Very efficient solar cells

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Haha, sure . What a crock of shit. It's about your Randian purity. Nothing more.

Show me where the constitution gives the fed gov power to subsidize people or companies.
I'll wait, dumbfuck.
So, post a link or shut the **** up

Where does the constitution restrict subsidies?

Its restricts them by not giving them the power, doofus

So when when we went the moon that was unconstitutional?

NASA is unconstitutional. 85 percent of the fed gov is unconstitutional.
Shall I post the enumerated powers so you can stop saying stupid things?

I would say the person saying stupid things is the one who believes almost everything our government does is unconstitutional.

You do realize that if it really was unconstitutional it could be opposed in the courts, right?

 

[TNHarley]

Show me where the constitution gives the fed gov power to subsidize people or companies.
I'll wait, dumbfuck.
So, post a link or shut the **** up

Where does the constitution restrict subsidies?

Its restricts them by not giving them the power, doofus

So when when we went the moon that was unconstitutional?

NASA is unconstitutional. 85 percent of the fed gov is unconstitutional.
Shall I post the enumerated powers so you can stop saying stupid things?

I would say the person saying stupid things is the one who believes almost everything our government does is unconstitutional.

You do realize that if it really was unconstitutional it could be opposed in the courts, right?

Show me where it gives the fed gov to do that stuff.
I'll gladly wait.

 

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It’s viable now. It’s not economically feasible now but that can change with improvements in technology and economies of scale.

It's not viable for significant use now, because it's not economically feasible.

I hope that changes.

But you know if it ever becomes viable, the leftist will want it banned along with fossil fuels, right?

The Green New Deal isn't about the environment, it's about political power, greed, and control.

It’s not economically feasible relative to other energy sources.

No, I don’t know that “leftists” will want to ban it. Or that it is about political power, greed and control. But I’m not a conspiracy theorist.

 

[ding]

Where does the constitution restrict subsidies?

Its restricts them by not giving them the power, doofus

So when when we went the moon that was unconstitutional?

NASA is unconstitutional. 85 percent of the fed gov is unconstitutional.
Shall I post the enumerated powers so you can stop saying stupid things?

I would say the person saying stupid things is the one who believes almost everything our government does is unconstitutional.

You do realize that if it really was unconstitutional it could be opposed in the courts, right?

Show me where it gives the fed gov to do that stuff.
I'll gladly wait.

Then take them to court, TN.

Again, my position is that the Constitution doesn’t restrict it.

 

[ding]

Haha, sure . What a crock of shit. It's about your Randian purity. Nothing more.

Show me where the constitution gives the fed gov power to subsidize people or companies.
I'll wait, dumbfuck.
So, post a link or shut the **** up

Where does the constitution restrict subsidies?

Its restricts them by not giving them the power, doofus

You do realize that subsidies exist in reality, right?

So according to your logic every subsidy ever granted was unconstitutional, right?

Yes. Pass an amendment.

None is needed. They do it all the time.

 

[there4eyeM]

Decentralization of power, political and energetic, is highly desirable for the improvement of quality of life for the majority.

 

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Decentralization of power, political and energetic, is highly desirable for the improvement of quality of life for the majority.

Don’t we have that in theory?

 

[TNHarley]

Its restricts them by not giving them the power, doofus

So when when we went the moon that was unconstitutional?

NASA is unconstitutional. 85 percent of the fed gov is unconstitutional.
Shall I post the enumerated powers so you can stop saying stupid things?

I would say the person saying stupid things is the one who believes almost everything our government does is unconstitutional.

You do realize that if it really was unconstitutional it could be opposed in the courts, right?

Show me where it gives the fed gov to do that stuff.
I'll gladly wait.

Then take them to court, TN.

Again, my position is that the Constitution doesn’t restrict it.

No.
And you obviously dont know what the constitution actually DOES.
If it's not an enumerated power, it's a state thing. That's literally what it says.

 

[ding]

So when when we went the moon that was unconstitutional?

NASA is unconstitutional. 85 percent of the fed gov is unconstitutional.
Shall I post the enumerated powers so you can stop saying stupid things?

I would say the person saying stupid things is the one who believes almost everything our government does is unconstitutional.

You do realize that if it really was unconstitutional it could be opposed in the courts, right?

Show me where it gives the fed gov to do that stuff.
I'll gladly wait.

Then take them to court, TN.

Again, my position is that the Constitution doesn’t restrict it.

No.
And you obviously dont know what the constitution actually DOES.
If it's not an enumerated power, it's a state thing. That's literally what it says.

You don’t know what I know.

According to you 85% of everything the government does is illegal. So either you are correct and the states are in in the conspiracy or you are wrong.

 

[there4eyeM]

Decentralization of power, political and energetic, is highly desirable for the improvement of quality of life for the majority.

Don’t we have that in theory?

Power is highly centralized now and is increasing.

 

[ding]

Decentralization of power, political and energetic, is highly desirable for the improvement of quality of life for the majority.

Don’t we have that in theory?

Power is highly centralized now and is increasing.

Well, we have three branches of the federal government and we have state governments as well which have three branches as well. And we have we the people who get to elect our representatives on a regular basis.

So what do you propose to do to eliminate your perception that power is highly centralized?

 

[TNHarley]

NASA is unconstitutional. 85 percent of the fed gov is unconstitutional.
Shall I post the enumerated powers so you can stop saying stupid things?

I would say the person saying stupid things is the one who believes almost everything our government does is unconstitutional.

You do realize that if it really was unconstitutional it could be opposed in the courts, right?

Show me where it gives the fed gov to do that stuff.
I'll gladly wait.

Then take them to court, TN.

Again, my position is that the Constitution doesn’t restrict it.

No.
And you obviously dont know what the constitution actually DOES.
If it's not an enumerated power, it's a state thing. That's literally what it says.

You don’t know what I know.

According to you 85% of everything the government does is illegal. So either you are correct and the states are in in the conspiracy or you are wrong.

Omg. Yes I am wrong. Its list of enumerated powers and where it states everything else is left up to the states was a PRANK

 

[ding]

I would say the person saying stupid things is the one who believes almost everything our government does is unconstitutional.

You do realize that if it really was unconstitutional it could be opposed in the courts, right?

Show me where it gives the fed gov to do that stuff.
I'll gladly wait.

Then take them to court, TN.

Again, my position is that the Constitution doesn’t restrict it.

No.
And you obviously dont know what the constitution actually DOES.
If it's not an enumerated power, it's a state thing. That's literally what it says.

You don’t know what I know.

According to you 85% of everything the government does is illegal. So either you are correct and the states are in in the conspiracy or you are wrong.

Omg. Yes I am wrong. Its list of enumerated powers and where it states everything else is left up to the states was a PRANK

So that’s a yes that you believe there’s a grand conspiracy?

 

[TNHarley]

Show me where it gives the fed gov to do that stuff.
I'll gladly wait.

Then take them to court, TN.

Again, my position is that the Constitution doesn’t restrict it.

No.
And you obviously dont know what the constitution actually DOES.
If it's not an enumerated power, it's a state thing. That's literally what it says.

You don’t know what I know.

According to you 85% of everything the government does is illegal. So either you are correct and the states are in in the conspiracy or you are wrong.

Omg. Yes I am wrong. Its list of enumerated powers and where it states everything else is left up to the states was a PRANK

So that’s a yes that you believe there’s a grand conspiracy?

No

 

[ding]

Then take them to court, TN.

Again, my position is that the Constitution doesn’t restrict it.

No.
And you obviously dont know what the constitution actually DOES.
If it's not an enumerated power, it's a state thing. That's literally what it says.

You don’t know what I know.

According to you 85% of everything the government does is illegal. So either you are correct and the states are in in the conspiracy or you are wrong.

Omg. Yes I am wrong. Its list of enumerated powers and where it states everything else is left up to the states was a PRANK

So that’s a yes that you believe there’s a grand conspiracy?

No

Then you must be wrong. Because if you were right it wouldn’t be that way.

 

[there4eyeM]

Decentralization of power, political and energetic, is highly desirable for the improvement of quality of life for the majority.

Don’t we have that in theory?

Power is highly centralized now and is increasing.

Well, we have three branches of the federal government and we have state governments as well which have three branches as well. And we have we the people who get to elect our representatives on a regular basis.

So what do you propose to do to eliminate your perception that power is highly centralized?

Eliminating my perceptions would be easy; a tiny .22 precisely placed would do it.
Reducing the real centralization of power in the world is more complex.
Petroleum dependence is probably the most dire example. Electrical grids are similar, if less menacing.
Political centers are another domain and elicit multiple approaches.
These, most people would argue, exist not only in my perceptions.

 

[TNHarley]

No.
And you obviously dont know what the constitution actually DOES.
If it's not an enumerated power, it's a state thing. That's literally what it says.

You don’t know what I know.

According to you 85% of everything the government does is illegal. So either you are correct and the states are in in the conspiracy or you are wrong.

Omg. Yes I am wrong. Its list of enumerated powers and where it states everything else is left up to the states was a PRANK

So that’s a yes that you believe there’s a grand conspiracy?

No

Then you must be wrong. Because if you were right it wouldn’t be that way.

A large majority of humans dont believe in liberty and individuality. They are also subservient.
Our 2nd amendment got eliminated by our second president. Nothing happened.
Using your logic, that was perfectly fine.

 

[MAGAman]

Omg. Yes I am wrong. Its list of enumerated powers and where it states everything else is left up to the states was a PRANK

Without getting into the weeds, Artivle 1 Sec 8 gives the feds broad power to tax and spend. I don't see where subsidies are excluded.

Don't get me wrong. 95% of government spending is between corrupt and inefficient. But that doesn't make it unconstitutional.

 

[TNHarley]

Omg. Yes I am wrong. Its list of enumerated powers and where it states everything else is left up to the states was a PRANK

Without getting into the weeds, Artivle 1 Sec 8 gives the feds broad power to tax and spend. I don't see where subsidies are excluded.

Don't get me wrong. 95% of government spending is between corrupt and inefficient. But that doesn't make it unconstitutional.

Yes to tax and spend on constitutional programs.
If we used the hamiltonian "implied powers" power grab like you just stated, they could do whatever in the hell they want and the constitution is completely meaningless.

 

[ding]

Decentralization of power, political and energetic, is highly desirable for the improvement of quality of life for the majority.

Don’t we have that in theory?

Power is highly centralized now and is increasing.

Well, we have three branches of the federal government and we have state governments as well which have three branches as well. And we have we the people who get to elect our representatives on a regular basis.

So what do you propose to do to eliminate your perception that power is highly centralized?

Eliminating my perceptions would be easy; a tiny .22 precisely placed would do it.
Reducing the real centralization of power in the world is more complex.
Petroleum dependence is probably the most dire example. Electrical grids are similar, if less menacing.
Political centers are another domain and elicit multiple approaches.
These, most people would argue, exist not only in my perceptions.

I agree that “power” exists. I don’t believe it is centralized and coordinated. It’s more of a conflict and confusion process.

Think of it this way, we are in an equilibrium phase where slight differences are working and competing against each other. Progress isn’t a straight line. Everything eventually works itself out for the good because error cannot stand. Eventually error will fail. Order from chaos.