Unsealed Trump Search Warrant - Trump had classified Documents

[kaz]

Trump has yet to say before any actual authority that any of these documents are declassified.

So now you're a total law and order guy to the point you want the President arrested for not following procedures sufficiently that he owns. I'm just laughing at the thought of you applying that or any standard to a Democrat President. Would never happen

 

[Marener]

So now you're a total law and order guy to the point you want the President arrested for not following procedures sufficiently that he owns. I'm just laughing at the thought of you applying that or any standard to a Democrat President. Would never happen

This really isn't about "procedures". It's about the fact that Trump hasn't even argued that these documents are declassified.

The law compels the government to work to protect classified information. Since there is no reason to believe that any of these documents are declassified, the government is doing the rational thing to get these documents back.

We cannot assume that the documents are declassified without a reason to believe so. It would be completely illogical.

 

[kaz]

This really isn't about "procedures". It's about the fact that Trump hasn't even argued that these documents are declassified.

The law compels the government to work to protect classified information. Since there is no reason to believe that any of these documents are declassified, the government is doing the rational thing to get these documents back.

We cannot assume that the documents are declassified without a reason to believe so. It would be completely illogical.

It is about procedures since Trump had the power to declassify them on the spot.

You are claiming he didn't. You have given no evidence of that.

Word

 

[Marener]

It is about procedures since Trump had the power to declassify them on the spot.

You are claiming he didn't. You have given no evidence of that.

Word

The documents are classified and will be treated as such until they are declassified.

Trump has given no indication he declassified. It would make no sense to treat them as declassified until he does.

 

[kaz]

This really isn't about "procedures". It's about the fact that Trump hasn't even argued that these documents are declassified.

The law compels the government to work to protect classified information. Since there is no reason to believe that any of these documents are declassified, the government is doing the rational thing to get these documents back.

We cannot assume that the documents are declassified without a reason to believe so. It would be completely illogical.

Do even you believe if this were a Democrat President you would have the same standard? This one's so petty. At least in Russia, Russia, Russia you racist Democrats made up an actual crime to accuse Trump of. Not like this stupid shit where you accuse Trump of committing a crime that he was literally the only person in the country that it wasn't a crime if he did it.

That it would have been legal but it wasn't because he didn't follow some procedure you imagine is your stupidest shit ever, and that says something. You've come up with some REALLY stupid shit

 

[Marener]

Trump didn't say that. A federal judge did in a case involving Clinton.

Trump hasn't declared any of these records personal.

But if he did, wouldn't you agree that would be contrary to the definition of personal records given in the PRA?

 

[Marener]

Do even you believe if this were a Democrat President you would have the same standard? This one's so petty. At least in Russia, Russia, Russia you racist Democrats made up an actual crime to accuse Trump of. Not like this stupid shit where you accuse Trump of committing a crime that he was literally the only person in the country that it wasn't a crime if he did it.

That it would have been legal but it wasn't because he didn't follow some procedure you imagine is your stupidest shit ever, and that says something. You've come up with some REALLY stupid shit

I don't think making up hypotheticals is helpful. Clearly you have you opinion and me saying anything else isn't going to change anything.

I'm not saying that he can't declassify documents. I'm not even saying he has to follow any specific procedure to do so.

All I'm saying is that Trump has yet to argue that these were actually declassified.

 

[kaz]

I don't think making up hypotheticals is helpful. Clearly you have you opinion and me saying anything else isn't going to change anything.

I'm not saying that he can't declassify documents. I'm not even saying he has to follow any specific procedure to do so.

All I'm saying is that Trump has yet to argue that these were actually declassified.

A hypothetical is something you make up.

I asked you what if this standard you are applying is real or not. It's not real because the answer is obviously no, you wouldn't apply that or any other actual standard to a Democrat

 

[Marener]

A hypothetical is something you make up.

I asked you what if this standard you are applying is real or not. It's not real because the answer is obviously no, you wouldn't apply that or any other actual standard to a Democrat

If you ask me a question where my answer is irrelevant, I'm going to respectfully pass. It is a hypothetical because your question was "if this was a Democrat...". Well, it's not a Democrat. It's Trump.

My point is that Trump hasn't said he declassified the documents, so the DoJ is going to continue to do what they are obligated to do, which is go after these documents to protect national security.

 

[playtime]

Based on what?

1st & foremost - logic. take off yer MAGA hat & put on yer critical thinking cap.

2nd: across the board policy regulations

WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF STANDARD DECLASSIFICATION MARKINGS?

The intent of uniform, conspicuous and standard markings is to leave no doubt about the classified status of the information. If standard declassification markings are not affixed to declassified records uncertainty is created for cleared holders of the record as to its classification status.

Declassification Frequently Asked Questions

https://www.archives.gov/files/isoo/notices/notice-2018-01.pdf

 

[RetiredGySgt]

This has nothing to do with declassification.

Trump has to turn over all his presidential records to the national archives the minute he leaves office.

Trump did not do that.

Now cite for us the PENALTY for that?

 

[BWK]

Now we find more are missing; Trump investigation: Empty folders marked classified found at Mar-a-Lago

Trump has to be brought in for questioning now.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Taking paper clips from your office is not a felony, moron.

Haha, wow. I have seen crackheads lying in the gutter with a stronger attachment to reality.

 

[BWK]

Now cite for us the PENALTY for that?

You retards keep asking the same stupid questions that have been answered hundreds of times? 18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material

 

[Mac1958]

If Trump says the sky is green, then the sky is green.

Is that about right?

Yeah, it's appropriate that Trump thinks he can wave his hand over a pile of documents, with no one seeing him do it, and suddenly they're declassified. Just like pretending government documents belong to him, and that he can carry them around wherever he wants. It's all part of the fantasy world that is the alternate universe.

Cult.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You retards keep asking the same stupid questions that have been answered hundreds of times? 18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material

that is not the statute that i asked about DUMBFUCK.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yeah, it's appropriate that Trump thinks he can wave his hand over a pile of documents, with no one seeing him do it, and suddenly they're declassified. Just like pretending government documents belong to him, and that he can carry them around wherever he wants. It's all part of the fantasy world that is the alternate universe.

Cult.

Of course, in the sworn court filings where there are penalties for lying, he states that they are classified documents.

 

[BWK]

that is not the statute that i asked about DUMBFUCK.

Doesn't matter. He's guilty of that one. Stay tuned.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Damn, we need a song you can use that really shows how much you trust and love the Democrat party

There already is!

It's called "Send in the Clowns".

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yeah, it's appropriate that Trump thinks he can wave his hand over a pile of documents, with no one seeing him do it, and suddenly they're declassified. Just like pretending government documents belong to him, and that he can carry them around wherever he wants. It's all part of the fantasy world that is the alternate universe.

Cult.

Who was carrying them around, dumbass?