Trump Stated 6 days ago "when the Iran war ends, Oil and gasoline prices will come crashing down!" One more lie, or simply misinformed incompetency?

[rightwinger]

I was paying $2.69 a gallon before the TRUMP War

When will gas go back to that?

 

[Man With A Plan]

They agreed to open the strait which was already open before the war.

They agreed to not pursue nuclear weapons which is exactly what they always said.

If they’re so desperate, why do they get so much money?

If they’re so desperate, why are they keeping uranium enrichment?

If they’re so desperate, why do they get a ballistic missile program?

They've used the threat of closing the Straight for the last 40 years. They called it "their" territory!
They've never agreed to give up their nuclear ambitions.
They don't get any money until they behave themselves...it's money coming from their wealthy neighbors who want them to stop acting like the skunk at the church social and if you read how that program is to be administered...it's the US that will sign off on where the money is going even though they will not be contributing to that fund!
They're giving up their uranium. If they don't...sanctions don't get lifted...they don't get their money.
As for their ballistic missile program? That would be addressed in the final agreement. Iran has no need for a ballistic missile except to threaten the west. I would view any attempt to restart that program as a violation of the agreement.

Again...I have little doubt that the Iranians will break this agreement. I think they will sell some oil...get some revenue coming in...and then revert to being the same shit heads they've been for the past four decades. I think Trump knows they'll do it. I think he's going to lower the price of oil...lower the price of goods...have our economy crushing it by the Fall going into the mid terms and reap the benefits of that economy by retaining the House and the Senate. If the Iranian regime wants to FAFO in 2017 Trump can finish what he started with another blockade only this one won't be less than four weeks...it will go on for months!

Tump is playing chess and the Iranians are playing checkers.

 

[Man With A Plan]

It wasn’t OUR money.

It was money that we took from the Shah to buy weapons...before the Islamic Republic fomented revolution. It's debatable whether that money was theirs or ours. With all of the death and destruction that Iran has caused? I think I could make a good case that they owed the US far more than that sum.

 

[Marener]

They've used the threat of closing the Straight for the last 40 years. They called it "their" territory!

And they’ll use the threat again if it suits them. Despite 40 years of their threat, traffic flowed freely until Trump started a war. Returning to the previous status quo is not a win.

They've never agreed to give up their nuclear ambitions.

They did under the JCPOA.

They don't get any money until they behave themselves...it's money coming from their wealthy neighbors who want them to stop acting like the skunk at the church social and if you read how that program is to be administered...it's the US that will sign off on where the money is going even though they will not be contributing to that fund!

So Trump is buying them off.

They're giving up their uranium. If they don't...sanctions don't get lifted...they don't get their money.

They gave up their uranium under the JCPOA. Trump has said they can have low enriched uranium program.

As for their ballistic missile program? That would be addressed in the final agreement. Iran has no need for a ballistic missile except to threaten the west. I would view any attempt to restart that program as a violation of the agreement.

No one cares what you consider a violation, because Trump says they can have a ballistic missile program and nothing in the deal stops them.

Again...I have little doubt that the Iranians will break this agreement. I think they will sell some oil...get some revenue coming in...and then revert to being the same shit heads they've been for the past four decades. I think Trump knows they'll do it. I think he's going to lower the price of oil...lower the price of goods...have our economy crushing it by the Fall going into the mid terms and reap the benefits of that economy by retaining the House and the Senate.

So Trump is giving in because the war was hurting the economy and Americans.

Which is exactly why he had to make such a weak deal.

If the Iranian regime wants to FAFO in 2017 Trump can finish what he started with another blockade only this one won't be less than four weeks...it will go on for months!

Which will hurt Americans even more.

Tump is playing chess and the Iranians are playing checkers.

Sure dude.

 

[Marener]

It was money that we took from the Shah to buy weapons...before the Islamic Republic fomented revolution. It's debatable whether that money was theirs or ours. With all of the death and destruction that Iran has caused? I think I could make a good case that they owed the US far more than that sum.

So again, the money didn’t come from us.

 

[Man With A Plan]

And they’ll use the threat again if it suits them. Despite 40 years of their threat, traffic flowed freely until Trump started a war. Returning to the previous status quo is not a win.

They did under the JCPOA.

So Trump is buying them off.

They gave up their uranium under the JCPOA. Trump has said they can have low enriched uranium program.

No one cares what you consider a violation, because Trump says they can have a ballistic missile program and nothing in the deal stops them.

So Trump is giving in because the war was hurting the economy and Americans.

Which is exactly why he had to make such a weak deal.

Which will hurt Americans even more.

Sure dude.

No, they actually won't! Because for the first time in 40 years somebody figured out how to hurt THEM worse than they can hurt the rest of us! That somebody is Donald Trump. His blockade has flipped the switch. Now Iran knows that if they shut down the Straight...Trump will shut down their economy with a blockade. It's checkmate and they know it.

 

[Man With A Plan]

So again, the money didn’t come from us.

No it came from the former Republic of Iran. With the shit that the present Islamic Republic has been pulling I would have told them to go pound sand before I ever gave that money back to them. I'd give it to Reza Pahlavi instead and fund HIS campaign to take back Iran!

 

[TemplarKormac]

I was paying $2.69 a gallon before the TRUMP War

When will gas go back to that?

When presidents can directly control the price of gas?

 

[rightwinger]

When presidents can directly control the price of gas?

Trump sure did when he attacked Iran
Choked off 20 percent of the worlds oil

 

[Marener]

No, they actually won't! Because for the first time in 40 years somebody figured out how to hurt THEM worse than they can hurt the rest of us! That somebody is Donald Trump. His blockade has flipped the switch. Now Iran knows that if they shut down the Straight...Trump will shut down their economy with a blockade. It's checkmate and they know it.

We always knew how to hurt them. Christ, you think Trump invented bombing people?

You already said that Trump had to give up the blockade because it was hurting our economy. Iran knows that.

 

[Marener]

No it came from the former Republic of Iran. With the shit that the present Islamic Republic has been pulling I would have told them to go pound sand before I ever gave that money back to them. I'd give it to Reza Pahlavi instead and fund HIS campaign to take back Iran!

Okay, that’s cool. You said it was our money, and that was a lie.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Gas is down significantly around here.

 

[frigidweirdo]

They've used the threat of closing the Straight for the last 40 years. They called it "their" territory!
They've never agreed to give up their nuclear ambitions.
They don't get any money until they behave themselves...it's money coming from their wealthy neighbors who want them to stop acting like the skunk at the church social and if you read how that program is to be administered...it's the US that will sign off on where the money is going even though they will not be contributing to that fund!
They're giving up their uranium. If they don't...sanctions don't get lifted...they don't get their money.
As for their ballistic missile program? That would be addressed in the final agreement. Iran has no need for a ballistic missile except to threaten the west. I would view any attempt to restart that program as a violation of the agreement.

Again...I have little doubt that the Iranians will break this agreement. I think they will sell some oil...get some revenue coming in...and then revert to being the same shit heads they've been for the past four decades. I think Trump knows they'll do it. I think he's going to lower the price of oil...lower the price of goods...have our economy crushing it by the Fall going into the mid terms and reap the benefits of that economy by retaining the House and the Senate. If the Iranian regime wants to FAFO in 2017 Trump can finish what he started with another blockade only this one won't be less than four weeks...it will go on for months!

Tump is playing chess and the Iranians are playing checkers.

The US has, in the past, taken the whole of the Americas as its own. Iran is claiming a bit of water that's really, really close to their land.

 

[Paperplate 2]

6 days ago, Trump stated:



Here is the reality of the issue:

Even if the Iran war ended today, US fuel prices aren’t likely to normalize this year​

Sorry, US drivers, but don’t expect pump prices to return to prewar levels any time soon, even if the US and Iran agree to a lasting peace deal tomorrow.

As the war with Iran enters its third month, drivers have become infuriated by rising gas prices – and inflation – and Donald Trump is facing a historic backlash in the polls. The president promised recently that relief will be swift once the war ends. “I see it going down very substantially when this is over, I think very rapidly too, at levels that you’ve never seen,” he said.

Experts say it’s not that simple. As the saying goes, gas prices shoot up like a rocket and come down like a feather.

Should peace be declared, prices could fall on a kneejerk move, but it will take several months – maybe years – for prices to retreat to previous levels of about $3 a gallon nationally because checking potentially damaged energy infrastructure in the Middle East and unsnarling supply chains takes time, say energy experts.

Just in case you doubt that article, here are other links that say the same thing:

Here's Why Oil Prices May Remain High Even If the Iran War Ends​

Five reasons oil prices won't snap back from Iran war

Trump said they would even go lower than they were before (below $1.83) all of this started:



Is this a bald-faced lie or simply a lack of knowledge (incompetence)?

Trump's promise that we would have affordability this year, has gone out the window

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You have NO definitionof 'affordability'! People with low job skills, no education, no work ethic, criminal histories, drug additions will almost never think things are affordable! To get paid the prevailing wage to work at a fast food place and think that somehow 'entitles' you to be able to buy a BMW and live in a million dollar home and take vacations is idiocy! Affordability is relative to salaries! If you want to be able to 'afford' something, work harder! 'Affordability' has been relative for centuries. Some think it is some sort of 'right' and not opportunity!

 

[Man With A Plan]

We always knew how to hurt them. Christ, you think Trump invented bombing people?

You already said that Trump had to give up the blockade because it was hurting our economy. Iran knows that.

Who's economy did the blockade hurt the most, Marener? Our gas prices went to a little more than $4 a gallon, which was a minor hardship but our economy was still strong. Iran's economy literally cratered. We always knew how to hurt them? You can't credit Trump for anything...can you? We've spent decades trying to curb Iran's excesses with sanctions and those sanctions have always failed to hurt them enough to get them to stop. Trump's blockade in a little more than 30 days had them asking for a deal. Now we know exactly how to crush their economy and they know that we know. It's a new ball game and the US is in control.

 

[Paperplate 2]

You know it's true. Trump is far more incompetent than Obama.

NO NO NO NO NO NO.

You quoted almost all the character traits of Democrat leaders. Tks.

 

[Paperplate 2]

OF course it is a lie.

What is the national average price today?? Who is the stupid one?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Okay, that’s cool. You said it was our money, and that was a lie.

I've never said it was our money. Who's money it was has been disputed for literally four decades! Barry used it as a ransom. A way to get around the US's policy not to bargain with terrorists. He tried to appease the Mullahs and the IRGC and got very little in return except for an agreement that Iran immediately ignored.

 

[Paperplate 2]

Tell it to Europeans who will be running out of oil by the end of July thanks to Trump.

Your Democrat Chrystal ball has shattered! Yep, Europe is dying! No oil, $5 a gallon national averge here, wowl

 

[Marener]

Who's economy did the blockade hurt the most, Marener? Our gas prices went to a little more than $4 a gallon, which was a minor hardship but our economy was still strong. Iran's economy literally cratered. We always knew how to hurt them? You can't credit Trump for anything...can you? We've spent decades trying to curb Iran's excesses with sanctions and those sanctions have always failed to hurt them enough to get them to stop. Trump's blockade in a little more than 30 days had them asking for a deal. Now we know exactly how to crush their economy and they know that we know. It's a new ball game and the US is in control.

Doesn’t matter whose it hurt more, it matters who could put up with it more.

Trump couldn’t.