bripat9643
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Even normal doses can cause big problems for some people.
US Kung Flu Death Rate almost cut in half.
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One day you will see the light and become a progressive.
As a nation we are getting our butts kicked by this virus. It isn't Trump's fault, we simply failed so blatantly miserably to be ready for a pandemic it's mind boggling. I am very very disappointed in my country. We should have been ready years and years ago.
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Wow... how is this thread title supposed to retain more than a second's rational interest '???'
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Six 200 mg tabs are a lot at one time. But you can mix acetaminophen with NSAID's; that is aspirin, or ibuprofen, or naproxen sodium. The reason is that NSAID's have one pathway through the liver but acetaminophen has a different pathway. You cannot mix NSAID's!
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You're right. No one will tell you this. That's because NO ONE calculates a "confirmed case death rate" except Donald Trump. That's because the number is a lie meant to deceive you into thinking things are getting better. You have 2.664 million "active cases" and you don't know how many of those people are going to die. This is just a calculation that Donald Trump came up with so his numbers don't look so bad.
“You Can’t Do That”: Trump Fact-Checked on COVID-19 Death Stats During Tense Interview
President Trump shuffled through papers and stumbled on words as a reporter corrected his outlandish claims about the coronavirus.
Your actual death rate is 5.8%. You calculate the actual death rate by dividing the number of deaths by the total number of resolved cases (deaths + recovered cases)
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5.8% Learn to tell the truth.
“You Can’t Do That”: Trump Fact-Checked on COVID-19 Death Stats During Tense Interview
President Trump shuffled through papers and stumbled on words as a reporter corrected his outlandish claims about the coronavirus.
Ray From Cleveland
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John Hopkins University disagrees with you. Their studies show we were the most prepared in the entire world:
US was more prepared for pandemic than any other country, Johns Hopkins study found
The United States was ranked the best-prepared country in the world to handle a pandemic in late 2019 by the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI) and the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security (JHU) -- an assessment seemingly at odds with claims by top Democrats that the Trump administration left...
www.foxnews.com
Ray From Cleveland
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Sure. According to her, they have a lot of drug problems in that little town she serves in. People come in for OD's and are either dead before they get there, or die while in the ER because they can't administer Narcan fast enough. If they have Covid in their blood work, it's a Covid death.
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Can and do are two different things. The main concern among caregivers are the lungs. The lungs are the most common reason for real Covid deaths.
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You're right. No one will tell you this. That's because NO ONE calculates a "confirmed case death rate" except Donald Trump. That's because the number is a lie meant to deceive you into thinking things are getting better. You have 2.664 million "active cases" and you don't know how many of those people are going to die. This is just a calculation that Donald Trump came up with so his numbers don't look so bad.
“You Can’t Do That”: Trump Fact-Checked on COVID-19 Death Stats During Tense Interview
President Trump shuffled through papers and stumbled on words as a reporter corrected his outlandish claims about the coronavirus.nowthisnews.com
Your actual death rate is 5.8%. You calculate the actual death rate by dividing the number of deaths by the total number of resolved cases (deaths + recovered cases)
Hmmm, wild guess is they're all going to die...eventually.
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And?
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I know, I knew, he blew, chunks!
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What about the other 3,330,000 million that had it and stayed healthy?
United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.www.worldometers.info
Cases which had an outcome:2,829,530
Recovered / Discharged 2,663,954 (94%)
Deaths 165,576 (6%)
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People dying is the most common reason for wuhan deaths. Ray, no one will ever convince me this fake pandemic.is actually occurring. Look at all the ads on tv and radio!!! All out before it hit. Now masks? On every ad! Yeah. Orchestrated and people are really stupid!! Logic has left humanity , I guess I’m one of the special people who get the hoax!
All this study is saying is that we had resources and plan laid out in place in 2019. It doesn’t somehow mean the execution of the response is somehow a reflection of that. The report pre-dated the actual response. The EXECUTION was botched.
John Hopkins University disagrees with you. Their studies show we were the most prepared in the entire world:
US was more prepared for pandemic than any other country, Johns Hopkins study found
The United States was ranked the best-prepared country in the world to handle a pandemic in late 2019 by the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI) and the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security (JHU) -- an assessment seemingly at odds with claims by top Democrats that the Trump administration left...
1) Hospitals were poorly equipped for the resources RELEVANT to COVID like ventilators.
2) Mass testing on a weekly basis began in other countries long before it happened in the US. Obvious that was critical to stopping the spread.
3) Trump ignored warnings by the government that COVID would be a problem in the US. Trump downplayed it for months and refused to do jack shit. Remember that? Of course you do. You’re just pretending it didn’t happen.
I hate how you douche bags cherry pick studies that fit your narrative and ignore the rest. Grow the fuck up.
The Lost Month: How a Failure to Test Blinded the U.S. to Covid-19 (Published 2020)
Aggressive screening might have helped contain the coronavirus in the United States. But technical flaws, regulatory hurdles and lapses in leadership let it spread undetected for weeks.
"But as the deadly virus spread from China with ferocity across the United States between late January and early March, large-scale testing of people who might have been infected did not happen — because of technical flaws, regulatory hurdles, business-as-usual bureaucracies and lack of leadership at multiple levels, according to interviews with more than 50 current and former public health officials, administration officials, senior scientists and company executives."
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All this study is saying is that we had resources and plan laid out in place in 2019. It doesn’t somehow mean the execution of the response is somehow a reflection of that. The report pre-dated the actual response. The EXECUTION was botched.
John Hopkins University disagrees with you. Their studies show we were the most prepared in the entire world:
US was more prepared for pandemic than any other country, Johns Hopkins study found
The United States was ranked the best-prepared country in the world to handle a pandemic in late 2019 by the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI) and the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security (JHU) -- an assessment seemingly at odds with claims by top Democrats that the Trump administration left...
1) Hospitals were poorly equipped for the resources RELEVANT to COVID like ventilators.
2) Mass testing on a weekly basis began in other countries long before it happened in the US. Obvious that was critical to stopping the spread.
3) Trump ignored warnings by the government that COVID would be a problem in the US. Trump downplayed it for months and refused to do jack shit. Remember that? Of course you do. You’re just pretending it didn’t happen.
I hate how you douche bags cherry pick studies that fit your narrative and ignore the rest. Grow the fuck up.
The Lost Month: How a Failure to Test Blinded the U.S. to Covid-19 (Published 2020)
Aggressive screening might have helped contain the coronavirus in the United States. But technical flaws, regulatory hurdles and lapses in leadership let it spread undetected for weeks.www.nytimes.com
"But as the deadly virus spread from China with ferocity across the United States between late January and early March, large-scale testing of people who might have been infected did not happen — because of technical flaws, regulatory hurdles, business-as-usual bureaucracies and lack of leadership at multiple levels, according to interviews with more than 50 current and former public health officials, administration officials, senior scientists and company executives."
When we finally realized it was a problem, we had test kits. The problem was we had only one kind that was approved by the FDA. Those kits were manufactured through the CDC. You know how these bureaucracies wash each others back.
When it was discovered that this only test kit allowed by the FDA was defective, Trump had to start from scratch to find us different ones. The problem with that was, so was the rest of the world.
When he finally found companies willing to help us, the Fn FDA still stalled in their approval process instead of fast-tracking it.
Ventilators: You are referring to the NYC ventilator potential shortage. Did you know that they had ample supply, but because of the cost to test and maintain that equipment, they sold all their ventilators off? Again, Trump went into the problem head on.
Do I remember Trump downplaying the virus? Yes I do. Do you remember Piglosi, Cuomo, and DeBlasio doing the same thing? Do you remember that the House spent the first two weeks of March trying to pass a bill to strip Trump's authority to issue travel bans?
President Trump ignored nothing. He acted on every advisory of our medical experts such as Fauci, Brix, and even the CDC.
Ray From Cleveland
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No, it is a pandemic, but a worldwide pandemic, not a US pandemic.
Hindsight is 20/20. What if we shutdown the country over H1N1? What if we shutdown the country over SARS? What if we shutdown the country over Ebola? What if we shutdown the country over the West Niles virus? What about AIDS?
We can't shutdown the country before a situation becomes a problem here. We can only act when it does become a real problem. Imagine what our economy would have been like if we shutdown the country over all of these things, plus 911! We would never have had an economy, and tens of trillions more in debt.
Dragonlady
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What about the other 3,330,000 million that had it and stayed healthy?
United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
Cases which had an outcome:2,829,530
Recovered / Discharged 2,663,954 (94%)
Deaths 165,576 (6%)
Congratulations on today's new milestone. As of today, the USA achieved a death rate of 500/1 million of population.
Total cases are 5,199,000 in the USA.
There are currently 2,369,126 "active" cases in the USA and the outcome for these people won't be known until their case is "resolved", either by their recovery or their death. Based on the current death rate, we can anticipate that more than 130,000 of them will die within the several weeks.
Only 2,663,954 had covid19 and RECOVERED. Many of the people who recovered have heart, lung, kidney and vascular damage. The didn't "stay healthy". Whether they will ever fully recover their health is not yet known. They may be left with permanent underlying conditions.
There is also the possibility that like other viruses like chicken pox or herpes, covid19 may remain dormant in the system and resurface later as something else. Chicken pox can resurface in later life as shingles. Those who were asymptomatic, may have lingering damage in their vascular systems, whether they know it or not. That's why younger people who have had covid are now dealing with sudden strokes or blood clots. Silent killers.
There's a lot we still don't know. Every week, something new comes out, and none of it is good.
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