Trump: “For those people who say they want peace, you can’t have peace if Iran has a nuclear weapon."

[struth]

More made up BS.

The UN Security Council was involved and supportive.

It took twenty months to conclude the deal after the initial agreement was signed.

No on “rammed anything through”

The JCPOA had broad international support and was hailed worldwide

Trump was condemned for tearing it up.

he was warned that his stupidity would set the stage for something like what is happening now.

And now, that there is even a hint of negotiations, Netanyahu took the whip right out of Trump’s hands.

Trump is now following Tel Aviv’s lead, and indulging in his typical jingoistic threats.

He all but promised that the US would be involved in the war Isreal wants.

It was such a joke that xiden couldn’t any dems in congress to support it, hence why it was never signed or ratified

 

[struth]

No such plot has ever been uncovered.

Of course there was

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/08/donald-trump-iran-assassination-plot-00188498

 

[krichton]

There goes Trump with the Iraq War 2.0 talking points.

 

[krichton]

The fool you worship may well get us dragged into a shooting war in the Middle East.

He has no plan (seldom ever does), no clear objective, and little real support.

But it is ironic to see the way you Trump cultists who were calling people "warmongers" in recent days over Ukraine, are now screaming for war in Iran.

The irony completely escapes them. I think when you belong to a cult, you automatically lose all self awareness. You just live for the cult leader and nothing else. Just leave your brain the door.

 

[BothWings]

This war reminds me so much of the 2002 Iraq War and all the misinformation that was floated around, it isn’t funny.

Two peas in a pod.

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LMAO! The second one is the one that all administrations going back to that of the first one's father, wants to kill! Every president since Bush Sr has endorsed, supported, and been supported by the New World Order publicly. Trump made clear in no uncertain terms that he was draining their swamp. And they made clear they weren't having it. Ultimately they all support each other. Bush Sr and Bill Clinton were bosom buddies. They are one clan regardless of the bullshit party lines. Finally "HE" called them out on it and then TDS was a thing.

With all that said, I do not agree with Trump's Israel policies. But we're talking about a country which nearly owns our government so what is anyone to do? Any American president is between a rock and a hard place with that.

 

[August West]

It was such a joke that xiden couldn’t any dems in congress to support it, hence why it was never signed or ratified

What is a xiden and how old are you?

 

[struth]

What is a xiden and how old are you?

A Xiden is a corrupt former "President" that was/is owned by China....that was the biggest disaster in American politics since the Civil War

 

[August West]

A Xiden is a corrupt former "President" that was/is owned by China....that was the biggest disaster in American politics since the Civil War

Why isn`t Dear Leader (34 felony convictions) charging xiden ( I'm learning to speak MAGAese) with corruption?

 

[struth]

Why isn`t Dear Leader (34 felony convictions) charging xiden ( I'm learning to speak MAGAese) with corruption?

Because, Xiden's own DOJ, confirmed he was too senile to prosecute. We don't prosecute senile people.

 

[August West]

Because, Xiden's own DOJ, confirmed he was too senile to prosecute. We don't prosecute senile people.

Link, please.
People were warned that drinking Trump`s bleach and ingesting Lysol was not a good idea, but did that stop you? Apparently not.
It wasn`t "senile" Biden who told you to do that.
Again, prove what you say about Biden`s DOJ or STFU.

 

[struth]

Link, please.
People were warned that drinking Trump`s bleach and ingesting Lysol was not a good idea, but did that stop you? Apparently not.
It wasn`t "senile" Biden who told you to do that.
Again, prove what you say about Biden`s DOJ or STFU.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf

Link to trump saying drink Lysol or bleach please…

 

[Rigby5]

It was such a joke that xiden couldn’t any dems in congress to support it, hence why it was never signed or ratified

{...https://www.cbsnews.com/politics?ftag=CNM-16-10abg0d

Obama's Iran deal survives vote in Congress​

By Rebecca Kaplan
September 10, 2015 / 4:47 PM EDT / CBS News

The Iran nuclear deal survived, as a result of the Senate vote Thursday, when Democrats blocked the Republicans' resolution of disapproval.

Fifty-eight Republicans voted to move ahead with the resolution, and 42 Democrats voted "no." The bill needed 60 "yes" votes to get a final vote in the Senate.

The bill's failure makes it unlikely that Congress will be able to advance any limitations on the Iran nuclear agreement. The vote ensures that the measure won't even make it to the White House and force President Obama to use his veto authority.

Earlier this week, several more Democratic announced their support for the nuclear agreement. Though many of those Democratic senators said their support was reluctant, it nonetheless gave the president enough support to kill the disapproval resolution on the floor.

House Republicans are still looking for ways to block the deal, and a group of conservatives is arguing that they do not have to vote on the deal yet because the administration has failed to produce "side deals" negotiated between Iran and the International Atomic Energy Agency. On Wednesday, House Republican leaders had to cancel their own planned vote on a resolution of disapproval.
...}

 

[struth]

{...Politics News: Political parties, election news, policies, and news from the Biden administration from CBS News

Obama's Iran deal survives vote in Congress​

By Rebecca Kaplan
September 10, 2015 / 4:47 PM EDT / CBS News

The Iran nuclear deal survived, as a result of the Senate vote Thursday, when Democrats blocked the Republicans' resolution of disapproval.

Fifty-eight Republicans voted to move ahead with the resolution, and 42 Democrats voted "no." The bill needed 60 "yes" votes to get a final vote in the Senate.

The bill's failure makes it unlikely that Congress will be able to advance any limitations on the Iran nuclear agreement. The vote ensures that the measure won't even make it to the White House and force President Obama to use his veto authority.

Earlier this week, several more Democratic announced their support for the nuclear agreement. Though many of those Democratic senators said their support was reluctant, it nonetheless gave the president enough support to kill the disapproval resolution on the floor.

House Republicans are still looking for ways to block the deal, and a group of conservatives is arguing that they do not have to vote on the deal yet because the administration has failed to produce "side deals" negotiated between Iran and the International Atomic Energy Agency. On Wednesday, House Republican leaders had to cancel their own planned vote on a resolution of disapproval.
...}

Oh it was at deal? If passed?

Go **** yourself

 

[M14 Shooter]

If you bothered to examine

Hey sport -- give up so soon?
Of course you did.
Because you have nothing.
And you know it.
Disagree?
-In which tower did the fission device detonate?
-How did it get there?
-What was its yield?
-When in the sequence of events that day did it detonate?

 

[Rigby5]

But it did not have the 2/3rds approval of Congress that would have been required if Obama took it to them. It was just another example of arrogant Democrats ignoring what Americans voted for - and bypassing their elected representatives.

And the UN Security Council?! Are you kidding me? The UN is pro-Arab and anti-Israel.

As well the UN Security Council should be pro-Arab and anti-Israel, since Israel is a fake country of Polish and Russian invaders of Turkic descent, who never paid for any land.

 

[Rigby5]

A treaty was decided against because Congress would have voted it down. So Obama pulled a fast one, called it a “deal,” and raced it up to the anti-Israel, pro-Arab U.N.

But economic sanctions by the US against Iran are illegal, so Obama's was a better and more legal idea, and did prevent Iran from having nukes 20 years ago.

 

[Rigby5]

NOPE_----the British and American oil companies LIKED the idea of the SHAH COUP----because they
did not like the NATIONAL SOCIALIST (read that nazi-baathist style) ideation of MOSSADEGH.
In fact the Russians ALSO mistrusted Mossadegh. There is no question that the "superpowers"
of the time---wanted the communist TUDEH party ----OUT ----but it was the Iranian Military that did
the coup----not the US NAVY SEALS----blame it on oil

Totally wrong.

Mossadegh was an elected and pure democratic republic.
The idea of nationalize Iran's oil is not even socialist, since he still wanted to allow privatization, just not by colonial imperialists who were essentially stealing the oil.

Mossadegh had nothing to do with the Tudeh party.
{...
The Tudeh Party of Iran is an Iranian Marxist-Leninist communist party. Formed in 1941, with Soleiman Mirza Eskandari as its head, it had considerable influence in its early years and played an important role during Mohammad Mosaddegh's campaign to nationalize the Anglo-Persian Oil Company and his term as prime minister.
From the Iran crisis of 1946 onwards, Tudeh became a pro-Soviet organization and remained prepared to carry out the dictates of the Kremlin, even if it meant sacrificing Iranian political independence and sovereignty.
The crackdown that followed the 1953 coup against Mosaddegh is said to have "destroyed" the party, although a remnant persisted. The party still exists but has remained much weaker as a result of its banning in Iran and mass arrests by the Islamic Republic in 1982, as well as the executions of political prisoners in 1988. Tudeh identified itself as the historical offshoot of the Communist Party of Persia.
...}

And it was entirely the US and England who caused the 1953 massacres.
It may have been the Shah's soldiers, but the bribes that caused it came from the US.
And it was evil, brutal, and greedy.
Iranians are right to never trust us again, and they deserve a nuclear deterrent.
Its not like they can use it offensively.
What are they going to do, blow up Jerusalem and kill 2 million Palestinians?

 

[Rigby5]

All of this that you typed if there is any truth and there are doubts, Progressive Socialists could have changed when in power. They did not. Just like Homeland Security, the Patriot Act and the TSA. They actually strengthened the Patriot Act.

The Patriot Act, Homeland Security, and the TSA all make the US more into a police state dictatorship.

 

[Rigby5]

No

The mullahs were in trouble when obama was president and he refused to give the student uprising any support or encouragement

It could again

Attacking Iran made the Mullahs now more supported than ever.

 

[Rigby5]

Seems like the Islamic Terrorist of Iran is giving Trump a big FU, as they continue sending numerous missiles into residential areas of Israel, and in defiance of Trump’s call for complete surrender.

No one could ever "surrender" to the evil person who attacked first without provocation.
Israel is also in violation and deserves retribution for their crimes.