ground that could be evidence it was stolen and IF THAT IS INDEED A HAMMER! And McMichaels seen him run from property with it, then that is Firsthand knowledge of a breaking of a dwelling with the intention to steal which is a felony in Georgia and you could be stopped with force

Forced to stop after a crime has been committed while on the property if one owns it yes (i.e. get on the ground, hands behind your head, now lay there don't move until the cops get here). Once in the street running, I believe it's out of the owners jurisdiction, and becomes law enforcements matter, otherwise upon the owner reporting the man running away from the scene of the crime to law enforcement.... Yes surveillance from a safe distance is ok, but no closing in on the assailant with guns drawn while out in the street.

View attachment 340149They had every right to stop him if he stole something.. WITH FORCE

"...IF the offense is a felony AND the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion"
What was the FELONY committed?

Open carry and accosting someone while openly armed are NOT the same things. Using a firearm as a means of coercion is not lawful anywhere that I know of.

And you do realize that this is just someone's opinion based on what they were told by the three individuals who are now the defendants in the case? The author of this document makes reference to "witness statements", this is what I was asking you for previously. So far I've only seen the incident report written by the police officer which is a narrative of what Gregory McMichael told him, but I've seen nothing from Travis who is the actual shooter, I wonder why they haven't published that one unless they think it might harm their case.



I don't recall at any point any one of them stating that they were in fear for their lives, have you?

You’re not living in reality the black man ran from a dwelling that did not belong to him after he was warned to stay off of the property by Travis... why should neighbors continue to see a house continually be trespassed on,, when he was caught he ran in what I believe will be a tool he stole from the property.. but you are right the police report doesn’t say much.. and I don’t think that bodes well for Arbery

Because there is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things and grabbing a shotgun, jumping in your truck along with your buddies, chasing down a "suspect", confronting him while armed with a shotgun is the WRONG way to go about resolving the issue.

They could have followed him and kept him in site until the police caught up with them. Why was this not a viable option?

And why are you referring to Arbery as "the black man" when you know his name?

I disagree,, the neighbors were all on high alert, to the point police told English to call McMichaels if it keeps happening. The guns are tool for protection, you can’t infringe on that.. sorry Arbery felt uncomfortable maybe he should have listed to Travis the last time he broke in

You disagree with what?

With what you wrote

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Lol This guy has a clear history of being a thug we have videos of him being arrested, stealing tv’s, tell cops to F off.

That's not for you to decide.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Everyone is entitled to a presumption of innocence, even suspects that you have already prejudged ...[snipped]

Except for black people huh?

Who said that?

This is your post right? Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s house
"They called the cops, they followed the guy, There was a struggle for the gun and "the robber" was shot.

Where's the presumption of innocence in your statement? Robbery generally involves the taking property unlawfully from a person or place by force or threat of force. When did force or threat of force happen prior to Abery being chased down by the three defendants?

Because he was caught days before by Travis, because he was caught again by McMichaels, he was see putting his hands down his pants the night before like he had a gun, there is a still picture of a hammer on the ground that could be evidence it was stolen and IF THAT IS INDEED A HAMMER! And McMichaels seen him run from property with it, then that is Firsthand knowledge of a breaking of a dwelling with the intention to steal which is a felony in Georgia and you could be stopped with force

Forced to stop after a crime has been committed while on the property if one owns it yes (i.e. get on the ground, hands behind your head, now lay there don't move until the cops get here). Once in the street running, I believe it's out of the owners jurisdiction, and becomes law enforcements matter, otherwise upon the owner reporting the man running away from the scene of the crime to law enforcement.... Yes surveillance from a safe distance is ok, but no closing in on the assailant with guns drawn while out in the street.

View attachment 340149They had every right to stop him if he stole something.. WITH FORCE

"...IF the offense is a felony AND the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion"
What was the FELONY committed?

Open carry and accosting someone while openly armed are NOT the same things. Using a firearm as a means of coercion is not lawful anywhere that I know of.

And you do realize that this is just someone's opinion based on what they were told by the three individuals who are now the defendants in the case? The author of this document makes reference to "witness statements", this is what I was asking you for previously. So far I've only seen the incident report written by the police officer which is a narrative of what Gregory McMichael told him, but I've seen nothing from Travis who is the actual shooter, I wonder why they haven't published that one unless they think it might harm their case.



I don't recall at any point any one of them stating that they were in fear for their lives, have you?

You’re not living in reality the black man ran from a dwelling that did not belong to him after he was warned to stay off of the property by Travis... why should neighbors continue to see a house continually be trespassed on,, when he was caught he ran in what I believe will be a tool he stole from the property.. but you are right the police report doesn’t say much.. and I don’t think that bodes well for Arbery

Because there is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things and grabbing a shotgun, jumping in your truck along with your buddies, chasing down a "suspect", confronting him while armed with a shotgun is the WRONG way to go about resolving the issue.

They could have followed him and kept him in site until the police caught up with them. Why was this not a viable option?

And why are you referring to Arbery as "the black man" when you know his name?

I disagree,, the neighbors were all on high alert, to the point police told English to call McMichaels if it keeps happening. The guns are tool for protection, you can’t infringe on that.. sorry Arbery felt uncomfortable maybe he should have listed to Travis the last time he broke in

You disagree with what?

With what you wrote

You disagree that there is a right way and a wrong way to do things?

And you never responded when I asked previously what felony had been committed, please let me know if you find one.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

And no one even attempted to detain him.

That’s not what the District Attorney wrote when he said there was no probable cause to arrest the men who were making a citizen’s arrest when one of the gunmen was attacked by the suspect.

So were the police and everybody lying to investigators and somehow you know that?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

And for God's sake learn the law.

I did and posted this earlier.


in OCGA 16-5-20?

A person commits the offense of simple assault when he or she either: or

1. Commits an act which places another in reasonable apprehension of immediately receiving a violent injury.

What circumstances transform simple assault into aggravated assault?

The presence of any one of the following conditions will make assault aggravated:

2. Use of deadly weapon or any object, device, or instrument which is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury.
Actual injury is not required. Mere possibility that serious injury would result from the use of deadly weapon, object, device, or instrument is enough. The “deadly” nature or character of a weapon is determined by the jury. Any “object, device, or instrument” that has the potential of being used offensively against a person can be considered an instrument of aggression.”


I don’t believe an argument can be made that two white men displaying deadly weapons and a third white man using his car to block and detain an unarmed black man jogging down a street did not place the jogger in reasonable apprehension of immediately receiving a violent injury.

Standing in the road with a shotgun as shown below fits the definition of aggravated assault in Georgia Law.

and the gunmen cannot claim self defense when they are in the act of committing a felony,

 

[Jitss617]

Lol This guy has a clear history of being a thug we have videos of him being arrested, stealing tv’s, tell cops to F off.

That's not for you to decide.

Are you going to stop me lol

 

[Jitss617]

Everyone is entitled to a presumption of innocence, even suspects that you have already prejudged ...[snipped]

Except for black people huh?

Who said that?

This is your post right? Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s house
"They called the cops, they followed the guy, There was a struggle for the gun and "the robber" was shot.

Where's the presumption of innocence in your statement? Robbery generally involves the taking property unlawfully from a person or place by force or threat of force. When did force or threat of force happen prior to Abery being chased down by the three defendants?

Because he was caught days before by Travis, because he was caught again by McMichaels, he was see putting his hands down his pants the night before like he had a gun, there is a still picture of a hammer on the ground that could be evidence it was stolen and IF THAT IS INDEED A HAMMER! And McMichaels seen him run from property with it, then that is Firsthand knowledge of a breaking of a dwelling with the intention to steal which is a felony in Georgia and you could be stopped with force

Forced to stop after a crime has been committed while on the property if one owns it yes (i.e. get on the ground, hands behind your head, now lay there don't move until the cops get here). Once in the street running, I believe it's out of the owners jurisdiction, and becomes law enforcements matter, otherwise upon the owner reporting the man running away from the scene of the crime to law enforcement.... Yes surveillance from a safe distance is ok, but no closing in on the assailant with guns drawn while out in the street.

View attachment 340149They had every right to stop him if he stole something.. WITH FORCE

"...IF the offense is a felony AND the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion"
What was the FELONY committed?

Open carry and accosting someone while openly armed are NOT the same things. Using a firearm as a means of coercion is not lawful anywhere that I know of.

And you do realize that this is just someone's opinion based on what they were told by the three individuals who are now the defendants in the case? The author of this document makes reference to "witness statements", this is what I was asking you for previously. So far I've only seen the incident report written by the police officer which is a narrative of what Gregory McMichael told him, but I've seen nothing from Travis who is the actual shooter, I wonder why they haven't published that one unless they think it might harm their case.



I don't recall at any point any one of them stating that they were in fear for their lives, have you?

You’re not living in reality the black man ran from a dwelling that did not belong to him after he was warned to stay off of the property by Travis... why should neighbors continue to see a house continually be trespassed on,, when he was caught he ran in what I believe will be a tool he stole from the property.. but you are right the police report doesn’t say much.. and I don’t think that bodes well for Arbery

Because there is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things and grabbing a shotgun, jumping in your truck along with your buddies, chasing down a "suspect", confronting him while armed with a shotgun is the WRONG way to go about resolving the issue.

They could have followed him and kept him in site until the police caught up with them. Why was this not a viable option?

And why are you referring to Arbery as "the black man" when you know his name?

I disagree,, the neighbors were all on high alert, to the point police told English to call McMichaels if it keeps happening. The guns are tool for protection, you can’t infringe on that.. sorry Arbery felt uncomfortable maybe he should have listed to Travis the last time he broke in

You disagree with what?

With what you wrote

You disagree that there is a right way and a wrong way to do things?

And you never responded when I asked previously what felony had been committed, please let me know if you find one.

I think they handled it the American way, we aren’t changing it because your feelings are hurt. And A dwelling occupied unoccupied or vacant if your intentions are to steal you are committing a felony under Georgia law and if you are caught you can B stop by citizens for citizens arrest... Read the fucking law I fucking gave it to you do you have any more fucking stupid questions

 

[Meathead]

How often do we see thugs attacking "vigilantes"?

How often do we see people mischaracterized as "thugs"?

You mean Big Mike and Trayvon?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

No one pointed guns at your thief until he attacked so stop lying about what happened.

You are the liar actually unless you can post a video that shows both of the gunmen and the position of their weapons at all times during the chase up to the point that the first shot was fired.

it’s not conclusive but I can see the shadows under the truck what looks to be a gun barrel pointed at a person with an extended left arm.

I’m not claiming this is proof TravisM fired at Arbery before the jogger could reach the barrel in the split second when it went off.

I’m saying it is a lie when you claim you know that TravisM never pointed the shotgun at the jogger before the first shot.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

People of color never want to be held accountable for what they do nor do they want their cousins held accountable.

They think the white man owe them.

Let me ask all the colored folk on here, would you rather live in Africa or America?

Yet to hear them talk they just got it oh so bad here in America. When in fact we know they have it better here than their cousins have it anywhere in the world. In no nation on earth are people of that persuasion given more than here in America. Hard working, good and decent white people work very hard to support black people but they bite the hands that feed them. Ever heard a black thank a farmer? Blacks think groceries magically appear at the local walmart...have no idea how hard whites work to produce all the stuff they get for free.

Despite all the free stuff White People give them they still want more. Nope, they are never satisfied always want more and more.

Our big mistake was allowing them to become citizens. They been working against America ever since.

If the blacks are so innocent, never committ a crime, then why are jour ails overrun with them?

When the pilgrims first arrived on these shores they had a problem with rich elite type people from the upper class in England not wanting to work, and in fact expected to just sit back relax and let others support them. Thus the colonists made a rule. He who does not work, does not eat.

 

[Jitss617]

No one pointed guns at your thief until he attacked so stop lying about what happened.

You are the liar actually unless you can post a video that shows both of the gunmen and the position of their weapons at all times during the chase up to the point that the first shot was fired.

it’s not conclusive but I can see the shadows under the truck what looks to be a gun barrel pointed at a person with an extended left arm.

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I’m not claiming this is proof TravisM fired at Arbery before the jogger could reach the barrel in the split second when it went off.

I’m saying it is a lie when you claim you know that TravisM never pointed the shotgun at the jogger before the first shot.

You see a shadow and hear things ok

 

[NotfooledbyW]

People of color never want to be held accountable for what they do nor do they want their cousins held accountable.

They think the white man owe them.

Let me ask all the colored folk on here, would you rather live in Africa or America?

Yet to hear them talk they just got it oh so bad here in America. When in fact we know they have it better here than their cousins have it anywhere in the world. In no nation on earth are people of that persuasion given more than here in America. Hard working, good and decent white people work very hard to support black people but they bite the hands that feed them. Ever heard a black thank a farmer? Blacks thingroceries magically appear at the local walmart...have no idea how hard white work to produce all the stuff they get for free.

Despite all the free stuff White People give them they still want more. Nope, they are never satisfied always want more and more.

Our big mistake was allowing them to become citizens. They been working against America ever since.

Keep talkiin’ racist.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Lol This guy has a clear history of being a thug we have videos of him being arrested, stealing tv’s, tell cops to F off.

That's not for you to decide.

Are you going to stop me lol

Judge not, lest ye be judged.