Unsealed Trump Search Warrant - Trump had classified Documents

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Who was carrying them around, dumbass?

Did the documents walk from the storage room to Trump's desk? Drunk already?

 

[AntonToo]

Dumbest scandal ever. And that includes Russia, Russia, Russia. The President IS the standard for classified documents. Charging him with taking secret documents is like charging a man for stealing his own lawnmower. It's stupid as only Democrats can do stupid

Hate to give you the bad news, but Trump is not the president and is not allowed by law to keep any Presidential Records, much less classified documents he no longer has clearance for.

So who's dumb here? Everyone including DOJ and courts...or you?

 

[bripat9643]

Haha, wow. I have seen crackheads lying in the gutter with a stronger attachment to reality.

So you believe that says stealing paperclips is not a felony means you are detached from reality?

It's hard to believe you are for real.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump hasn't declared any of these records personal.

But if he did, wouldn't you agree that would be contrary to the definition of personal records given in the PRA?

The chances that I would agree with anything you posted are indistinguishable from zero

 

[Marener]

The chances that I would agree with anything you posted are indistinguishable from zero

I say the sky is blue. Do you agree?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So you believe that says stealing paperclips is not a felony means you are detached from reality?

Yes, spot on and deeply intellectual as usual. That is precisely what I meant. How did you get so damn smart, anyway?

 

[Flopper]

I know you're an idiot, but I'll ask anyway. None of you leftist nut jobs have been able to answer this.

What did Trump NOT DO that made what he did illegal? In other words, how did he NOT declassify them? Did he need to rub his stomach three times backwards? Pat the back of his left hand twice? What?

And provide a link, made up answers from a liar aren't believed

There is no procedure for presidential declassification. However, if the president does not inform anyone that documents are to be declassified, nothing happens and the documents remain classified.

I expect that asking a jury to believe he declassified documents with no proof will not fly. It simply is not reasonable that a president would declassify hundreds of documents some top secret without seeking advice of his security advisors. The far more plausible explanation is that he claimed after leaving the presidency that he declassified the documents in order to escape criminal charges.

 

[Flopper]

Right, that doesn't justify coming into a former President's house by force. I said this before, you're the one not clicking, Cicada

Reasonable suspicions that searching Mar A Lago would produce evidence of criminal activity is all that is needed for the search warrant. The fact classified documents were found illegally in Trump's possession indicates that those suspicions were correct.

 

[BWK]

Did the documents walk from the storage room to Trump's desk? Drunk already?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

He didnt but perhaps you can explain why an impartial DOJ and FBI are violating centuries of precedent to illegally leak in this case?

Because there is no real case. Because the best they can hope for is to persuade people not to vote for him. The staged photo op blew up immediately. Finding empty folders isn't going anywhere.

Why won't they give back the underwear? How classified is that?

 

[meaner gene]

A federal judge ruled otherwise.

“Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President’s term and in his sole discretion,” Jackson wrote.​

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“Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records,” the judge wrote.​

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The ruling also argued that the seizure of records such as these is inappropriate.​

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“Because the audiotapes are not physically in the government’s possession, defendant submits that it would be required to seize them directly from President Clinton in order to assume custody and control over them,” Jackson noted. “Defendant considers this to be an ‘extraordinary request’ that is ‘unfounded, contrary to the PRA’s express terms, and contrary to traditional principles of administrative law.’ The Court agrees.”​

Apparently you have the reading level of a chipmunk.

Let me show you where you made your mistake. You can apologize later.

“Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President’s term and in his sole discretion,” Jackson wrote.

Did you see the part about during his term]/B]

The president has discretion how to separate PRA from personal. But Trump failed to separate them during his term, and as a private citizen no longer has presidential discretion.

Do you understand where you went wrong?

 

[meaner gene]

The president makes the determination, moron, not some emo two-bit government functionary.

You're right. the president makes the determination. But Trump is no longer president, and once out of office, he can no longer make that determination.

The judge made it quite clear. That power belongs ONLY to the president, and ONLY during his term in office.

 

[meaner gene]

This still doesn't answer the question, what if he doesn't follow the agency's procedures, they call a group of cops to gang tackle him?

None of this says if the President keeps the documents, then they send in the FBI with search warrants to take every document in his house they can find.

And you still have zero links

Let me see if I can make this clear. It was 1998, and the FBI put Osama BinLaden on their most wanted list. Eventually upping the reward to $25 million for information leading to his apprehension or conviction. Nowhere does it give anybody permission to use deadly force.

That authorization came from other US government terrorist statutes, authorizing the government to use deadly force against terrorists.

When the PRA declared the documents Trump had as US property. Other statutes authorizing search warrants and raids to recover stolen US government property took effect.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes, spot on and deeply intellectual as usual. That is precisely what I meant. How did you get so damn smart, anyway?

Thanks for confirming that you're a moron.

 

[bripat9643]

You're right. the president makes the determination. But Trump is no longer president, and once out of office, he can no longer make that determination.

The judge made it quite clear. That power belongs ONLY to the president, and ONLY during his term in office.

He made the determination before he left office.

How many times does this have to be explained? One gets the impression that you are playing stupid.

 

[bripat9643]

Apparently you have the reading level of a chipmunk.

Let me show you where you made your mistake. You can apologize later.

“Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President’s term and in his sole discretion,” Jackson wrote.

Did you see the part about during his term]/B]

The president has discretion how to separate PRA from personal. But Trump failed to separate them during his term, and as a private citizen no longer has presidential discretion.

Do you understand where you went wrong?

He did separate them when he loaded them on the moving van, moron.

 

[bripat9643]

Reasonable suspicions that searching Mar A Lago would produce evidence of criminal activity is all that is needed for the search warrant. The fact classified documents were found illegally in Trump's possession indicates that those suspicions were correct.

Wrong. Read the 4th Amendment.

Fourth Amendment. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

Were Trump's passports on the list? Melania's underwear?

 

[playtime]

that is not the statute that i asked about DUMBFUCK.

§ 1924. Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material (a) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg.../USCODE-2009-title18-partI-chap93-sec1924.pdf

donny couldn't last a day without hair product to keep that tribble on his head tame. can you imagine what it would look like after a year?

LOL!!!!! AND he could get a year for EACH offense. there's well over 100 stolen docs found at mar a lago.

 

[playtime]

Hate to give you the bad news, but Trump is not the president and is not allowed by law to keep any Presidential Records, much less classified documents he no longer has clearance for.

So who's dumb here? Everyone including DOJ and courts...or you?

AND biden - who has the ultimate authority ... stripped donny of his security clearance long ago.

 

[kaz]

1st & foremost - logic. take off yer MAGA hat & put on yer critical thinking cap.

2nd: across the board policy regulations

WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF STANDARD DECLASSIFICATION MARKINGS?

The intent of uniform, conspicuous and standard markings is to leave no doubt about the classified status of the information. If standard declassification markings are not affixed to declassified records uncertainty is created for cleared holders of the record as to its classification status.

Declassification Frequently Asked Questions

https://www.archives.gov/files/isoo/notices/notice-2018-01.pdf

Did you have Hillary explain that to you???

Funny stuff. You're obnoxious and yet you didn't answer the question like all the others. My question was not what is the standard process for marking documents classified, that you didn't give a shit about when it was Hillary, critical thinking girl (sic).


The question was how do we know they were NOT declassified? You'd be losing your Democrat mind if this were reverse and Republicans were going after a Democrat President over documents he literally could declassify on the spot.

1) Learn what critical thinking actually means
2) Note it doesn't change by party like your standards do


MAGA!