Trump ultimatum: Open Hormuz in 48-hours or your powerplants will be destroyed. (Poll)

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Nope, Trump doesn’t want to do it because it will cause pain on the people of Iran, who are overwhelmingly on our and Israel’s side now.

The people he convinced you were all such scumbags that he banned any of them from visiting our country, while you sealclapped?

Could either of you BE any more phony?

 

[Zavulon]

Trump is "negotiating".

If you destroy the powerplants you have no leverage. Watch how it plays out.

 

[kyzr]

If the US does that the Iranian public are not going to "overthrow" their government, there are in fact backing it hugely if you care to check.
So there will be no regime change.

Maybe you missed the part where the IRGC killed 32,000 protesters?
Iranians want regime change.

Second Iran only has to keep the strait closed, that's easily within their reach, there is simply no way the US can prevent Iran from keeping the strait closed.

Keep watching. Either they open Hormuz or they die.

Third Iran has a huge number of missiles and drones, it used those at a high rate initially to drain Israel's and Gulf States defence missiles (1 drone costs 40 K a defence missile costs 2 million).

Most of their missiles and drones are buried in tunnels. Besides, they won't launch anything if they are dead.

Iran doesn't need to "win" it cannot win, it knows that, but it can continue to put huge pressure on the US indirectly through the economic impacts. It wants this to stop and it can be stopped now by the US and accept the situation or it can continue because of trump's ego and his subservience to Israel and costs and consequences and deaths continue.

Keep watching. What happens if their powerplants get destroyed?

Look at Russia/Ukraine, it was the standard view when that war started that Russia would win that in a few weeks, its still raging.

So is the US and EU providing $billions in aid to Iran? The short answer is no.

Do you really believe that thousands of US soldiers lives is a price worth paying for Israel's extremist ideology?

Keep watching. The US has Mr. Wizard on our side.

This is sheer idiocy, tell me what exact benefit are American people getting from this circus? nothing, they are less safe now because there are Iranians willing to resort to terrorism because their families have been blown to pieces.
Gas is costing more, farmers must pay more for fertilizer, 13 soldiers have died, hundreds are injured, lost limbs, blinded etc and US bases damaged, tourism to the Gulf has stopped. The whole thing has ZERO benefit for Americans.

We get rid of the head of the terrorist snake, one way or another.

 

[Roudy]

Your lashing out irrationally and lying about me "rooting for America’s defeat and failure" does not address Trump's ongoing fiasco, and its global consequences.

Most Americans oppose military action in Iran, give Trump negative ratings on the economy​

When will your increasingly unpopular messiah extricate the U.S. from his mess?

What fiasco is this, Trump taking care of a cancer upon humanity aka the evil Islamic regime of Iran that has been metastasizing for the last 50 years, while also saving the people of Iran? The fact that you are calling it a “fiasco” despite it being such an obvious success and a noble humanitarian cause is proof enough that you are a psycho infected with TDS that is rooting for America to fail.

 

[Roudy]

Trump is "negotiating".

If you destroy the powerplants you have no leverage. Watch how it plays out.

Trump is negotiating, this is all a head fake, they are planning something else…the talks will fail.

 

[Roudy]

The people he convinced you were all such scumbags that he banned any of them from visiting our country, while you sealclapped?

Could either of you BE any more phony?

He banned Iranians because we can’t trust who they will sneak inside with our borders with the intent to terrorise what kind of WMD. Remember your walking corpse Biden let in over 15 million and we have no idea what their background is or what their intention is.

 

[schmidlap]

What fiasco is this, Trump taking care of a cancer upon humanity aka the evil Islamic regime of Iran that has been metastasizing for the last 50 years, while also saving the people of Iran? The fact that you are calling it a “fiasco” despite it being such an obvious success and a noble humanitarian cause is proof enough that you are a psycho infected with TDS that is rooting for America to fail.

You are entitled to your aberrant view.

Your sniveling about me is applicable to most patriotic Americans:

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[Roudy]

You are entitled to your aberrant view.

Your sniveling about me is applicable to most patriotic Americans:

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Ha ha ha, Leftist ***** thinks he represents “most patriotic Americans”.

Republicans have actually become more popular since Iran war started

One aggregator shows the gap between parties has narrowed since the latest conflict broke out in February.

www.newsweek.com

 

[schmidlap]

Ha ha ha, Leftist ***** thinks he represents “most patriotic Americans”.

Republicans have actually become more popular since Iran war started

One aggregator shows the gap between parties has narrowed since the latest conflict broke out in February.

www.newsweek.com

Most Americans (most Independents and most Democrats) disapprove of Trump

The margin of disapproval has been increasing.

I share most Americans' low regard for Trump.

 

[Roudy]

Most Americans (most Independents and most Democrats) disapprove of Trump

The margin of disapproval has been increasing.

I share most Americans' low regard for Trump.

Meh, as indicated, Trump’s approval has gone up among republicans since the Iran war, so you don’t represent “most Americans”.

 

[schmidlap]

The majority of Americans who disapprove of the Blowhard's "little excursion" is growing.

Approval of Military Action Against Iran | RealClearPolling

Approval of Military Action Against Iran | RealClearPolling

www.realclearpolling.com

 

[Roudy]

The majority of Americans who disapprove of the Blowhard's "little excursion" is growing.

Approval of Military Action Against Iran | RealClearPolling

Approval of Military Action Against Iran | RealClearPolling

www.realclearpolling.com

And when the regime collapses you guys will find something else about Trump to jack off to.

 

[schmidlap]

Meh, as indicated, Trump’s approval has gone up among republicans since the Iran war, so you don’t represent “most Americans”.

Most Americans increasingly disapprove of Trump and his "Little Excursion," as well as regards other significant issue polled:

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Fortunately. most Republicans kowtowing to Trump has resulted in Democrats having a consistent generic ballot advantage for November:

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[Zavulon]

The EU did not "hire" Ukrainians" to attack Russians, that is propaganda.

It is exactly what they did.

Russia invaded Ukraine, and the EU helped Ukrainians defend themselves from Russia's invasion.

It.was Kievan regime who started genocide of Russian people and military operation against DPR and LPR.

So you were exposed to Russian propaganda, and now you spread it?

Everyone is exposed to propaganda.
But not everyone has "critical thinking" to see behind the screen. You hasn't.

Agreed that a nuclear war kills millions of human beings, a lose-lose scenario.

Even if the price of victory is millions of killed human beings (specifically - our citizens) it's still victory. We survived, they didn't - what else can we wish?

Stay in the recent past, not ancient history. We invaded Iraq and gave them their country back. Iraq is prospering.

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Of course it's in much deeper shit that it was under Suddam.

Plain lie.

No one wins a nuclear war.

We are going to win, simply because we don't have other option.

 

[kyzr]

It is exactly what they did.
It was Kiev's regime who started genocide of Russian people and military operation against DPR and LPR.

There was a war with military casualties on both sides, there was no "genocide".

Did Ukraine kill 14,000 pro-Russians and civilians in Donbass?

The answer to this question is No. 14,000 is the number of the total victims of the war in Donbass on both sides.

www.mercatornet.com

"In conclusion, there was no “genocide” of the Donbass population by the Ukrainian army. There was a war, provoked by Russia in violation not only of the territorial integrity of a sovereign state but also of the treaty it signed in Budapest in 1994. Like all wars, there were casualties on both sides. Sadly, civilians also died. They were killed, again, by both sides. To claim that all the 14,000 victims of the war in Donbass were “killed by the Ukrainians” is just primitive propaganda. Unfortunately, some in the West uncritically believe and propagate it."

Even if the price of victory is millions of killed human beings (specifically - our citizens) it's still victory. We survived, they didn't - what else can we wish?

Wish for no war, no death and destruction. Wish for peace and prosperity.

Of course it's in much deeper shit that it was under Saddam.

Iraq is doing much better than under Saddam

https://www.focus-economics.com/countries/iraq/

We are going to win a nuclear war, simply because we don't have another option.

Sure you have other options. End the war in Ukraine and focus on building a more diversified economy.
Russia's population is shrinking by about 300,000 a year, probably due to so many young men dying in Ukraine.
You don't want to lose 70m or 80 million Russians in a nuclear war, do you?

Russia Population (1960-2026) & Projected decline

The current population of Russia is 141,906,741 people, as of 2026 based on the adjusted UN estimation. The latest officially reported number was 143,533,851 in 2024.

georank.org

 

[Zavulon]

There was a war with military casualties on both sides, there was no "genocide".

Did Ukraine kill 14,000 pro-Russians and civilians in Donbass?

The answer to this question is No. 14,000 is the number of the total victims of the war in Donbass on both sides.

www.mercatornet.com

"In conclusion, there was no “genocide” of the Donbass population by the Ukrainian army. There was a war, provoked by Russia in violation not only of the territorial integrity of a sovereign state but also of the treaty it signed in Budapest in 1994. Like all wars, there were casualties on both sides. Sadly, civilians also died. They were killed, again, by both sides. To claim that all the 14,000 victims of the war in Donbass were “killed by the Ukrainians” is just primitive propaganda. Unfortunately, some in the West uncritically believe and propagate it."

There is intentional genocide of Russian people in Ukraine. It was Kievan Junta who started mass-murders of Russian people, and Donbass rebellion was just self-defense. People (any people) have right to speak their language and be a layman of any Church they want. When you denie the basic human rights for Russians, when you neglect their suffer and value of their lifes you just prove that you are a Nazi.

Wish for no war, no death and destruction. Wish for peace and prosperity.

It is exactly what we want. And to protect our lives and property we have to kill people who are killing us and taking our property.

Iraq is doing much better than under Saddam

https://www.focus-economics.com/countries/iraq/

Plain and obvious lie.

Sure you have other options. End the war in Ukraine and focus on building a more diversified economy.

Yep. Right after we roll NATO forces back to Elbe river.

Russia's population is shrinking by about 300,000 a year, probably due to so many young men dying in Ukraine.
You don't want to lose 70m or 80 million Russians in a nuclear war, do you?

Russia Population (1960-2026) & Projected decline

The current population of Russia is 141,906,741 people, as of 2026 based on the adjusted UN estimation. The latest officially reported number was 143,533,851 in 2024.

georank.org

It depends on alternative scenarios. Even losing half of Russia's population is better than losing 100%. And no, 70 mln is not achievable for you even in the most unrealistic scenario of "Mad Butcher" - out of blue, all out, American nuclear attack on sleeping Russian cities without even a slightest attempt to attack Russian nuclear forces and/or protect American population. In Mad Butcher scenario you hardly will be able to kill more than 30 mln of Russians. In realistic scenarios, especially in the scenarios of first Russian attack, this number will be much lesser.

 

[kyzr]

There is intentional genocide of Russian people in Ukraine. It was Kiev's Junta who started mass-murders of Russian people, and Donbass rebellion was just self-defense. People (any people) have right to speak their language and be a layman of any Church they want. When you deny the basic human rights for Russians, when you neglect their suffer and value of their lives you just prove that you are a Nazi.

Putin just wanted a pretext to invade Ukraine. Any excuse would do. The 2014 borders were fine, DPR & LPR were yours.
There are no Russian people in Ukraine, only Ukrainians, and they are defeating the Russian invaders.

It is exactly what we want. And to protect our lives and property we have to kill people who are killing us and taking our property.

LOL. You want peace and prosperity, but you have to kill Ukrainians to take their property. You got Crimea, that's enough.

Plain and obvious lie.

I gave a link proving Iraq is doing well, you type lies.

Yep. Right after we roll NATO forces back to Elbe river.

Good luck with that.

It depends on alternative scenarios. Even losing half of Russia's population is better than losing 100%. And no, 70 mln is not achievable for you even in the most unrealistic scenario of "Mad Butcher" - out of blue, all out, American nuclear attack on sleeping Russian cities without even a slightest attempt to attack Russian nuclear forces and/or protect American population. In Mad Butcher scenario you hardly will be able to kill more than 30 mln of Russians. In realistic scenarios, especially in the scenarios of first Russian attack, this number will be much less.

Keep your 142 million Russians safe. Don't launch or you will be very sorry, you have nothing to gain and a lot to lose.

 

[dudmuck]

And when the regime collapses you guys will find something else about Trump to jack off to.

Trump is helping Russia, and Russia is helping Iran, so there wont be any collapse.

 

[Zavulon]

Putin just wanted a pretext to invade Ukraine. Any excuse would do. The 2014 borders were fine, DPR & LPR were yours.

As I said - it's just typical Nazi mindset of yours. "Russians are bloodthristy goons, lead by irrational dictator", who have no human rights and who can be killed in any numbers by any western puppet.
And there won't be real peace between Russian and America until you change that mindset.

There are no Russian people in Ukraine, only Ukrainians, and they are defeating the Russian invaders.

Of course there are Russian people. Actually, Ukrainians are Russians, too. Just like Californians are Americans.

LOL. You want peace and prosperity, but you have to kill Ukrainians to take their property. You got Crimea, that's enough.

It's not enough until NATO threat is annihilated.

Good luck with that.

Keep your 142 million Russians safe.

They can't be safe when NATO prozies commit genocide of Russians in Ukraine and in Baltic states.

Don't launch or you will be very sorry, you have nothing to gain and a lot to lose.

Bla-bla-bla. May be, we'll be sorry, but if you retaliate - more than 90% of you will be dead in less than one year.

 

[kyzr]

As I said - it's just typical Nazi mindset of yours. "Russians are bloodthirsty goons, lead by irrational dictator", who has no human rights and who can be killed in any numbers by any western puppet. And there won't be real peace between Russia and America until you change that mindset.

It is a FACT that Russia invaded Ukraine.
There is no "mindset", just a simple fact that Putin needs to end the invasion of Ukraine, or the stupid costly war will continue.

Of course there are Russian people in Ukraine. Actually, Ukrainians are Russians, too. Just like Californians are Americans.

Ukrainians are not Russian, that's why they are fighting against Russians.

Crimea is not enough until NATO threat is annihilated.

Good luck with that.

Russians can't be safe when NATO proxies commit genocide of Russians in Ukraine and in Baltic states.

Plain lie. Unless you are describing Russian military deaths?

Maybe we'll be sorry, but if you retaliate - more than 90% of you will be dead in less than one year.

Do the math. If Russia attacks, the only thing guaranteed is that China would own all of Russia.
No more "Russia", just a very big China.