Unsealed Trump Search Warrant - Trump had classified Documents

[Flopper]

Actually at noon on January 20th 2021, those records automatically changed hands from the office of the president, to the national archives.

That's in the PRA. Also in PRA is the statement that president is the custodian of presidential documents and they are not to be destroyed without being viewed by the National Archivist, another law that Trump ignored.

 

[bripat9643]

That's in the PRA. Also in PRA is the statement that president is the custodian of presidential documents and they are not to be destroyed without being viewed by National Archivist, another law that Trump ignored.

What's the penalty for that?

 

[bripat9643]

That's in the PRA. Also in PRA is the statement that president is the custodian of presidential documents and they are not to be destroyed without being viewed by the National Archivist, another law that Trump ignored.

Quote it.

 

[Faun]

No it doesn't. You're talking about details after the fact.

******* moron, if you were able to view a document marked up only as classified, how the **** would you know it's not classified?

 

[Flopper]

I can cite a punishment for keeping them despite having been served a grand jury subpoena requiring their return.

It's part of his Plan to Make America Great Again.

 

[bripat9643]

******* moron, if you were able to view a document marked up only as classified, how the **** would you know it's not classified?

Could you translate that into English?

 

[meaner gene]

The president determines which documents are "presidential records," morons. I've already proved that.

And I proved that the documents Trump had were government property.
As all classified materials begin as government property, and after declassification remain government property. The only way for Trump to convert them into personal property is by purchase, or documented legal transfer. Which DID NOT HAPPEN.

Trump can no more declare a document to be personal property than he can declare air force one to be personal property.

 

[meaner gene]

How could they be in the government's possession of they were in storage at Mar A Lago?

Simple. Trump stole them.

Thank you very much.

 

[Flopper]

True.

The physical transfer usually occurs throughout their presidency. With the remaining records (from ongoing business) starting during the presidential transition. Normally mid november, to at late as mid december of the election year.

This gives the white house time to collect and organize the millions of pages of presidential records gifts, and other property of the office. And to archive, duplicate or transfer them to the incoming administration.

Yep.
Actually, most presidential records are in digital format and are stored at an NARA facility. However, this achieving of documents does not occur daily. When a president leaves office, many documents are found on office servers and computers. Also, handwritten notes, memos received, drafts of presidential speeches along with changes, original documents signed by the president are all found in White House files. Tweets and Facebook documents are also considered presidential document. Vice Predental files are also considered presidential and handled the same as the presidential documents.

On moving day in the West Wing, actually serval days, thousands of documents are transferred to the NARA facility plus various artifacts and gifts. Historians begin a process of going through all of these documents plus those that are achieved to determine documents that have historical or possible evidentiary value. Only 1 in 20 meets that requirement. Those that do are put in standard digital format and indexed for on line research. Those that do not are maintained a number of years and then destroyed.

 

[meaner gene]

That's in the PRA. Also in PRA is the statement that president is the custodian of presidential documents and they are not to be destroyed without being viewed by the National Archivist, another law that Trump ignored.

Another part of the law that Trump ignored. Even though we have reports of Trump repeatedly ripping up papers once he was finished with them. And his aides having to get them out of the garbage, and use clear tape to try and piece them back together again, before sending them to the National Archives.

And that was early in Trumps term.

Toward the end, the aides sent the shards of paper in an envelope for NARA.

 

[Faun]

Could you translate that into English?

That was perfect English. You would have known that if you weren't such a ******* moron and also not such a ***** by running away from answering the question.

 

[kaz]

The question of classification isn't even important when it comes to the statutes from the search warrant. Trump stole government property PERIOD.
No different than if Trump tried to put the presidential limo into his private garage, or keep AF-1 next to his other jet.

I nominate this for the dumbest post of the year. How do we submit those, anyway? You must have won it before

 

[kaz]

Unsealed Search Warrant with receipt of items taken shows Trump had:
Top Secret Classified Documents
Confidential Classified Documents
Miscellaneous Secret Documents

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/08/read-the-unsealed-trump-search-warrant.html

I know you're an idiot, but I'll ask anyway. None of you leftist nut jobs have been able to answer this.

What did Trump NOT DO that made what he did illegal? In other words, how did he NOT declassify them? Did he need to rub his stomach three times backwards? Pat the back of his left hand twice? What?

And provide a link, made up answers from a liar aren't believed

 

[Faun]

I know you're an idiot, but I'll ask anyway. None of you leftist nut jobs have been able to answer this.

What did Trump NOT DO that made what he did illegal? In other words, how did he NOT declassify them? Did he need to rub his stomach three times backwards? Pat the back of his left hand twice? What?

And provide a link, made up answers from a liar aren't believed

As has been explained to you, the statutes listed in the search warrant don't even pertain to classified documents.

 

[meaner gene]

I know you're an idiot, but I'll ask anyway. None of you leftist nut jobs have been able to answer this.

What did Trump NOT DO that made what he did illegal? In other words, how did he NOT declassify them? Did he need to rub his stomach three times backwards? Pat the back of his left hand twice? What?

And provide a link, made up answers from a liar aren't believed

What Trump did NOT DO, is to turn those records over to the National Archives, as required by law.

Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. ß2201-2209, governs the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents that were created or received after January 20, 1981 (i.e., beginning with the Reagan Administration). The PRA changed the legal ownership of the official records of...

www.archives.gov

The PRA changed the legal ownership of the official records of the President from private to public

Establishes public ownership of all Presidential records and defines the term Presidential records.

Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.

 

[Flopper]

Omission? God you're stupid. So Hillary put e-mails on her own private server and just forgot to file a form. You'll believe literally anything the Democrat Party tells you to, it's incredible.

On the other hand, Trump, who literally can't commit a crime by taking documents WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT because his taking them literally declassified them and you want to hang him. Of course you do, you're a mental stooge

Trump took the documents, destroyed some of them, ignored a subpoena, lied about having them and now it appears he tried to hide them from the FBI. Clinton forwarded some emails written by others that contained classified information stored an unauthorized sever. Trump took hundreds of classified documents filled with classified information. What Clinton did does not even come close to Trump's crimes.

 

[kaz]

What Trump did NOT DO, is to turn those records over to the National Archives, as required by law.

Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. ß2201-2209, governs the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents that were created or received after January 20, 1981 (i.e., beginning with the Reagan Administration). The PRA changed the legal ownership of the official records of...

www.archives.gov

The PRA changed the legal ownership of the official records of the President from private to public

Establishes public ownership of all Presidential records and defines the term Presidential records.

Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.

So Trump has to ask the guy who documents his permission to change the status of the documents to unclassified? We know that's not true.

You did not answer the question. Trump decides a document isn't classified and takes it. Your answer seriously is it's up to the documenter? That's just so stupid, so you

 

[kaz]

Trump took the documents, destroyed some of them, ignored a subpoena, lied about having them and now it appears he tried to hide them from the FBI. Clinton forwarded some emails written by others that contained classified information stored an unauthorized sever. Trump took hundreds of classified documents filled with classified information. What Clinton did does not even come close to Trump's crimes.

Damn, we need a song you can use that really shows how much you trust and love the Democrat party

 

[meaner gene]

So Trump has to ask the guy who documents his permission to change the status of the documents to unclassified? We know that's not true.

You did not answer the question. Trump decides a document isn't classified and takes it. Your answer seriously is it's up to the documenter? That's just so stupid, so you

This has nothing to do with declassification.

Trump has to turn over all his presidential records to the national archives the minute he leaves office.

Trump did not do that.

 

[kaz]

This has nothing to do with declassification.

Trump has to turn over all his presidential records to the national archives the minute he leaves office.

Trump did not do that.

Yes, and that's something that they discussion with him, not forcibly search his house. You Nazis search houses