JakeStarkey
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"to sit on their asses all day long in rent free homes" is a lie if it is a description of the US military.
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We have the bases and all of the equipment and the people. In their countries. At our expense. We are easily covering 70% of NATO’s security costs.
Yes, and we need to close them out and bring our soldiers back to our own borders.
The military is NOT a border patrol! Come on man! How many times does this have to be explained?
The military is NOT an empire building apparatus either nor does it exist to fight everyone else's wars. World War II is over. The Cold War is over. Our military's job is to defend OUR nation, not everyone else's. In case you didn't notice we have a $22 trillion debt. We can't afford this largess anymore.
FACT CHECK: Trump's Claims On NATO Spending
No, US does not pay for 70 or 90 percent of NATO
Obama applauds halt to decline in NATO spending
How NATO is funded and who pays what
We all saw Trump say the US pays 90% of what goes to NATO during this trip to Europe. In fact he said it more than once.
So what does the US actually pay?
22%
Yep, 22%, not 90%.
And it was back in 2014 that Obama demanded NATO paid more. And after the Russian invasion of the Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea, they got on the ball. They scheduled the increases into their economy. and we saw the amount they pay increasing a couple of years ago. Before Trump took office.
So the upcoming increases were negotiated by Obama, not Trump.
It's all right there. Easy to look up. VERY recent history. Believe what you want, but those are the facts.
"to sit on their asses all day long in rent free homes" is a lie if it is a description of the US military.
You mean the southern red neck Trump base."to sit on their asses all day long in rent free homes" is a lie if it is a description of the US military.
It's a description of the Democrat base.
/----/ Even left wing CNN says different:FACT CHECK: Trump's Claims On NATO Spending
No, US does not pay for 70 or 90 percent of NATO
Obama applauds halt to decline in NATO spending
How NATO is funded and who pays what
We all saw Trump say the US pays 90% of what goes to NATO during this trip to Europe. In fact he said it more than once.
So what does the US actually pay?
22%
Yep, 22%, not 90%.
And it was back in 2014 that Obama demanded NATO paid more. And after the Russian invasion of the Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea, they got on the ball. They scheduled the increases into their economy. and we saw the amount they pay increasing a couple of years ago. Before Trump took office.
So the upcoming increases were negotiated by Obama, not Trump.
It's all right there. Easy to look up. VERY recent history. Believe what you want, but those are the facts.
/----/ Even left wing CNN says different:FACT CHECK: Trump's Claims On NATO Spending
No, US does not pay for 70 or 90 percent of NATO
Obama applauds halt to decline in NATO spending
How NATO is funded and who pays what
We all saw Trump say the US pays 90% of what goes to NATO during this trip to Europe. In fact he said it more than once.
So what does the US actually pay?
22%
Yep, 22%, not 90%.
And it was back in 2014 that Obama demanded NATO paid more. And after the Russian invasion of the Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea, they got on the ball. They scheduled the increases into their economy. and we saw the amount they pay increasing a couple of years ago. Before Trump took office.
So the upcoming increases were negotiated by Obama, not Trump.
It's all right there. Easy to look up. VERY recent history. Believe what you want, but those are the facts.
These NATO countries are not spending their fair share on defense
New spending data released on Monday show the U.S. shells out far more money on defense than any other nation on the planet.
According to NATO statistics, the U.S. spent an estimated $650 billion on defense last year. That's more than double the amount all the other 27 NATO countries spent between them, even though their combined GDP tops that of the U.S.
Goes to show we are spending far too much of our GDP on military expenses that we don't need.
He wants NATO to pick up spending, so the US can spend even more.
I'm embarrassed to have to explain this. It's so obvious and and so simple, but I will anyway. I know it won't "stick", but I'll give it a go anyway.FACT CHECK: Trump's Claims On NATO Spending
No, US does not pay for 70 or 90 percent of NATO
Obama applauds halt to decline in NATO spending
How NATO is funded and who pays what
We all saw Trump say the US pays 90% of what goes to NATO during this trip to Europe. In fact he said it more than once.
So what does the US actually pay?
22%
Yep, 22%, not 90%.
And it was back in 2014 that Obama demanded NATO paid more. And after the Russian invasion of the Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea, they got on the ball. They scheduled the increases into their economy. and we saw the amount they pay increasing a couple of years ago. Before Trump took office.
So the upcoming increases were negotiated by Obama, not Trump.
It's all right there. Easy to look up. VERY recent history. Believe what you want, but those are the facts.
Remind us if NATO could take on the Minnesota national gaurd?
I doubt it.
If NATO pays so much where are their aircraft carriers? Subs???
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We have the bases and all of the equipment and the people. In their countries. At our expense. We are easily covering 70% of NATO’s security costs.
Yes, and we need to close them out and bring our soldiers back to our own borders.
The military is NOT a border patrol! Come on man! How many times does this have to be explained?
The military is NOT an empire building apparatus either nor does it exist to fight everyone else's wars. World War II is over. The Cold War is over. Our military's job is to defend OUR nation, not everyone else's. In case you didn't notice we have a $22 trillion debt. We can't afford this largess anymore.
So let's stop paying people to sit on their asses all day long in rent free homes, eating free food, getting free medical care
I'm embarrassed to have to explain this. It's so obvious and and so simple, but I will anyway. I know it won't "stick", but I'll give it a go anyway.
Do you see the light blue. That's Canada, the US and the rest of the NATO countries. Who threatens NATO? The darker blue off to the right. That's Russia. Sorry for being sarcastic, but where is the ocean between NATO and Russia? See what I mean?
/----/ Even left wing CNN says different:FACT CHECK: Trump's Claims On NATO Spending
No, US does not pay for 70 or 90 percent of NATO
Obama applauds halt to decline in NATO spending
How NATO is funded and who pays what
We all saw Trump say the US pays 90% of what goes to NATO during this trip to Europe. In fact he said it more than once.
So what does the US actually pay?
22%
Yep, 22%, not 90%.
And it was back in 2014 that Obama demanded NATO paid more. And after the Russian invasion of the Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea, they got on the ball. They scheduled the increases into their economy. and we saw the amount they pay increasing a couple of years ago. Before Trump took office.
So the upcoming increases were negotiated by Obama, not Trump.
It's all right there. Easy to look up. VERY recent history. Believe what you want, but those are the facts.
These NATO countries are not spending their fair share on defense
New spending data released on Monday show the U.S. shells out far more money on defense than any other nation on the planet.
According to NATO statistics, the U.S. spent an estimated $650 billion on defense last year. That's more than double the amount all the other 27 NATO countries spent between them, even though their combined GDP tops that of the U.S.
The U.S. share is calculated on the basis of gross national income — the total domestic and foreign output claimed by residents of a country — and adjusted regularly. Currently that would be about 22 percent, compared to about 15 percent for Germany, 11 percent for France, 10 percent for the United Kingdom, 8 percent for Italy, 7 percent for Canada, and so forth.
I don’t care if it is .003% it is still too muchFACT CHECK: Trump's Claims On NATO Spending
No, US does not pay for 70 or 90 percent of NATO
Obama applauds halt to decline in NATO spending
How NATO is funded and who pays what
We all saw Trump say the US pays 90% of what goes to NATO during this trip to Europe. In fact he said it more than once.
So what does the US actually pay?
22%
Yep, 22%, not 90%.
And it was back in 2014 that Obama demanded NATO paid more. And after the Russian invasion of the Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea, they got on the ball. They scheduled the increases into their economy. and we saw the amount they pay increasing a couple of years ago. Before Trump took office.
So the upcoming increases were negotiated by Obama, not Trump.
It's all right there. Easy to look up. VERY recent history. Believe what you want, but those are the facts.