Trump is actually saving the country money stop whining about the jet.

[dudmuck]

Well it stands to reason that Air Force One needs a hot spare.
Yes that's probably pretty expensive. I have some questions too about emoluments here. However I highly recommend you wait another 48 hours to get the whole story because I think we're only getting one side that suits a narrative.

air force one is a callsign. It doesnt refer to a specific aircraft, so its whatever aircraft that is flying the president. This implies that there are plenty of backups.

 

[postman]

They still have to retrofit those anyway - again he is taking the plane with him.

It's not just the refit. They have to go over every cubic inch of the airframe for devices big and small, that could be there to listen or sabotage the aircraft.
Remember, the aircraft had been sitting at a public airport, unguarded.

 

[Godboy]

Doesn't matter.

WHO is making the decision to accept it?

NOT congress.

We get gifts from other nations ALL THE TIME. When is gmthe last time you saw Congress take a vote on foreign gifts?

Whats with you people? Why do you always demand that Trump be treated differently from everyone else?

 

[kyzr]

Why would Boeing be dragging it's feet on a government contract here ? ~S~

Boeing claims that the AF keeps moving the goal posts.
The latest delay is that all workers must have security clearances to work on installing the electronics packages.

 

[kyzr]

Why does a Presidential library need a Jet liner?
Just as part of a museum?

Yep. Just like Reagan has.

 

[Godboy]

Yep. Just like Reagan has.

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Kennedy has one too.

 

[justoffal]

Yep. Just like Reagan has.

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I don't like the idea.... Those buildings look like they're very expensive to maintain. Are they paid for from the taxpayer funds?

 

[justoffal]

Kennedy has one too.

A jet in his library? That must be where all the trannies we're hanging out until Trump fired them.

 

[WorldWatcher]

We get gifts from other nations ALL THE TIME. When is gmthe last time you saw Congress take a vote on foreign gifts?

Whats with you people? Why do you always demand that Trump be treated differently from everyone else?

When was the last time a foreign country that just week before announced that the President privately owned company was going to be involved with a $5.5 Billion development project and then that country turns around and wants to gift that President a $400 Million luxury jet that the President then planned on taking with him all under the guise of "Well it will be given to DOD and then the plan will to to the library for his personal use."?

WW

 

[postman]

We get gifts from other nations ALL THE TIME. When is gmthe last time you saw Congress take a vote on foreign gifts?

Whats with you people? Why do you always demand that Trump be treated differently from everyone else?

Actually gifts to the United States, come under the control of the National Archives. They take control or possession of gifts given to the US or to the president.

National Archives and Records Administration: www.archives.gov

Tokens and Treasures exhibit features gifts to U.S. presidents by American citizens and foreign heads of states.

www.archives.gov

As the highest representative of the people and government, the President accepts gifts on behalf of the United States of America. The phenomenon, as old as the Presidency itself, grows with each administration: Today a President may receive 15,000 gifts a year. They come from every state in the nation and every country in the world. Gifts from foreign leaders continue a rich diplomatic tradition of exchange between heads of state; those from citizens, both Americans and others, symbolize an inherently democratic exercise - ordinary people freely addressing, in every manner and form, the President of the United States.

The National Archives takes possession.
Like they tried to do with Trumps presidential papers (especially the classified ones) that Trump refused to give up.

See the problem.

 

[justoffal]

Boeing claims that the AF keeps moving the goal posts.
The latest delay is that all workers must have security clearances to work on installing the electronics packages.

Yeah..... Definitely sounds like bullshit story.
Maybe he should pull the contract and give it to Airbus?

 

[WorldWatcher]

Kennedy has one too.

Kennedy has a version of Air Force One at the Kennedy Presidential Library?

Which one?

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Yeah..... Definitely sounds like bullshit story.
Maybe he should pull the contract and give it to Airbus?

Given that Boeing is in the hole for billions on the fix cost contract they'd be ecstatic to cut their losses.

(And no, the government wouldn't get the money back for engineering already done, materials purchased, and man hours expended.)

WW

 

[kyzr]

I don't like the idea.... Those buildings look like they're very expensive to maintain. Are they paid for from the taxpayer funds?

Partly. They are built and maintained with donations.

Presidential Libraries Act of 1986

The Presidential Libraries Act of 1986 made significant changes to Presidential Libraries, requiring private endowments linked to the size of the facility. The National Archives uses these endowments to offset a portion of the maintenance costs for the library. The Presidential Libraries Act of...

www.archives.gov

The Presidential Libraries Act of 1986 made significant changes to Presidential Libraries, requiring private endowments linked to the size of the facility.

• The National Archives uses these endowments to offset a portion of the maintenance costs for the library.

 

[kyzr]

Yeah..... Definitely sounds like bullshit story.
Maybe he should pull the contract and give it to Airbus?

Too late now. Boeing got the contract in 2015, with delivery scheduled for 2022, Trump renegotiated it and the delivery went to 2029. Recently Boeing said the two new 747s would be delivered in 2027.

USAF, Boeing May Modify Air Force One Requirements

Air Force and Boeing are in discussions to adjust requirements for the new Air Force One VC-25B jets, to speed up delivery by 2027.

www.airandspaceforces.com

 

[justoffal]

Partly. They are built and maintained with donations.

Presidential Libraries Act of 1986

The Presidential Libraries Act of 1986 made significant changes to Presidential Libraries, requiring private endowments linked to the size of the facility. The National Archives uses these endowments to offset a portion of the maintenance costs for the library. The Presidential Libraries Act of...

www.archives.gov

The Presidential Libraries Act of 1986 made significant changes to Presidential Libraries, requiring private endowments linked to the size of the facility.

• The National Archives uses these endowments to offset a portion of the maintenance costs for the library.

So I take it we have 45 of these things?

Okay I looked it up.... We currently have 16.

 

[Godboy]

A jet in his library? That must be where all the trannies we're hanging out until Trump fired them.

Its a real piece of shit. Ive actually been in it.

 

[Godboy]

When was the last time a foreign country that just week before announced that the President privately owned company was going to be involved with a $5.5 Billion development project and then that country turns around and wants to gift that President a $400 Million luxury jet that the President then planned on taking with him all under the guise of "Well it will be given to DOD and then the plan will to to the library for his personal use."?

WW

What is the connection? Trump doesnt get to keep the plane. He isnt benefitting personally. This plane will literally be a prop in a "museum".

 

[Godboy]

Actually gifts to the United States, come under the control of the National Archives. They take control or possession of gifts given to the US or to the president.

National Archives and Records Administration: www.archives.gov

Tokens and Treasures exhibit features gifts to U.S. presidents by American citizens and foreign heads of states.

www.archives.gov

As the highest representative of the people and government, the President accepts gifts on behalf of the United States of America. The phenomenon, as old as the Presidency itself, grows with each administration: Today a President may receive 15,000 gifts a year. They come from every state in the nation and every country in the world. Gifts from foreign leaders continue a rich diplomatic tradition of exchange between heads of state; those from citizens, both Americans and others, symbolize an inherently democratic exercise - ordinary people freely addressing, in every manner and form, the President of the United States.

The National Archives takes possession.
Like they tried to do with Trumps presidential papers (especially the classified ones) that Trump refused to give up.

See the problem.

No, i do not see the problem. Its going inside a building and never again leaving that building, let alone flying Trump around.

 

[Godboy]

Kennedy has a version of Air Force One at the Kennedy Presidential Library?

Which one?

WW

Not at his library, but its actually 2 planes in flight museums,. One in Ohio and one in Washington.