U.S. Supreme Court to hear Trump bid to exclude illegal immigrants from representation

[bigrebnc1775]

Why should illegals have political representation?

No clue how the court will respond, but it's an easy enough question.

U.S. Supreme Court to hear Trump bid to exclude illegal immigrants from representation

The Census does more than apportion political representation.

Illegals shouldn't be counted in the census.

Feel free to amend the Constitution....

The constitution only applies to US citizens. Please show me in the constitution where it states that non-citizens have the right to vote, to be represented by electors, or to be counted in the census.

Does The Constitution Protect Non-Citizens? Judges Say Yes

The Constitution applies to everyone here.

They don't have a right to vote
They don't have the right to free speech
They don't have a right to carry a firearm
actually, they have zero rights in regards to the Constitution

 

[pknopp]

Why should illegals have political representation?

No clue how the court will respond, but it's an easy enough question.

U.S. Supreme Court to hear Trump bid to exclude illegal immigrants from representation

Why? Because that's what the Constitution call for.

The U.S. Constitution empowers the Congress to carry out the census in "such manner as they shall by Law direct" (Article I, Section 2). The Founders of our fledgling nation had a bold and ambitious plan to empower the people over their new government. The plan was to count every person living in the newly created United States of America, and to use that count to determine representation in the Congress.

Census in the Constitution.

A census counter is completely unable to determine who is here legally or not at that. This is just another case where the government tries to blame others for it's failures.

Technically, it calls for the enumeration of "the whole Number of free Persons". At that time of writing there was no immigration law as there was no reason to have any.

Illegal aliens are not "free" but only "free-roaming", no different than a burglar who enters your house.

There is no logic in giving Congressional representation to foreign entities.

People will argue that there were no semi-automatic weapons back then either so banning them is OK.

None of it is OK. Besides, they are not foreign entities. They are people here processing our food. Caring for our children. Taking care of our lawns,

all jobs unemployed America citizens should be doing

Irrelevant. They have to be paid a legal wage and have taxes paid. Many employers and Wall Street isn't interested in that so it's not going to happen.

it's relevant if criminals are taking from rightful citizens

And yet it isn't. You will be arguing this 10,20,30 years from now.

 

[pknopp]

Why should illegals have political representation?

No clue how the court will respond, but it's an easy enough question.

U.S. Supreme Court to hear Trump bid to exclude illegal immigrants from representation

The Census does more than apportion political representation.

Illegals shouldn't be counted in the census.

Feel free to amend the Constitution....

The constitution only applies to US citizens. Please show me in the constitution where it states that non-citizens have the right to vote, to be represented by electors, or to be counted in the census.

Does The Constitution Protect Non-Citizens? Judges Say Yes

The Constitution applies to everyone here.

They don't have a right to vote
They don't have the right to free speech
They don't have a right to carry a firearm
actually, they have zero rights in regards to the Constitution

And yet they do per the Constitution and US Supreme court.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

People will argue that there were no semi-automatic weapons back then either so banning them is OK.

None of it is OK. Besides, they are not foreign entities. They are people here processing our food. Caring for our children. Taking care of our lawns,

Breaking our laws, depleting our safety net for citizens of this country, gaming our tax laws, etc.

The very fact they are here proves they have no respect for our laws.

 

[pknopp]

People will argue that there were no semi-automatic weapons back then either so banning them is OK.

None of it is OK. Besides, they are not foreign entities. They are people here processing our food. Caring for our children. Taking care of our lawns,

Breaking our laws, depleting our safety net for citizens of this country, gaming our tax laws, etc.

The very fact they are here proves they have no respect for our laws.

As it goes for the businesses hiring them.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

As it goes for the businesses hiring them.

A business knowingly hiring illegal aliens is breaking the law and subject to penalties.

 

[pknopp]

As it goes for the businesses hiring them.

A business knowingly hiring illegal aliens is breaking the law and subject to penalties.

In theory.

 

[Billy_Bob]

As it goes for the businesses hiring them.

A business knowingly hiring illegal aliens is breaking the law and subject to penalties.

In theory.

NO THEORY ABOUT IT... ITS THE LAW

 

[pknopp]

As it goes for the businesses hiring them.

A business knowingly hiring illegal aliens is breaking the law and subject to penalties.

In theory.

NO THEORY ABOUT IT... ITS THE LAW

When laws are not enforced they really aren't laws.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

In theory.

Largest US immigration raids in a decade net 680 arrests

MORTON, Miss. (AP) — U.S. immigration officials raided seven Mississippi chicken processing plants Wednesday, arresting 680 mostly Latino workers in the largest workplace sting in at least a decade.

apnews.com

In fact, actually. Does ICE catch every Thomaso, Ricardo and Geraldo cutting lawns? No.
But illegals are subject to arrest and deportation, despite your claims to the contrary.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

When laws are not enforced they really aren't laws.

Sporadically or intermittently enforced laws are absolutely still laws. Your bullshit is weak.

If you notice some people rolling through a stop sign on the outskirts of town try it with a cop sitting there.
See what happens.

 

[martybegan]

Why should illegals have political representation?

No clue how the court will respond, but it's an easy enough question.

U.S. Supreme Court to hear Trump bid to exclude illegal immigrants from representation

The Census does more than apportion political representation.

Illegals shouldn't be counted in the census.

Feel free to amend the Constitution....

Not necessary. Enforce existing law.

The current constitution says count persons....
If you're talking about deporting people...you blob has had 4 years...he's not done shit on that front either.

Remember how you guys were beating your chests about federal agents driving around scooping up illegals by the bus load?

It never happened.....

No amnesty has gone out, and that would have been agenda item #3 if Hillary had won and gotten a compliant congress.

 

[pknopp]

In theory.

Largest US immigration raids in a decade net 680 arrests

MORTON, Miss. (AP) — U.S. immigration officials raided seven Mississippi chicken processing plants Wednesday, arresting 680 mostly Latino workers in the largest workplace sting in at least a decade.

apnews.com

In fact, actually. Does ICE catch every Thomaso, Ricardo and Geraldo cutting lawns? No.
But illegals are subject to arrest and deportation, despite your claims to the contrary.

This investigation was instituted under Obama and what happened to those illegals after they were processed?

They were returned to work.

What happened to the employer? Nothing.

And this is one business out of tens of thousands.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

This investigation was instituted under Obama and what happened to those illegals after they were processed?

They were returned to work.

What happened to the employer? Nothing.

And this is one business out of tens of thousands.

You can document what you claim....right?
You're a known and documented liar, so fuck off.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Why should illegals have political representation?

No clue how the court will respond, but it's an easy enough question.

U.S. Supreme Court to hear Trump bid to exclude illegal immigrants from representation

Why? Because that's what the Constitution call for.

The U.S. Constitution empowers the Congress to carry out the census in "such manner as they shall by Law direct" (Article I, Section 2). The Founders of our fledgling nation had a bold and ambitious plan to empower the people over their new government. The plan was to count every person living in the newly created United States of America, and to use that count to determine representation in the Congress.

Census in the Constitution.

A census counter is completely unable to determine who is here legally or not at that. This is just another case where the government tries to blame others for it's failures.

Technically, it calls for the enumeration of "the whole Number of free Persons". At that time of writing there was no immigration law as there was no reason to have any.

Illegal aliens are not "free" but only "free-roaming", no different than a burglar who enters your house.

There is no logic in giving Congressional representation to foreign entities.

People will argue that there were no semi-automatic weapons back then either so banning them is OK.

None of it is OK. Besides, they are not foreign entities. They are people here processing our food. Caring for our children. Taking care of our lawns,

all jobs unemployed America citizens should be doing

Irrelevant. They have to be paid a legal wage and have taxes paid. Many employers and Wall Street isn't interested in that so it's not going to happen.

it's relevant if criminals are taking from rightful citizens

And yet it isn't. You will be arguing this 10,20,30 years from now.

and so you're wrong

 

[bigrebnc1775]

As it goes for the businesses hiring them.

A business knowingly hiring illegal aliens is breaking the law and subject to penalties.

In theory.

NO THEORY ABOUT IT... ITS THE LAW

When laws are not enforced they really aren't laws.

Laws are laws while they remain laws regardless if they are enforced or not.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Why should illegals have political representation?

No clue how the court will respond, but it's an easy enough question.

U.S. Supreme Court to hear Trump bid to exclude illegal immigrants from representation

The Census does more than apportion political representation.

Illegals shouldn't be counted in the census.

Feel free to amend the Constitution....

The constitution only applies to US citizens. Please show me in the constitution where it states that non-citizens have the right to vote, to be represented by electors, or to be counted in the census.

Does The Constitution Protect Non-Citizens? Judges Say Yes

The Constitution applies to everyone here.

They don't have a right to vote
They don't have the right to free speech
They don't have a right to carry a firearm
actually, they have zero rights in regards to the Constitution

And yet they do per the Constitution and US Supreme court.

actually no they don't
How many illegals voted in any federal election and not be arrested when caught doing so?

 

[JGalt]

In theory.

Largest US immigration raids in a decade net 680 arrests

MORTON, Miss. (AP) — U.S. immigration officials raided seven Mississippi chicken processing plants Wednesday, arresting 680 mostly Latino workers in the largest workplace sting in at least a decade.

apnews.com

In fact, actually. Does ICE catch every Thomaso, Ricardo and Geraldo cutting lawns? No.
But illegals are subject to arrest and deportation, despite your claims to the contrary.

This investigation was instituted under Obama and what happened to those illegals after they were processed?

They were returned to work.

What happened to the employer? Nothing.

And this is one business out of tens of thousands.

Businesses who hire illegals are no less the victim of those illegals, as are drug-users. Which one is more criminal? The drug dealer or the one who purchases the drug from the dealer?

A comparison can be made between an illegal alien, and a drug pusher: If there were no drug dealers, there would be no drug users. Similarly, if there were no illegals, companies would not be hiring illegals.

It's that simple.

 

[DGS49]

Maybe i have wrote this here before, but when the SC shoots down the Trump Administration on this, as they certainly will, will the NYT note that the radical Conservatives on the Court WENT AGAINST THE PRESIDENT?

Don't think so.

 

[pknopp]

In theory.

Largest US immigration raids in a decade net 680 arrests

MORTON, Miss. (AP) — U.S. immigration officials raided seven Mississippi chicken processing plants Wednesday, arresting 680 mostly Latino workers in the largest workplace sting in at least a decade.

apnews.com

In fact, actually. Does ICE catch every Thomaso, Ricardo and Geraldo cutting lawns? No.
But illegals are subject to arrest and deportation, despite your claims to the contrary.

This investigation was instituted under Obama and what happened to those illegals after they were processed?

They were returned to work.

What happened to the employer? Nothing.

And this is one business out of tens of thousands.

Businesses who hire illegals are no less the victim of those illegals, as are drug-users. Which one is more criminal? The drug dealer or the one who purchases the drug from the dealer?

A comparison can be made between an illegal alien, and a drug pusher: If there were no drug dealers, there would be no drug users. Similarly, if there were no illegals, companies would not be hiring illegals.

It's that simple.

This is why the issue will never be dealt with. In reality the businesses are the dealers.