Trump: “For those people who say they want peace, you can’t have peace if Iran has a nuclear weapon."

[TimFitz]

We had peace for 50 years with a nuclear USSR, and they were a much greater existential threat than Iran.

We also have a nuclear North Korea. Where is World War Three?

Like it or not, Iran is a sovereign nation. If they want a nuke, so what?

I seriously doubt they are anywhere near making one.

I think that they are closer than many people think.

Until recently, I believe that they have understood that being close to having a bomb, without the baggage of having one, is an effective deterrant.

Isreal has never admitted to its nukes, so there is that precident.

I would rather not see them with the bomb.

But Trump and Netanyahu's brinksmanship may insure it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

At least you're finally willing to admit that what Israel is doing in Palestine is genocide.
Isreal has always feared a nuclear Iran. They have their own nukes and sit under the US dome.
They do not want Iran to have the deterrant.

You completely avoided the question.
Gosh. I am surprised.

 

[TimFitz]

Non-responsive to the question asked.

You got the answer.

It just isn't the one you wanted to hear.

Netanyahu is obviously trying to drag Trump into a shooting war with Iran.

So far, Trump seems to be falling for it.

It was Isreal who launched the attacks, not Iran.

It was the United States that made a series of unreasonable, non starter demands in the peace talks that Trump tried out. Iran proposed returning to the JCPOA.

That would have ended the crisis, and won broad international support.

But since it was Trump who blew up that deal in the first place, his ego would not let him clean up his mess.

So now, Netanyahu conducts open war with Iran and the American president bellows his intentions to join in.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You got the answer.

To a question no one asked.
The question I asked remains unaddressed.
This will not change.

 

[Donald H]

It's more likely that the Zionist regime doesn't have any bombs, and Iran doesn't want one.

The first use of the bomb brings an immediate reply in kind.

That can be avoided as long as the proxy state (Iran or the Zionists) can transfer responsibility to their clients.)

 

[TimFitz]

To a question no one asked.
The question I asked remains unaddressed.
This will not change.

You just didn't get the answer you wanted to hear.

It's not like you are here making informed intellgent observations on the subject. You're just trolling and name calling.

And repeating whatever your beloved bellows.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You just didn't get the answer you wanted to hear

You answered a question no one asked.
The question I asked remains unaddressed.
This will not change.
Please - continue to prove me correct.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It's not like you are here making informed intellgent observations on the subject. You're just trolling and name calling.
And repeating whatever your beloved bellows.

Labels and name calling trying to substitute for intelligent discussion.

 

[TimFitz]

You answered a question no one asked.
The question I asked remains unaddressed.
This will not change.
Please - continue to prove me correct.

I have no idea what question you are talking about, and I am not interested in playing adolescent games with a troll.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I have no idea what question you are talking about

Ah.
You admit you did not bother to read the question, you just blabbed some meaningless response..
No real surprise.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I am not interested in playing adolescent games with a troll.

Labels and name calling trying to substitute for intelligent discussion.

 

[Rigby5]

Because he thinks he can drag the US into fighting it for him.

It's not the first time he tried.

And Trump is stupid enough to get roped in.

You negate your own premise.
if he needs a small war, and Gaza isn't it, then why start WW3?

Obviously Netanyahu is attacking Iran because a bigger war brings the US into it and implies risk to the US that will force foolish and ignorant people in the US to support Netanyahu's crimes under the belief it somehow protect the US from Iran.
And that is really foolish and ignorant because Iran has no delivery system of being a risk to the US even if they already had nukes.

Netanyahu started this war with Hamas with decades of an illegal starvation blockade.
And his goal obviously is the water front resort potential of Gaza.

But never forget it was Menachem Begin who started all the violence in Palestine, by blowing up the British peacekeepers in the King David Hotel, so he could start massacring native villages like Deir Yassin.

 

[Rigby5]

It's more likely that the Zionist regime doesn't have any bombs, and Iran doesn't want one.

The first use of the bomb brings an immediate reply in kind.

That can be avoided as long as the proxy state (Iran or the Zionists) can transfer responsibility to their clients.)

Israel definitely has nuclear weapons.
But they are illegal to use, except in defense.
So Israel has to make it appear they are being attacked first.
It is an old Zionist trick.
You have to deliberately get 6 million killed, so that you can then look good even when you are the one who deliberately started it.

 

[Rigby5]

Ah.
You admit you did not bother to read the question, you just blabbed some meaningless response..
No real surprise.

All you had to do way repeat the long past question, which was, "Why did Netanyahu amplify the war to the much larger scale by attacking Iran, when he only needed a small scale war to prevent being prosecuted?"

And again, the answer to that is obvious, since he takes care of both his prosecution and additional US aid, by enlarging the conflict to include Iran because then the US will look at Netanyahu as our protector. When in reality he is our biggest threat.

 

[TimFitz]

All you had to do way repeat the long past question, which was, "Why did Netanyahu amplify the war to the much larger scale by attacking Iran, when he only needed a small scale war to prevent being prosecuted?"

And again, the answer to that is obvious, since he takes care of both his prosecution and additional US aid, by enlarging the conflict to include Iran because then the US will look at Netanyahu as our protector. When in reality he is our biggest threat.

That's not what our troll friend wants to hear.

And, of course, he has no explanation of Isreal's behavior to offer.

He also knows that Trump really is stupid enough to swallow Netanyahu's bait and join the shooting war.

 

[Donald H]

Israel definitely has nuclear weapons.
But they are illegal to use, except in defense.
So Israel has to make it appear they are being attacked first.
It is an old Zionist trick.
You have to deliberately get 6 million killed, so that you can then look good even when you are the one who deliberately started it.

All you had to do way repeat the long past question, which was, "Why did Netanyahu amplify the war to the much larger scale by attacking Iran, when he only needed a small scale war to prevent being prosecuted?"

And again, the answer to that is obvious, since he takes care of both his prosecution and additional US aid, by enlarging the conflict to include Iran because then the US will look at Netanyahu as our protector. When in reality he is our biggest threat.

Netanyahu isn't going to be prosecuted, that's just Zionist bullshit.

It's no different than him doing America's/Trump's bidding in the ME, for obvious reasons.

 

[M14 Shooter]

That's not what our troll friend wants to hear.
He also knows that Trump really is stupid enough to swallow Netanyahu's bait and join the shooting war.

Labels and name calling trying to substitute for intelligent discussion.

 

[Ringo]

 

[TimFitz]

Labels and name calling trying to substitute for intelligent discussion.

We thought you’d run away.

Instead, you keep trolling away!

Now, perhaps you can answer your own question.

 

[TimFitz]

Obviously Netanyahu is attacking Iran because a bigger war brings the US into it and implies risk to the US that will force foolish and ignorant people in the US to support Netanyahu's crimes under the belief it somehow protect the US from Iran.
And that is really foolish and ignorant because Iran has no delivery system of being a risk to the US even if they already had nukes.

Netanyahu started this war with Hamas with decades of an illegal starvation blockade.
And his goal obviously is the water front resort potential of Gaza.

But never forget it was Menachem Begin who started all the violence in Palestine, by blowing up the British peacekeepers in the King David Hotel, so he could start massacring native villages like Deir Yassin.

Your remark about the lack of a delivery vehicle reminds me of the way right wing media made up all sorts of idiotic and lurid claims about Iraqi WMD’s.

They had the jingoistic wingnuts screaming from the rooftops, with tales of imaginary nuclear armed transatlantic drones, and a non existent terrorist training camps.

The very same people are screaming the same uninformed, I’ll conceived jingoism and falling for similar scare tactics.