Trump advisor says the goal of Trump's Social Security policy is to “force” retired Americans “back into the workforce”

[EvilCat Breath]

I was providing context, since you don't seem to know Trump's policies on SS. I guess when you hear hard facts that's your cue to shut down your brain and begin fantasizing about Trump?I pay no attention to democrat drool they say, you say, are Trump policies.

 

[initforme]

Why would we want retirees coming back into the workforce? All politics aside, why would we ever want people working longer? So the precious corporations are ensured of a labor force?

 

[westwall]

So how are retirees still getting paid their checks every month? Come back when you have a real argument.

It's called "robbing Peter, to pay paul".

Look it up.

 

[initforme]

It's called "robbing Peter, to pay paul".

Look it up.

People pay into it nobody gets robbed. It helps make america great. We don't need people retiring later that would hurt the nation

 

[Independent thinker]

Why "force" retired Americans "back into the workforce"? What do you think?

LOL. Democrats have already forced the retired back into the workforce because costs are so high now seniors can't make ends meet.

 

[Anathema]

Why "force" retired Americans "back into the workforce"? What do you think?

If they don’t have the finances to support themselves they shouldn’t have retired in the first place. Even with my pension I have no intention of retiring until I literally can’t do the work anymore.

 

[initforme]

If they don’t have the finances to support themselves they shouldn’t have retired in the first place. Even with my pension I have no intention of retiring until I literally can’t do the

Are you able to collect your pension and work full time? That's a good deal. Good for you. Same employer?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Trump has pledged to eliminate income taxes on SS benefits/checks and taxes on overtime pay, both of which help fund SS. Then there's the promise of mass deportations of immigrants. All of whom pay into SS. That will bleed the SS fund dry. A lost of 33% is predicted by the CBO. If retirees lose 33% off their checks, guess what's going to happen. They'll need to find a job. Here's the kicker it this won't occur till 2031. By then Trump will be long out of office if he wins and it'll be directly blamed on the next democrat president. Then it becomes the job of democrats to bail out yet another disasterous republican run economy.

Deportations of illegals not immigrants

 

[OKTexas]

Guess what, the SS fund is speeding towards insolvency as a result of those tax cuts. In addition to adding 2 trillion to the national debt. If you don't have a problem with that then don't ever complain about the status of either.

And yet they know that 3 million undocumented immigrants pay income taxes to the tune of 100 billion dollars a year. That's money that flows back into the SS fund, which they don't even qualify for.

ROFLMFAO, yep you're just not very smart. Social Security gets a fraction of that.

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[krichton]

It's called "robbing Peter, to pay paul".

Look it up.

No, it's your claim, so you look it up. Prove that SS has been insolvent for the past 20 years.

 

[krichton]

ROFLMFAO, yep you're just not very smart. Social Security gets a fraction of that.

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Whatever, undocumented immigrants still contribute 26 billion annually to SS. You're making light of this money but I wonder where the US government will find 26 billion if they all magically disappear if Trump wins the election.

 

[OKTexas]

Whatever, undocumented immigrants still contribute 26 billion annually to SS. You're making light of this money but I wonder where the US government will find 26 billion if they all magically disappear if Trump wins the election.

Really? According to your last post it would be 1.4 billion. Your claim just exploded by more than 18X, yep, you're not very smart. LMAO

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[krichton]

Really? According to your last post it would be 1.4 billion. Your claim just exploded by more than 18X, yep, you're not very smart. LMAO

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Where did I ever say 1.4 billion? Where did that number even come from? This is the irony of telling other people that they're "not very smart." LMAO

 

[krichton]

Deportations of illegals not immigrants

Trump has said he wants to deport legal immigrants as well

 

[OKTexas]

Where did I ever say 1.4 billion? Where did that number even come from? This is the irony of telling other people that they're "not very smart." LMAO

You said:

And yet they know that 3 million undocumented immigrants pay income taxes to the tune of 100 billion dollars a year.

The total social security tax in 12.4%, are you smart enough to do that math? Personally I ******* doubt it.

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[krichton]

You said:

The total social security tax in 12.4%, are you smart enough to do that math? Personally I ******* doubt it.

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Wait, so the math on 12.4% of 100 billion is 1.4 billion???? How?! This is a magnificent example of how actual dumb people often tell others how much smarter they are than anyone else. It's actually very Trumpian. I still don't know where 1.4 billion is coming from, which I've never claimed.


The numbers are from the institute on taxation but it's reported elsewhere as well. Both 100 billion and 26 billion.

Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants

Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase.

itep.org

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Trump has said he wants to deport legal immigrants as well

Lie

 

[OKTexas]

Wait, so the math on 12.4% of 100 billion is 1.4 billion???? How?! This is a magnificent example of how actual dumb people often tell others how much smarter they are than anyone else. It's actually very Trumpian. I still don't know where 1.4 billion is coming from, which I've never claimed.


The numbers are from the institute on taxation but it's reported elsewhere as well. Both 100 billion and 26 billion.

Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants

Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase.

itep.org

My mistake on the typo, it would be 12.4 billion, not 26 billion. And according to your link they didn't even pay the 100 billion in federal income taxes like you claimed:

And yet they know that 3 million undocumented immigrants pay income taxes to the tune of 100 billion dollars a year.

It says they paid 96.7 billion, including State and local taxes. And their numbers don't add up on social security contributions. Exactly how would social security contributions be almost double that of federal income taxes? You link is bullshit.

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[Lesh]

Keep your grubby hands off my Social Security

I worked my whole like for a decent retirement

 

[Anathema]

Are you able to collect your pension and work full time? That's a good deal. Good for you. Same employer?

No. Thats not what I’m talking about. So far as I’m concerned the Pension is only for use if/when I am no longer able to work at all.