Trump: “For those people who say they want peace, you can’t have peace if Iran has a nuclear weapon."

[Rigby5]

What war did he start?

Please, oh leading liar of the left.....tell us.

Trump attacked Iran which is an act of war.
He also funded Israel and the Ukraine.

I voted for him since he said he was against war.
Turns out he lied.

 

[Rigby5]

Hitler! Hitler! Hitler!

Your antics will just make you keep losing elections. Normal people aren’t falling for it.

Thank Gd we have Trump at the helm, and not Brainless Biden or DEI Idiot. They would sit back and let the Islamic Terror State get the bomb.

Wrong.
Iran is actually right on all the areas of conflict with the US.
And there is no greater evil terrorism than the US invading or taking over innocents like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iran in 1953, etc.
At this point, I would trust Iran with nukes more than the US.
The US not only illegally used nukes already, but started the Maidan Coup in the Ukraine in order to get a first strike capability against Russia.

 

[Rigby5]

Twenty year ago, Iran was stepping up its program.

They did so in response to the George WBush’s threats and his “axis of evil speech”.

You may recall that the Americans labeled Iran as part of an imaginary alliance with Iraq and North Korea.

Then, it attacked the country in that axis that did not have an active nuclear program.

The lesson was clear. Get nukes now to deter the US. North Korea did.

Iran hesitated.

Then it agreed to the JCPOA in 2015.

The Americans tore up the deal in 2017.

Now, the US is governed by an unstable, dangerous idiot, who has insulated himself behind a wall of flunkies.

And Netanyahu is leading him around by the nose.

Sorry, I meant 10 years ago.
The proof that Iran did stop their nuclear enrichment is that they don't have a bomb yet.
But by attacking them and imposing illegal economic sanctions, we ensured they now have to get a nuclear deterrent.

 

[Rigby5]

'Iranian pilots fled on sight': Israeli Air Force pilot reveals details from first strike over Iran.
'Fighting 1,500 km from home isn’t a walk in the park,' says IAF pilot Maj. N’ of the first strike in Iran; 'We saw Iranian jets take off—then flee and vanish, and we stayed two hours and could’ve gone back—again and again'
Elisha Ben Kimon|06.17.25 | 00:11
“This is my correction for October 7—this time we were the initiators,” says Maj N. (31), an F-15 pilot from Squadron 133, one of the first to take part in the unprecedented Israeli airstrikes over Iran at the start of Operation Rising Lion Now, he shares what it was like to wait for the green light, the challenges of flying deep into enemy territory, and the deeply personal sense of “correction” for the failure that launched the war.

'Iranian pilots fled on sight': Israeli Air Force pilot reveals details from first strike over Iran

'Fighting 1,500 km from home isn’t a walk in the park,' says IAF pilot Maj. N’ of the first strike in Iran; 'We saw Iranian jets take off—then flee and vanish, and we stayed two hours and could’ve gone back—again and again'

www.ynetnews.com

So Iran has ancient jets from before 1979?
So what?
That does not make the attack legal or ethical by Israel or the US.

 

[Rigby5]

Oh it was at deal? If passed?

Go **** yourself

Presidential deals do not need to pass congress, but it did pass.
And Iran followed through with the agreement.
It is the US who did not, when Trump imposed illegal economic sanctions.

 

[GLASNOST]

Trump attacked Iran which is an act of war.
He also funded Israel and the Ukraine.

I voted for him since he said he was against war.
Turns out he lied.

I'm with you 100% on this one.

 

[GLASNOST]

....... Iran ...... by attacking them and imposing illegal economic sanctions, we ensured they now have to get a nuclear deterrent.

Pecisely.

 

[Rigby5]

If you bothered to examine the AVIRIS information you would see 3 (as I recall) hotspots, so that means there were at least 3 different fission events, but there were likely more. The testimony of the fireman Matt Tartaglia mentioned a few. He went into those hotspots like the hero he was, and in months his teeth were falling out and not long after he died.

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If you were an independent and curious thinker you would study Pommer's work, but you ain't. You're too damn smart to read the work of German physicists on the topic. Too damn smart and too well brainwashed.

Wrong.
You can't make a small fission device.
It has to reach critical mass, so has to have a certain size limit.
And the smallest nuclear device anyone could ever make was the Davey Crockett.
And it still would have instantly killed any people in 1040' circle.
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100% instant casualty radius in excess of 520 feet (160 m). The shell's greatest effect would have been its extreme prompt neutron radiation which would have killed most of the enemy troops inside that circle within minutes. Its blast would do very little if any damage to the enemy's tracked vehicles. Troops further away would have died within hours, days and less than two weeks depending on their range from the point of burst and the effectiveness of their protection.
...}

 

[irosie91]

Pecisely.

what are "illegal economiic sanctions" ?

 

[Rigby5]

If you bothered to examine the AVIRIS information you would see 3 (as I recall) hotspots, so that means there were at least 3 different fission events, but there were likely more. The testimony of the fireman Matt Tartaglia mentioned a few. He went into those hotspots like the hero he was, and in months his teeth were falling out and not long after he died.

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If you were an independent and curious thinker you would study Pommer's work, but you ain't. You're too damn smart to read the work of German physicists on the topic. Too damn smart and too well brainwashed.

Fission would have killed hundreds, if not thousands, instantly.

 

[Rigby5]

what are "illegal economiic sanctions" ?

One of the big points of the 1906 Geneva Conventions was to make it illegal to starve out cities in order to get them to surrender.
So what they did was to make it illegal to interfere with civilian commerce.
Which is exactly what economic sanctions are intended to do.
They violate the inherent rights of civilians on the other side.
So the US is guilty of war crimes.
And since the US ratified the 1906 Geneva Conventions, then it is also US law we violate.

 

[Rigby5]

Of course there was

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/08/donald-trump-iran-assassination-plot-00188498

Not at all convincing.
{...
In September and October of this year, according to prosecutors, Shakeri, while located in Tehran, participated in voluntary phone interviews with the FBI. Prosecutors said his reason for agreeing to speak to the FBI was “to attempt to obtain a sentence reduction for another individual” who is imprisoned in the U.S.
...}
So his motive was to manipulate the FBI to benefit someone else, and yet he did so from Tehran, where if there actually had been a secret plot to assassinate Trump, then Shakeri would have been instantly disappeared.

 

[irosie91]

One of the big points of the 1906 Geneva Conventions was to make it illegal to starve out cities in order to get them to surrender.
So what they did was to make it illegal to interfere with civilian commerce.
Which is exactly what economic sanctions are intended to do.
They violate the inherent rights of civilians on the other side.
So the US is guilty of war crimes.
And since the US ratified the 1906 Geneva Conventions, then it is also US law we violate.

tried and true mechanism employed by the minions of the rapist of mecca during the GLORIOUS AGE of islamic conquest was and has been starvation siege----the technique
resulted in MANY genocides including that of the Zoroastrians of both Persia
and the middle east----the remnant fled by ship to Bombay. The Genocide of
Hindus of East Bengal was by starvation (circa 1970s). The genocide of the
Christians of Biafra----more than a million dead babies left starved to death in
the dust. BDS dates all the way back to the late 1930s and is, simply, ANOTHER
starvation siege ------but they don't count

 

[struth]

Presidential deals do not need to pass congress, but it did pass.
And Iran followed through with the agreement.
It is the US who did not, when Trump imposed illegal economic sanctions.

It didn’t pass, or it would be a treaty

A presidential “deal” is meaningless unless it’s a treaty

 

[struth]

Not at all convincing.
{...
In September and October of this year, according to prosecutors, Shakeri, while located in Tehran, participated in voluntary phone interviews with the FBI. Prosecutors said his reason for agreeing to speak to the FBI was “to attempt to obtain a sentence reduction for another individual” who is imprisoned in the U.S.
...}
So his motive was to manipulate the FBI to benefit someone else, and yet he did so from Tehran, where if there actually had been a secret plot to assassinate Trump, then Shakeri would have been instantly disappeared.

So why did the xiden admin make it all up and indict him?

 

[Mac-7]

Attacking Iran made the Mullahs now more supported than ever.

Nonsense

Iran was humiliated

Attacking Israel on oct 7 was the dumbest thing they could have done

 

[Soupnazi630]

But economic sanctions by the US against Iran are illegal, so Obama's was a better and more legal idea, and did prevent Iran from having nukes 20 years ago.

The sanctions are legal

 

[PeterPilot]

Fission would have killed hundreds, if not thousands, instantly.

I had no idea you were such an expert. Most likely you're no expert at all, except in your own mind.

Likely your knowledge base regarding nuclear technology advances since 1945 is virtually -0-. If you took the time to read Prager's well documented book, and if you had an open and curious mind, you would realize how wrong your assumptions are.