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I am a bit worried about the US oil consumption.
If the consume dosent decrease the economy wil decrease.

US consumes 22.7% of all oil in the world. US only have 2% of the worlds oil reserves and US will be more dependent on import in the future. US only have 4.5% of the worlds total population, but still they consume allmost 1/4 of the worlds oil. US is heavily dependent on oil compared to other countries.

The oil price will increase in the future years and the US oil production is falling and every year they get more and more dependent on oil import.
The whole US transportation system is build up on the idea that every person has its own car, and except from some european like cities like Chicago, NYC, SF their are almost no public transportation excisting. LA most be the worst example of a sustainable city in the world. Their must be a large potential to reduce the oil consumption in a city like this to meet the future.

The cost for transpotation will increase rapidly in the future and this will affect US a lot harder than any country in the world. As far as i know US dont have any electric railway system at all. In europe and Asia almost every railway system is electrified and they have high speed trains and modern railways that can transport large amounts of goods and people. In the future transport of goods and persons with plane and trucks will not be competitive with large scale electric train systems.. The cost for co2 pollution will also increase and this will affect the US economy largely.

Here are som suggestions for a sustaniable future:
**Increase taxes on gasoline a lot. (6$ pr gallon is a fine price as a start and comparable to europe.).( Price today 3.5$ is very low and should be increased)

**Green taxes on cars with low fuel economy (SUVs for instance). In europe US suvs are so heavily taxed that it costs from 200.000$ and up.
**Use the taxes from gasoline and cars to build high speed train networks between all major cities across the country.
++more, their is a large potential for reduction in the transport sector. Building wind and solar etc. is fine but the largest potential is in the transport sector by reducing the consumption.

Is this a good idea as a start?
 

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I am a bit worried about the US oil consumption.
If the consume dosent decrease the economy wil decrease.

US consumes 22.7% of all oil in the world. US only have 2% of the worlds oil reserves and US will be more dependent on import in the future. US only have 4.5% of the worlds total population, but still they consume allmost 1/4 of the worlds oil. US is heavily dependent on oil compared to other countries.

The oil price will increase in the future years and the US oil production is falling and every year they get more and more dependent on oil import.
The whole US transportation system is build up on the idea that every person has its own car, and except from some european like cities like Chicago, NYC, SF their are almost no public transportation excisting. LA most be the worst example of a sustainable city in the world. Their must be a large potential to reduce the oil consumption in a city like this to meet the future.

The cost for transpotation will increase rapidly in the future and this will affect US a lot harder than any country in the world. As far as i know US dont have any electric railway system at all. In europe and Asia almost every railway system is electrified and they have high speed trains and modern railways that can transport large amounts of goods and people. In the future transport of goods and persons with plane and trucks will not be competitive with large scale electric train systems.. The cost for co2 pollution will also increase and this will affect the US economy largely.

Here are som suggestions for a sustaniable future:
**Increase taxes on gasoline a lot. (6$ pr gallon is a fine price as a start and comparable to europe.).( Price today 3.5$ is very low and should be increased)

**Green taxes on cars with low fuel economy (SUVs for instance). In europe US suvs are so heavily taxed that it costs from 200.000$ and up.
**Use the taxes from gasoline and cars to build high speed train networks between all major cities across the country.
++more, their is a large potential for reduction in the transport sector. Building wind and solar etc. is fine but the largest potential is in the transport sector by reducing the consumption.

Is this a good idea as a start?
No.

America is not Europe.
 

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I am a bit worried about the US oil consumption.
If the consume dosent decrease the economy wil decrease.

US consumes 22.7% of all oil in the world. US only have 2% of the worlds oil reserves and US will be more dependent on import in the future. US only have 4.5% of the worlds total population, but still they consume allmost 1/4 of the worlds oil. US is heavily dependent on oil compared to other countries.

The oil price will increase in the future years and the US oil production is falling and every year they get more and more dependent on oil import.
The whole US transportation system is build up on the idea that every person has its own car, and except from some european like cities like Chicago, NYC, SF their are almost no public transportation excisting. LA most be the worst example of a sustainable city in the world. Their must be a large potential to reduce the oil consumption in a city like this to meet the future.

The cost for transpotation will increase rapidly in the future and this will affect US a lot harder than any country in the world. As far as i know US dont have any electric railway system at all. In europe and Asia almost every railway system is electrified and they have high speed trains and modern railways that can transport large amounts of goods and people. In the future transport of goods and persons with plane and trucks will not be competitive with large scale electric train systems.. The cost for co2 pollution will also increase and this will affect the US economy largely.

Here are som suggestions for a sustaniable future:
**Increase taxes on gasoline a lot. (6$ pr gallon is a fine price as a start and comparable to europe.).( Price today 3.5$ is very low and should be increased)

**Green taxes on cars with low fuel economy (SUVs for instance). In europe US suvs are so heavily taxed that it costs from 200.000$ and up.
**Use the taxes from gasoline and cars to build high speed train networks between all major cities across the country.
++more, their is a large potential for reduction in the transport sector. Building wind and solar etc. is fine but the largest potential is in the transport sector by reducing the consumption.

Is this a good idea as a start?
No.

America is not Europe.
There are some that would love to have it that way.:cuckoo:
 

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I am a bit worried about the US oil consumption.
If the consume dosent decrease the economy wil decrease.

US consumes 22.7% of all oil in the world. US only have 2% of the worlds oil reserves and US will be more dependent on import in the future. US only have 4.5% of the worlds total population, but still they consume allmost 1/4 of the worlds oil. US is heavily dependent on oil compared to other countries.

The oil price will increase in the future years and the US oil production is falling and every year they get more and more dependent on oil import.
The whole US transportation system is build up on the idea that every person has its own car, and except from some european like cities like Chicago, NYC, SF their are almost no public transportation excisting. LA most be the worst example of a sustainable city in the world. Their must be a large potential to reduce the oil consumption in a city like this to meet the future.

The cost for transpotation will increase rapidly in the future and this will affect US a lot harder than any country in the world. As far as i know US dont have any electric railway system at all. In europe and Asia almost every railway system is electrified and they have high speed trains and modern railways that can transport large amounts of goods and people. In the future transport of goods and persons with plane and trucks will not be competitive with large scale electric train systems.. The cost for co2 pollution will also increase and this will affect the US economy largely.

Here are som suggestions for a sustaniable future:
**Increase taxes on gasoline a lot. (6$ pr gallon is a fine price as a start and comparable to europe.).( Price today 3.5$ is very low and should be increased)

**Green taxes on cars with low fuel economy (SUVs for instance). In europe US suvs are so heavily taxed that it costs from 200.000$ and up.
**Use the taxes from gasoline and cars to build high speed train networks between all major cities across the country.
++more, their is a large potential for reduction in the transport sector. Building wind and solar etc. is fine but the largest potential is in the transport sector by reducing the consumption.

Is this a good idea as a start?
Oh look a new sock.... How quaint....
 

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I am a bit worried about the US oil consumption.
If the consume dosent decrease the economy wil decrease.

US consumes 22.7% of all oil in the world. US only have 2% of the worlds oil reserves and US will be more dependent on import in the future. US only have 4.5% of the worlds total population, but still they consume allmost 1/4 of the worlds oil. US is heavily dependent on oil compared to other countries.

The oil price will increase in the future years and the US oil production is falling and every year they get more and more dependent on oil import.
The whole US transportation system is build up on the idea that every person has its own car, and except from some european like cities like Chicago, NYC, SF their are almost no public transportation excisting. LA most be the worst example of a sustainable city in the world. Their must be a large potential to reduce the oil consumption in a city like this to meet the future.

The cost for transpotation will increase rapidly in the future and this will affect US a lot harder than any country in the world. As far as i know US dont have any electric railway system at all. In europe and Asia almost every railway system is electrified and they have high speed trains and modern railways that can transport large amounts of goods and people. In the future transport of goods and persons with plane and trucks will not be competitive with large scale electric train systems.. The cost for co2 pollution will also increase and this will affect the US economy largely.

Here are som suggestions for a sustaniable future:
**Increase taxes on gasoline a lot. (6$ pr gallon is a fine price as a start and comparable to europe.).( Price today 3.5$ is very low and should be increased)

**Green taxes on cars with low fuel economy (SUVs for instance). In europe US suvs are so heavily taxed that it costs from 200.000$ and up.
**Use the taxes from gasoline and cars to build high speed train networks between all major cities across the country.
++more, their is a large potential for reduction in the transport sector. Building wind and solar etc. is fine but the largest potential is in the transport sector by reducing the consumption.

Is this a good idea as a start?
"The cost for co2 pollution will also increase and this will affect the US economy largely"

If you believe CO2 is pollution, I suggest you stop exhaling.....now.
 

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I am a bit worried about the US oil consumption.
If the consume dosent decrease the economy wil decrease.

US consumes 22.7% of all oil in the world. US only have 2% of the worlds oil reserves and US will be more dependent on import in the future. US only have 4.5% of the worlds total population, but still they consume allmost 1/4 of the worlds oil. US is heavily dependent on oil compared to other countries.

The oil price will increase in the future years and the US oil production is falling and every year they get more and more dependent on oil import.
The whole US transportation system is build up on the idea that every person has its own car, and except from some european like cities like Chicago, NYC, SF their are almost no public transportation excisting. LA most be the worst example of a sustainable city in the world. Their must be a large potential to reduce the oil consumption in a city like this to meet the future.

The cost for transpotation will increase rapidly in the future and this will affect US a lot harder than any country in the world. As far as i know US dont have any electric railway system at all. In europe and Asia almost every railway system is electrified and they have high speed trains and modern railways that can transport large amounts of goods and people. In the future transport of goods and persons with plane and trucks will not be competitive with large scale electric train systems.. The cost for co2 pollution will also increase and this will affect the US economy largely.

Here are som suggestions for a sustaniable future:
**Increase taxes on gasoline a lot. (6$ pr gallon is a fine price as a start and comparable to europe.).( Price today 3.5$ is very low and should be increased)

**Green taxes on cars with low fuel economy (SUVs for instance). In europe US suvs are so heavily taxed that it costs from 200.000$ and up.
**Use the taxes from gasoline and cars to build high speed train networks between all major cities across the country.
++more, their is a large potential for reduction in the transport sector. Building wind and solar etc. is fine but the largest potential is in the transport sector by reducing the consumption.

Is this a good idea as a start?

S0n.........no worries here. You're in a 2006 mindest for the gay. Far left websites promote crap like we're living in 2006 too. Turn that shit off s0n............

Once the Varsity is placed in charge again in 2013, oil production will go through the roof because the public will be demanding it. For sure, we'll be running at light speed from European energy policies and all the green BS will be put on the back burner.
 
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I am a bit worried about the US oil consumption.
If the consume dosent decrease the economy wil decrease.

US consumes 22.7% of all oil in the world. US only have 2% of the worlds oil reserves and US will be more dependent on import in the future. US only have 4.5% of the worlds total population, but still they consume allmost 1/4 of the worlds oil. US is heavily dependent on oil compared to other countries.

The oil price will increase in the future years and the US oil production is falling and every year they get more and more dependent on oil import.
The whole US transportation system is build up on the idea that every person has its own car, and except from some european like cities like Chicago, NYC, SF their are almost no public transportation excisting. LA most be the worst example of a sustainable city in the world. Their must be a large potential to reduce the oil consumption in a city like this to meet the future.

The cost for transpotation will increase rapidly in the future and this will affect US a lot harder than any country in the world. As far as i know US dont have any electric railway system at all. In europe and Asia almost every railway system is electrified and they have high speed trains and modern railways that can transport large amounts of goods and people. In the future transport of goods and persons with plane and trucks will not be competitive with large scale electric train systems.. The cost for co2 pollution will also increase and this will affect the US economy largely.

Here are som suggestions for a sustaniable future:
**Increase taxes on gasoline a lot. (6$ pr gallon is a fine price as a start and comparable to europe.).( Price today 3.5$ is very low and should be increased)

**Green taxes on cars with low fuel economy (SUVs for instance). In europe US suvs are so heavily taxed that it costs from 200.000$ and up.
**Use the taxes from gasoline and cars to build high speed train networks between all major cities across the country.
++more, their is a large potential for reduction in the transport sector. Building wind and solar etc. is fine but the largest potential is in the transport sector by reducing the consumption.

Is this a good idea as a start?
No.

America is not Europe.
Noep America is not europe and for that reason higher oil prices will hit us harder than it does them.
The USA was built around cheap abundant oil and we will pretty much collapse when it is no longer either cheap or abundant.
 

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I am a bit worried about the US oil consumption.
If the consume dosent decrease the economy wil decrease.

US consumes 22.7% of all oil in the world. US only have 2% of the worlds oil reserves and US will be more dependent on import in the future. US only have 4.5% of the worlds total population, but still they consume allmost 1/4 of the worlds oil. US is heavily dependent on oil compared to other countries.

The oil price will increase in the future years and the US oil production is falling and every year they get more and more dependent on oil import.
The whole US transportation system is build up on the idea that every person has its own car, and except from some european like cities like Chicago, NYC, SF their are almost no public transportation excisting. LA most be the worst example of a sustainable city in the world. Their must be a large potential to reduce the oil consumption in a city like this to meet the future.

The cost for transpotation will increase rapidly in the future and this will affect US a lot harder than any country in the world. As far as i know US dont have any electric railway system at all. In europe and Asia almost every railway system is electrified and they have high speed trains and modern railways that can transport large amounts of goods and people. In the future transport of goods and persons with plane and trucks will not be competitive with large scale electric train systems.. The cost for co2 pollution will also increase and this will affect the US economy largely.

Here are som suggestions for a sustaniable future:
**Increase taxes on gasoline a lot. (6$ pr gallon is a fine price as a start and comparable to europe.).( Price today 3.5$ is very low and should be increased)

**Green taxes on cars with low fuel economy (SUVs for instance). In europe US suvs are so heavily taxed that it costs from 200.000$ and up.
**Use the taxes from gasoline and cars to build high speed train networks between all major cities across the country.
++more, their is a large potential for reduction in the transport sector. Building wind and solar etc. is fine but the largest potential is in the transport sector by reducing the consumption.

Is this a good idea as a start?
My goodness, a euro who is living by the skin of his teeth trying to support half a dozen socialist governments and workers in France who demand a three month vacation every year is worried about US oil consumption. Go suck a tailpipe.
 

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Americans drive ridiculously huge SUVs that guzzle gas, and then complain about the cost of gas.

I laugh every time I see someone driving one of those 5,000 lb behemouths.
 
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S0n.........no worries here. You're in a 2006 mindest for the gay. Far left websites promote crap like we're living in 2006 too. Turn that shit off s0n............

Once the Varsity is placed in charge again in 2013, oil production will go through the roof because the public will be demanding it. For sure, we'll be running at light speed from European energy policies and all the green BS will be put on the back burner.
The oil production in the US reached its peak value in 1970, since then the producion has decreased and it will still decrease. US gets more dependent on oil import from other countries every year.

By 2011 US imported 57% of all oil consumed. US imports most of its oil from Canada and Mexico, but 56% of all oil reserves are located in the middel-east. So the US have to crawl for the arab states, cause if the arab states decides to stop their oil exports to the US, the US economy will collapse.

The oil price will regulate the demand, for the first time the US oil consumption have started decreasing the later years becaues of higer gasoline prices. In the future the gasoline prices will increase even more.

But in the last years we have seen progress in the US because of the increased gasoline costs. However a very good idea is to put more taxes on gasoline to decrease the consumption even more. I think a minimum price of 6$/gallon would be a good start, it would almost halve the consumption. With that price most americans would be forced to park their cars and only use it when it is nescesccary
 

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S0n.........no worries here. You're in a 2006 mindest for the gay. Far left websites promote crap like we're living in 2006 too. Turn that shit off s0n............

Once the Varsity is placed in charge again in 2013, oil production will go through the roof because the public will be demanding it. For sure, we'll be running at light speed from European energy policies and all the green BS will be put on the back burner.
The oil production in the US reached its peak value in 1970, since then the producion has decreased and it will still decrease. US gets more dependent on oil import from other countries every year.

By 2011 US imported 57% of all oil consumed. US imports most of its oil from Canada and Mexico, but 56% of all oil reserves are located in the middel-east. So the US have to crawl for the arab states, cause if the arab states decides to stop their oil exports to the US, the US economy will collapse.

The oil price will regulate the demand, for the first time the US oil consumption have started decreasing the later years becaues of higer gasoline prices. In the future the gasoline prices will increase even more.

But in the last years we have seen progress in the US because of the increased gasoline costs. However a very good idea is to put more taxes on gasoline to decrease the consumption even more. I think a minimum price of 6$/gallon would be a good start, it would almost halve the consumption. With that price most americans would be forced to park their cars and only use it when it is nescesccary
Whenever someone uses the "we are dependent on foreign oil" line I cringe...

Foreign oil is about as dubious a term as there is. First we have to realize that most of the actual discovery, drilling, refining, and selling or trading occurs either locally (refining, trade markets) or internationally by INTERNATIONAL CONGLOMERATES, corporations and funded by the other banks including the UN's World Bank. The UN itself is based in New York city but we do not even think of it as a US body now do we.

We are dependent on oil just as the rest of the world is, to maintain some silly idea that if its in the Middle East its foreign is just unrealistic in these modern times.

Matter of fact you have to look hard to find anything that is not made either fully or in part in another country these days. How can that be if there is still such a thing as "foreign oil"? Foreign oil is like the modern boogey man that politicians pull out to scare people.

Say the number 1 oil producing area declares war on us and stops supplying the markets what happens? Well we go in and take care of it and install a new government that sees it our way. We just did that recently maybe you all remember that? That's the reality of oil. Its no longer this or that countries property, not really. Its the worlds oil and has been since it became so important and scarce. Over the next few decades we will see the facade of national sovereignty crumble to dust, due to ever dwindling resources. There is no room for hording ones own resources, the world is too big and there are too many of us all needing the resources.
 

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I read somewhere that obama is pushing for some rail projects in the states. This said, the size of the country necessitates to use the car to a large extent. I think possible techological solutions could be to use hybrid cars and more efficient cars as well as use small cars. One good idea is to use 1 person cars ( if they could be found). This is because these kind of cars would be ultra light and therefore ultra efficient. Most car use anywhere around the world is when people go to their jobs and when they do they are going alone, so a one person car should do it.
 

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If the consume dosent decrease the economy wil decrease.

Here are som suggestions for a sustaniable future:
**Increase taxes on gasoline a lot. (6$ pr gallon is a fine price as a start and comparable to europe.).( Price today 3.5$ is very low and should be increased)

**Green taxes on cars with low fuel economy (SUVs for instance). In europe US suvs are so heavily taxed that it costs from 200.000$ and up.
**Use the taxes from gasoline and cars to build high speed train networks between all major cities across the country.
++more, their is a large potential for reduction in the transport sector. Building wind and solar etc. is fine but the largest potential is in the transport sector by reducing the consumption.

Is this a good idea as a start?

Those are stupid ideas to start or stop and your basic premise is flawed.
 

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I read somewhere that obama is pushing for some rail projects in the states. This said, the size of the country necessitates to use the car to a large extent. I think possible techological solutions could be to use hybrid cars and more efficient cars as well as use small cars. One good idea is to use 1 person cars ( if they could be found). This is because these kind of cars would be ultra light and therefore ultra efficient. Most car use anywhere around the world is when people go to their jobs and when they do they are going alone, so a one person car should do it.


Here we see the inherent flaw in assuming the 'solution' to anything is imposing restrictions on freedom or attempting to 'guide' behavior by people who assume they know best. If you take a minute to think about it you will could build a long list of what is wrong with your own 'suggestion' above. "I know! Everybody do this!" generally creates more problems than it solves.
 

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Say the number 1 oil producing area declares war on us and stops supplying the markets what happens? Well we go in and take care of it and install a new government that sees it our way. We just did that recently maybe you all remember that?


NO, because we did not do that.
 

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