Trump ultimatum: Open Hormuz in 48-hours or your powerplants will be destroyed. (Poll)

[rightwinger]

Nope, Trump doesn’t want to do it because it will cause pain on the people of Iran, who are overwhelmingly on our and Israel’s side now.

Surprising to see Trump show some humanity

 

[Roudy]

Maybe you could hookup with her.

Take your lies and fake bullshit and stick it up your Gaza, freak, the Iranian people are on the U.S. and Israel’s side and that’s what counts. Actually they hate the Palestinians who have received billions of stolen Iranian wealth and for the last few decades were imported by the regime to kill Iranian protesters, and they especially hate you pro Pali scumbags.

 

[Roudy]

What's your "News" Source? CNN, Jerusalem Times, FOX, or NY Times? (All basically owned by the same people who dictate what you're allowed to hear).

What’s yours? KKK Times, Hamas Daily, White Neo Nazi Moron News, or Mullah Lovers Inquirer?

 

[schmidlap]

I didn’t see you Leftards eating your soiled underwear when oil hit 150 a barrel which is about 60 more than it is today, six months into Biden the walking corpse’s presidency.

Chronic diversions to personages of yesteryear only reveal an avoidance of the present plight.

Trump calls Iran war 'a little excursion' that will end 'soon' ​

March 9, 2026​

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Trump claims Iran is 'begging' for deal​

How long will it take the wobbly warlord to extricate the U.S. from his disastrous Rambles with Bibi?

 

[Roudy]

Chronic diversions to personages of yesteryear only reveal an avoidance of the present plight.

Trump calls Iran war 'a little excursion' that will end 'soon' ​

March 9, 2026​

​

Trump claims Iran is 'begging' for deal​

How long will it take the wobbly warlord to extricate the U.S. from his disastrous Rambles with Bibi?

Yes, and? The present plight being victory despite your rooting for America’s defeat and failure, we have kicked their asses, eliminated their leadership, are roaming freely in the air and have the people totally on our side. Seems like you guys are the ones in denial and having a hissy fit.

 

[Roudy]

Surprising to see Trump show some humanity

And you’re too stupid to realize this is all a head fake.

 

[Roudy]

If they could do that, they would have long ago

Don’t expect this hate America KKK moron to actually know these things.

 

[SaxonJackson]

You can avail yourself to search on bing or google and select any source you trust...
This is a pdf from the State Department

Technical Difficulties

Hahaha. "The State Department." Got it!

 

[schmidlap]

Yes, and? The present plight being victory despite your rooting for America’s defeat and failure, we have kicked their asses, eliminated their leadership, are roaming freely in the air and have the people totally on our side. Seems like you guys are the ones in denial and having a hissy fit.

Your lashing out irrationally and lying about me "rooting for America’s defeat and failure" does not address Trump's ongoing fiasco, and its global consequences.

Most Americans oppose military action in Iran, give Trump negative ratings on the economy​

When will your increasingly unpopular messiah extricate the U.S. from his mess?

 

[Zavulon]

I know that for a conventional war the US would protect the NATO members as we always have.
But the question of a nuclear war between Russia and the EU is a much tougher calculation.

There is no such thing as "conventional large-scale (or even "regional") war". And anyway, there is already nuclear dimension in the current conflict.
Next step is resume of nuclear testing and, hghly likely, it will happen this year.

See there you go with ancient history again.

"Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.", as they say.

The current EU countries are not aggressive.

Of course they are aggressive. They hired Ukrainians and Baltics to attack Russians. Tomorrow they will go in battle by themselves. They just don't have another option.

We had to kick their asses to get them to boost military spending. I don't evaluate how much lives are worth. I evaluate their souls, you can look at a country and see their art, their standard of living, their cities' architecture, and their universities and see what kind of soul they have. When I look at Iran I see tunnels, missiles, nuclear weapons programs, ICBMs, killing peaceful protesters, hanging young wrestlers, threatening female soccer players, nothing but hate and violence.

It's not what you are looking by yourself. It's what media show you. When I, as a young soldier, started to study American culture, it was very specific view - poisons, chemical weapons, incendiarity weapons, nuclear weapons, biological weapons and their delivery systems, tortures, interrogations, covert operations, tactical and strategic planning, etc... And only later I understood that "real" Americans, Frenches and Japanese are not just "paper targets", they are human beings.

We don't take countries like Russia does.

Of course you do. Look at Hawai, Republic of Texas and others.

Look at Iraq. We gave Iraqis their freedom from Saddam and his insane and sadistic sons.

You just turned the country in chaos and killed much more Arabs than Saddam and all his relatives together.

That wasn't us, that was Israel.

It was US-lead coalition (Epstain Coalition). And you are responsible for it. Even if Trump decided that now Bibi makes all decisions - it's still Trump's decision.

Ok, lets leave well enough alone. No one wins a nuclear war.

We are going to win it. Even in your scenario with 90 mln killed, it's definitely not a Doomsday.

 

[kyzr]

There is no such thing as "conventional large-scale (or even "regional") war". And anyway, there is already nuclear dimension in the current conflict. Next step is resume of nuclear testing and, highly likely, it will happen this year.
Of course the EU countries are aggressive. They hired Ukrainians and Baltics to attack Russians. Tomorrow they will go in battle by themselves. They just don't have another option.

The EU did not "hire" Ukrainians" to attack Russians, that is propaganda.
Russia invaded Ukraine, and the EU helped Ukrainians defend themselves from Russia's invasion.

It's not what you are looking by yourself. It's what media show you. When I, as a young soldier, started to study American culture, it was very specific view - poisons, chemical weapons, incendiary weapons, nuclear weapons, biological weapons and their delivery systems, tortures, interrogations, covert operations, tactical and strategic planning, etc... And only later I understood that "real" Americans, French and Japanese are not just "paper targets", they are human beings.

So you were exposed to Russian propaganda, and now you spread it?
Agreed that a nuclear war kills millions of human beings, a lose-lose scenario.

Of course you do. Look at Hawaii, Republic of Texas and others.
You just turned Iraq into chaos and killed many more Arabs than Saddam and all his relatives together.

Stay in the recent past, not ancient history. We invaded Iraq and gave them their country back. Iraq is prospering.

Killing negotiators was US-lead coalition (Epstein Coalition). And you are responsible for it. Even if Trump decided that now Bibi makes all decisions - it's still Trump's decision.

Plain lie.

We are going to win it. Even in your scenario with 90 mln killed, it's definitely not a Doomsday.

No one wins a nuclear war.

 

[Churchill]

Now we're getting somewhere:

Iran threatens to retaliate against Gulf energy and water after Trump ultimatum

The risks of worsening regional conflict, highlighted by an Iranian threat to hit Gulf states' desalination plants, are especially acute for the desert countries whose populations and economies depend on the water facilities to survive.

www.reuters.com

Trump, Iran threaten power, energy targets as war escalates​

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-israel-iran-war-trump-threatens-to-obliterate-iran-power-plants-if-strait-of-hormuz-doesnt-open-in-48-hours-11249196

'Open Hormuz Or Will Destroy Power Plants': Trump Warns Iran, Tehran Responds​

Trump gives Iran 48-hour ultimatum to reopen Strait of Hormuz or face strikes on power plants

Trump warns Iran it has 48 hours to fully reopen the Strait of Hormuz or the U.S. will strike and obliterate its power plants, starting with the largest.

www.foxnews.com

I fully support this ultimatum. Get that oil moving!!

Your thread is titled

Trump ultimatum: Open Hormuz in 48-hours or your powerplants will be destroyed.

But 128 hours have now elapsed and Iran's power plants are not destroyed.

 

[kyzr]

Your thread is titled

Trump ultimatum: Open Hormuz in 48-hours or your powerplants will be destroyed.

But 128 hours have now elapsed and Iran's power plants are not destroyed.

Trump is "negotiating".

If you destroy the powerplants you have no leverage. Watch how it plays out.

 

[Churchill]

Trump is "negotiating".

Good, you put that in quotation marks.

If you destroy the powerplants you have no leverage. Watch how it plays out.

It will kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people, and its a war crime. no refrigeration, no petrol stations, no air conditioning, no desalination plants can work, so no drinking water...

It would be a huge crime against humanity, huge.

Finally Iran has said flat out it will obliterate infrastructure in the Gulf without hesitation if any country attacks Iran's infrastructure.

A wise leader would cease attacking Iran and force Israel to cease too. That is the first move that should be made, trump is failing to grasp that and wants the Iranians to make the first concessionary steps and that is silly, they will not because they are being bombed and will not simply stop and wait while Israel (using US supplied weapons) continues to bomb them.

 

[Muhammed]

Your thread is titled

Trump ultimatum: Open Hormuz in 48-hours or your powerplants will be destroyed.

But 128 hours have now elapsed and Iran's power plants are not destroyed.

Maybe he's bluffing.

But then again, I thought he was bluffing when he said he was going to go get Maduro too.

 

[kyzr]

Good, you put that in quotation marks.
It will kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people, and its a war crime. no refrigeration, no petrol stations, no air conditioning, no desalination plants can work, so no drinking water...It would be a huge crime against humanity, huge.

Sounds bad. Maybe they should open Hormuz or surrender to avoid that happening?

Finally Iran has said flat out it will obliterate infrastructure in the Gulf without hesitation if any country attacks Iran's infrastructure.

LOL. Seriously? With what? They are just about out of bullets. Not worried.

 

[Churchill]

Sounds bad. Maybe they should open Hormuz or surrender to avoid that?

Surrender? You don't know what the terms are, I can guess because I've studied these kinds of conflicts before.

LOL. Seriously? With what? They are just about out of bullets. Not worried.

Not according to the military experts I've listened to, one example

 

[kyzr]

Surrender? You don't know what the terms are, I can guess because I've studied these kinds of conflicts before.

Lets start with regime change, no nukes, no terrorism, and go from there, and we won't destroy any powerplants.

Not according to the military experts I've listened to.

Ok, we'll see. If we destroy their powerplants offensive strikes won't be at the top of their agenda.

 

[Churchill]

Lets start with regime change, no nukes, no terrorism, and go from there, and we won't destroy any powerplants.

Ok, we'll see. If we destroy their powerplants offensive strikes won't be at the top of their agenda.

If the US does that the Iranian public are not going to "overthrow" their government, there are in fact backing it hugely if you care to check.

So there'll be no regime change.

Second Iran only has to keep the strait closed, that's easily within their reach, there is simply no way the US can prevent Iran from keeping the strait closed.

Third Iran has a huge number of missiles and drones, it used those at a high rate initially to drain Israel's and Gulf States defence missiles (1 drone costs 40 K a defence missile costs 2 million).

Iran doesn't need to "win" it cannot win, it knows that, but it can continue to put huge pressure on the US indirectly through the economic impacts. It wants this to stop and it can be stopped now by the US and accept the situation or it can continue because of trump's ego and his subservience to Israel and costs and consequences and deaths continue.

Look at Russia/Ukraine, it was the standard view when that war started that Russia would win that in a few weeks, its still raging.

Do you really believe that thousands of US soldiers lives is a price worth paying for Israel's extremist ideology?

This is sheer idiocy, tell me what exact benefit are American people getting from this circus? nothing, they are less safe now because there are Iranians willing to resort to terrorism because their families have been blown to pieces.

Gas is costing more, farmers must pay more for fertilizer, 13 soldiers have died, hundreds are injured, lost limbs, blinded etc and US bases damaged, tourism to the Gulf has stopped.

The whole thing has ZERO benefit for Americans.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Like in Japan.

Oh wait...

Uh, hey professor, do you remember how that was accomplished?

Think. Then post.

In that order.