Trump ultimatum: Open Hormuz in 48-hours or your powerplants will be destroyed. (Poll)

Do you support Trump's ultimatum? (Open Hormuz or we destroy your powreplants)

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 37.0%
  • No

    Votes: 34 63.0%

  • Total voters
    54
It is a FACT that Russia invaded Ukraine.
It is the FACT that NATO had expanded eastward, create a threat to Russia and even commited coup de grace in Ukraine and started murders of Russians.

There is no "mindset", just a simple fact that Putin needs to end the invasion of Ukraine, or the stupid costly war will continue.
The simplest fact that you should roll back or you'll be annihilated.

Ukrainians are not Russian, that's why they are fighting against Russians.
Ukrainians are Russians, just some of them are transgenders pretending to be something they are not.

Do the math.
Many smarter guys already did all those calculations.

If Russia attacks, the only thing guaranteed is that China would own all of Russia.
Of course no. It's just geographically impossible. Say nothing about Chinese mentality. They are nice guys, but they are too civilised to be good soldiers. Russia will be able to conquer China even after annihilation of the USA, but that's the thing we shouldn't do because of losing our own identity. Which happened with all previous Northern Barbarians who conqured China.
No more "Russia", just a very big China.
More likely something like Golden Horde. Not the worst outcome.
 
It is the FACT that NATO had expanded eastward, create a threat to Russia and even commited coup de grace in Ukraine and started murders of Russians.
NATO expanded because those countries begged to join it, because of Russian aggression.

You are a programmed mouthpiece of Russian state media, and every word out of your mouth is hot, steaming garbage.
 
Most Americans increasingly disapprove of Trump and his "Little Excursion," as well as regards other significant issue polled:

Fortunately. most Republicans kowtowing to Trump has resulted in Democrats having a consistent generic ballot advantage for November:
Most Americans aren’t Leftist Dumbocrat freaks like you. We’ve seen the disaster lunatics like you are capable of, during the fours years of the Biden presidency when the Left had control.
 
Trump is helping Russia, and Russia is helping Iran, so there wont be any collapse.
Trump is helping Russia? Ha ha ha. DumbPhuck! In the short time Trump has been president, he has taken out all of Russias allies, Syria’s Assad, Venezuela’s Maduro who was helping Russia skirt the sanctions, and now Iran. Nobody is left. In essence he’s destroyed Russia and China’s circle of influence and axis of evil.
 
It is the FACT that NATO had expanded eastward,
True. Free countries can join NATO
created a threat to Russia and even committed coup de grace in Ukraine
False. NATO is no threat to Russia, unless Russia attacks first
and started murders of Russians.
False.
The simplest fact is that you should roll back or you'll be annihilated.
False. Russia has no power over NATO countries. Learn where you borders are.
Ukrainians are Russians, just some of them are transgenders pretending to be something they are not.
Not funny. Too many young men are dying because Putin doesn't understand where his boundaries are.
Of course not. It's just geographically impossible. Say nothing about Chinese mentality. They are nice guys, but they are too civilised to be good soldiers. Russia will be able to conquer China even after annihilation of the USA, but that's the thing we shouldn't do because of losing our own identity. Which happened with all previous Northern Barbarians who conquered China.
More likely something like Golden Horde. Not the worst outcome.
If you look at Russia's religions and culture, Russia aligns more with NATO countries than with China and North Korea.
After Putin retires, and Russia becomes less aggressive, maybe Russia could do business with NATO countries and prosper instead of being sanctioned and having a lower standard of living?

Cultural exchange? Russia gets what?
 
NATO expanded because those countries begged to join it, because of Russian aggression.
Of course those little evil Nazies begged you because they did understand that Russia has pretty good reasons to punish them. It doesn't matter why did you came on the Russian territory - because you love Nazies or because you hate Russians. You came on our territory and now you have pretty short list of options:
1) Attack Russia first and suffer terrible (but, may be, survivable) damage.
2) Be attacked by Russia and suffer virtual annihilation.
3) Roll back to Elbe and, likely, further.
You are a programmed mouthpiece of Russian state media, and every word out of your mouth is hot, steaming garbage.
Wow. And who are you, then?
 
True. Free countries can join NATO
Only if NATO wants more problems.
False. NATO is no threat to Russia, unless Russia attacks first
Of course it is.
False.

False. Russia has no power over NATO countries. Learn where you borders are.
Of course we have power over NATO. In the lawless world created by America, might is right. And Russia is stronger than NATO.

Not funny. Too many young men are dying because Putin doesn't understand where his boundaries are.
Billions are going to die soon, because NATO clowns don't understand what is right and what is wrong.

If you look at Russia's religions and culture, Russia aligns more with NATO countries than with China and North Korea.
It depends. Both European suit and Japanese kimono are just outfits, we can easily change it. Russian true nature is equally distant from Chinese, European and American nature.
Talking about religion, most of Russian Orthodox Cristians see eastern Pagans, Muslims and Atheists as "non-Christians" (potential Orthodox Christians or partners) and certain cults in Roman Catholic church and among Protestants as "anti-Christians/Satanists" (open enemies of the God and Humanity).

After Putin retires, and Russia becomes less aggressive, maybe Russia could do business with NATO countries and prosper instead of being sanctioned and having a lower standard of living?
Only after you return to us what is rightfully ours and pay for all the problems you had caused.

Cultural exchange? Russia gets what?

Russia gets everything.
 
Of course we have power over NATO. In the lawless world created by America, might is right. And Russia is stronger than NATO.
Billions are going to die soon, because NATO clowns don't understand what is right and what is wrong.
"soon"? There is no "soon". Just more "bluster".
It depends. Both European suit and Japanese kimono are just outfits, we can easily change it. Russian true nature is equally distant from Chinese, European and American nature.
Talking about religion, most of Russian Orthodox Christians see eastern Pagans, Muslims and Atheists as "non-Christians" (potential Orthodox Christians or partners) and certain cults in Roman Catholic church and among Protestants as "anti-Christians/Satanists" (open enemies of the God and Humanity).
You left out Jews. Are Jews unimportant in Russia? No effect on culture like here in the US?
Only after you return to us what is rightfully ours and pay for all the problems you had caused.
Russia invaded Ukraine. If anyone owes reparations its that Russia owes Ukraine.
 
You left out Jews. Are Jews unimportant in Russia? No effect on culture like here in the US?
It's complicated. Secular Jews are important and fruitful part of Russian society. Most of religious Jews are seen as fancy but harmless guys. But Zionist, those who want to build Israel, rebuild the Third Temple and summon anti-christ in our world are seen by Orthodox Church as enemies of God and Humanity.

Russia invaded Ukraine. If anyone owes reparations its that Russia owes Ukraine.
No. Loser is to pay. And we are not going to lose.
 
It's complicated. Secular Jews are important and fruitful part of Russian society. Most of religious Jews are seen as fancy but harmless guys. But Zionist, those who want to build Israel, rebuild the Third Temple and summon anti-christ in our world are seen by Orthodox Church as enemies of God and Humanity.
I'm more of a Nostradamus reader than an Old Testament reader.
Moses lived about 1400 BC, the Torah is the first 5 books of the old testament, 3426 years ago. Ancient history.
Nostradamus has a pretty good accuracy rating compared to the Old Testament.
As for rebuilding the 3rd Temple and the anti-Christ and End-Times...Nostradamus is easier.

Good discussion Zeb.
 
So you’re rooting for the deaths of tens of millions of the innocent people you claim to be helping

That’s interesting
I am not rooting for some idiot ( trump ) who starts something he hasn't even begun to plan out. But I'm not rooting for the Iranian government either. I'm rooting for the American people and secondly the Iranian people. May something good and long lasting come out of this mess.
 
I am not rooting for some idiot ( trump ) who starts something he hasn't even begun to plan out. Bit I'm not rooting for the Iranian government either. If anything I'm rooting for the American people and secondly the Iranian people.

Best thing for the American people is for all American forces to leave now
 
Best thing for the American people is for all American forces to leave now
I disagree that would not lead to regime change and it would embolden the Iranians to support even more terrorism. Like or not we are stuck there for a while. Let's hope trump gets armaments up quickly because the Iranian leadership won't disappear until we bomb infrastructure and make life miserable for all of them like Russia is trying to do in the Ukraine. The important difference is 80% of the Iranian people do not support their own government. It will fall sooner if they endure some more hardship. Hopefully trump has a plan to resupply the armaments and is using these delays wisely. I know the Iranian government is.
 
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Best thing for the American people is for all American forces to leave now
Why? So the pissed off regime can continue to oppress their own people, rebuild their arsenal and we can do it all again in a few more years?
 
Why? Why not finish what we started?
It's still a gamble. trump is not a skilled tactician. And it looks like he's already badly bungled the effort.That's what happens when you have a leader that works on whims , not reason. But I agree. The deed is largely done , let's get armaments up to snuff and bomb the hell out of their infrastructure. If you put the nation in the dark it won't take much time for the people to revolt against their authoritarian government. After that we should take care of our own aurhoritarian problem child.
 
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