Transgenderism undermines women's rights, despite other feminists' claims: Kara Dansky

[hadit]

Uh, you and Hadit and Mormon Bob didn't care about women's athletics until they started letting Transgender women compete. Then you suddenly care. Come on, when was the last time you sat down and watched a WNBA game? I think the only "women's athletics" anyone cares about is beach volleyball, for some reason.

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Yeah, can't imagine why this has a following....

You have no idea what sports I watch and what I don't watch. You're just projecting again because you don't like having your disdain for women being pointed out.

First, it's Title IX.

Secondly, the whole "College Athletics" is a holdover from an earlier time, and frankly, I think it's kind of silly to make a college Athlete work for free for 4 years before he has a shot at the Real Money in the NBA or NFL. MLB doesn't even bother with this charade anymore, they just find really talented people from South America, while the NHL finds really talented people from Europe.

What the colleges SHOULD be about is preparing young people for work in the real world, and just judging by the new graduates I encounter who can't slap together a decent resume, they are failing miserably.

They are a reflection of society, which would rather watch college athletes play ball than watch engineers graduate, and that's just the way it is. Teachers should earn more than athletes, but they don't, again because a lot of alumni can name the team's quarterback, but none can name the top physics professor. Unfortunately, the idiot teenagers in the 60's and 70's are now in charge, and they're failing us.

 

[22lcidw]

You have no idea what sports I watch and what I don't watch. You're just projecting again because you don't like having your disdain for women being pointed out.

They are a reflection of society, which would rather watch college athletes play ball than watch engineers graduate, and that's just the way it is. Teachers should earn more than athletes, but they don't, again because a lot of alumni can name the team's quarterback, but none can name the top physics professor. Unfortunately, the idiot teenagers in the 60's and 70's are now in charge, and they're failing us.

You are correct about the Baby Boomers. But the previous generation started the infection when they allowed extremists in their time hiding behind social causes.

 

[Mac-7]

Uh, you and Hadit and Mormon Bob didn't care about women's athletics until they started letting Transgender women compete.

Wrong

you are off by about two years

there is one women’s sport that I like

women’s volleyball is great

the Texas Longhorns women are perennial national championship contenders and they are fun to watch

particularly sophomore Melanie Parra who is very petite but also a good player

it would be a shame if some pervert with a penis inserted himself into the women's sport where he does not belong

 

[hadit]

Wrong

you are off by about two years

there is one women’s sport that I like

women’s volleyball is great

the Texas Longhorns women are perennial national championship contenders and they are fun to watch

particularly sophomore Melanie Parra who is very petite but also a good player

it would be a shame if some pervert with a penis inserted himself into the women's sport where he does not belong

I like men's and women's volleyball about equally. Soccer, likewise. Joe has no clue what he's saying, he's just spit balling, trying to find something that will stick.

 

[Mac-7]

I like men's and women's volleyball about equally. Soccer, likewise. Joe has no clue what he's saying, he's just spit balling, trying to find something that will stick.

I agree.

 

[JoeB131]

Perhaps you're not paying attention.

Naw, man, if anything, we've grown MORE prude since I grew up in the era of "Free Love". When was the last time you saw a really good sex scene in a movie? Oh, my God, we saw a nipple, let's slap an NC-17 on that bitch.

And there you go again. I don't care if a woman is a stripper, she's still due the respect anyone else is due. And certainly, the whole thing should have fallen apart as soon as it became apparent her story wasn't believable, just like it should have in Ford's case. That's why there was no in-depth FBI investigation, there just wasn't enough to go on. She couldn't even remember how she got there and got back home, to say nothing of the fact that no one she claimed was a witness would corroborate her story.

Okay, let's look at that.

First, strippers don't really deserve "respect" if they don't respect themselves. This woman made up a bullshit story because the boys were rude to her. Instead of conducting an investigation, the DA just blundered forward and charged people, some of whom weren't even in the room.

Ford, on the other hand, is a professional woman, completely credible and believable. There was plenty to go on, but again, the Republicans were determined to put another Neanderthal on the court no matter what.

I'm glad you're not a school administrator.

Because those school administrators did a bang up job.

Hmmm, interesting tactic, project a negative idea on people in opposition to you so you can feel better about yourself and not have to look at your own failings.

My only failing was voting Republican for 20 years and watch them wreck the middle class while waiving a flag.

 

[JoeB131]

You have no idea what sports I watch and what I don't watch.

Yes, I know you totally absolve yourself from what your side does to this country.

They are a reflection of society, which would rather watch college athletes play ball than watch engineers graduate, and that's just the way it is. Teachers should earn more than athletes, but they don't, again because a lot of alumni can name the team's quarterback, but none can name the top physics professor. Unfortunately, the idiot teenagers in the 60's and 70's are now in charge, and they're failing us.

Oh, please... stop trying to blame society for what the educational-industrial complex does. Higher education is a scam, through and through, and the sports teams are just the mascots. "Come to State U, we have an awesome football team that your kid won't get to be on, but he'll sure as fuck pay for the rest of his life!" We charge a kid more money to buy a piece of paper than it costs to buy a house, and we make him pay for it for the rest of his life because they keep jacking up the price.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. I joined the Army to pay for college, but I got a lot more out of the Army than I ever got out of "Higher Education".

 

[hadit]

Naw, man, if anything, we've grown MORE prude since I grew up in the era of "Free Love". When was the last time you saw a really good sex scene in a movie? Oh, my God, we saw a nipple, let's slap an NC-17 on that bitch.

You say that like it's a bad thing. Isn't there enough free pron on the interwebs for you?

Okay, let's look at that.

First, strippers don't really deserve "respect" if they don't respect themselves. This woman made up a bullshit story because the boys were rude to her. Instead of conducting an investigation, the DA just blundered forward and charged people, some of whom weren't even in the room.

Oh, certainly the DA blew that one big time and messed up a lot of lives for nothing, but that has nothing to do with the fact that people deserve respect. Heck, even Quid Pro deserves some respect and shouldn't have been abused like he was when they made him stumble for president.

Ford, on the other hand, is a professional woman, completely credible and believable. There was plenty to go on, but again, the Republicans were determined to put another Neanderthal on the court no matter what.

Nope, her story had more holes than a screen door. Nobody she said was a witness would corroborate her story.

Because those school administrators did a bang up job.

And you would have given the boy a wink and a nod while pretending to be upset at what he did.

My only failing was voting Republican for 20 years and watch them wreck the middle class while waiving a flag.

And where were the democrats during this time? Don't tell my you're one of those who pretends they weren't around? Fact is, they went along with everything once they saw how the economy boomed.

 

[hadit]

Yes, I know you totally absolve yourself from what your side does to this country.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with what sports I choose to watch. Did you take your meds this morning?

Oh, please... stop trying to blame society for what the educational-industrial complex does. Higher education is a scam, through and through, and the sports teams are just the mascots. "Come to State U, we have an awesome football team that your kid won't get to be on, but he'll sure as fuck pay for the rest of his life!" We charge a kid more money to buy a piece of paper than it costs to buy a house, and we make him pay for it for the rest of his life because they keep jacking up the price.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. I joined the Army to pay for college, but I got a lot more out of the Army than I ever got out of "Higher Education".

Hmmm, and here we have been told that Republicans are anti-education. Who would have guessed?

And, regardless of your personal opinion, college sports would not be bigger than actual education if society didn't demand it. If no one shows up for games, no one watches them on TV, no one donates for a new stadium, etc., it goes away. Only when society values STEM graduation rates more than touchdowns will that change.

 

[JoeB131]

You say that like it's a bad thing. Isn't there enough free pron on the interwebs for you?

Meh, porn is boring. But a good sex scene in a movie helps tell a story. If you believe TV, everyone has sex fully clothed. And sexual tension is more interesting than actual sex.

Oh, certainly the DA blew that one big time and messed up a lot of lives for nothing, but that has nothing to do with the fact that people deserve respect. Heck, even Quid Pro deserves some respect and shouldn't have been abused like he was when they made him stumble for president.

Nope. Strippers don't deserve respect, because they don't respect themselves. The fact that the feminists have gone with this "everyone should be believed" mentality as a starting point is kind of the problem. This should have been scrutinized a lot earlier in the process. But this DA knuckled under to the usual suspects.

Nope, her story had more holes than a screen door. Nobody she said was a witness would corroborate her story.

Most rapes don't have cooraberating witnesses.

And you would have given the boy a wink and a nod while pretending to be upset at what he did.

Which is how schools handle MOST teen hookups. They aren't there to play sex police.

And where were the democrats during this time? Don't tell my you're one of those who pretends they weren't around? Fact is, they went along with everything once they saw how the economy boomed.

Actually, they fought it every step of the way, and usually got frustrated by Republicans out to wreck the unions.

And, regardless of your personal opinion, college sports would not be bigger than actual education if society didn't demand it. If no one shows up for games, no one watches them on TV, no one donates for a new stadium, etc., it goes away. Only when society values STEM graduation rates more than touchdowns will that change.

Society isn't to blame here, decades of campus culture is...

And again, only a couple of sport matter. The rest have to put in there by government mandates through Title IX. Then you get a university like UIC, that never had a meaningful sports program, but they keep soaking the students trying to create one.

 

[hadit]

Meh, porn is boring. But a good sex scene in a movie helps tell a story. If you believe TV, everyone has sex fully clothed. And sexual tension is more interesting than actual sex.


Nope. Strippers don't deserve respect, because they don't respect themselves. The fact that the feminists have gone with this "everyone should be believed" mentality as a starting point is kind of the problem. This should have been scrutinized a lot earlier in the process. But this DA knuckled under to the usual suspects.

There's a big difference between believing someone and giving them ordinary dignity as people. No, we don't automatically believe rape accusations, nor do we automatically ignore them. We check them out. In the Duke case, justice was NOT served, and it should have been dropped almost immediately. NOT because she was a stripper, because her story unraveled immediately, like Ford's did.

Most rapes don't have cooraberating witnesses.

Ford didn't accuse Kavanaugh of rape, remember? The people she named as corroborating witnesses didn't corroborate her story. That was the bottom line, after 30 years there just wasn't any reason to go further. No DNA evidence, no police photos of bruises, no police report at all, couldn't remember how she got to the party or how she got home, plenty of people supposedly around but no one supported her story, and on it goes. No angry father following up on someone assaulting his daughter, just no reason to go further.

Which is how schools handle MOST teen hookups. They aren't there to play sex police.

The fact that you don't distinguish between hookups and rape makes me very happy you're not a school administrator. In fact, you should not appear in society at all.

Actually, they fought it every step of the way, and usually got frustrated by Republicans out to wreck the unions.

They've been in charge since then and done nothing to change it. Poor weak, useless things, scared a Republican is going to look at them sideways.

Society isn't to blame here, decades of campus culture is...

Colleges are trying to present something people want to buy, just like every other business on the planet. Society wants to see amateur athletes and cheer for their alma mater, so colleges create sports programs for them. No demand, no sports programs. Your beef is really with society that puts a higher premium on touchdowns than on STEM graduations.

And again, only a couple of sport matter. The rest have to put in there by government mandates through Title IX. Then you get a university like UIC, that never had a meaningful sports program, but they keep soaking the students trying to create one.

And they keep trying to create one because they attract more students with tuition dollars and more alumni donations. Look, you're just not going to successfully make the point that colleges are doing this for no reason. They know sports draw attention, so they create sports programs specifically for that purpose, and they will continue doing so because Uncle Sam is right there with the big loans to saddle new students with lifetime debt.

 

[The Original Tree]

What's hard for me to imagine is that you think with all the REAL problems we have in this country, this is a big deal to anyone. but haters gonna hate.

Why do you hate women and "cisgender" men?

You are a misogynist and sexist.

BTW cisgender is the most idiotic term ever invented by queer academia.

 

[The Original Tree]

There's a big difference between believing someone and giving them ordinary dignity as people. No, we don't automatically believe rape accusations, nor do we automatically ignore them. We check them out. In the Duke case, justice was NOT served, and it should have been dropped almost immediately. NOT because she was a stripper, because her story unraveled immediately, like Ford's did.

Ford didn't accuse Kavanaugh of rape, remember? The people she named as corroborating witnesses didn't corroborate her story. That was the bottom line, after 30 years there just wasn't any reason to go further. No DNA evidence, no police photos of bruises, no police report at all, couldn't remember how she got to the party or how she got home, plenty of people supposedly around but no one supported her story, and on it goes. No angry father following up on someone assaulting his daughter, just no reason to go further.

The fact that you don't distinguish between hookups and rape makes me very happy you're not a school administrator. In fact, you should not appear in society at all.

They've been in charge since then and done nothing to change it. Poor weak, useless things, scared a Republican is going to look at them sideways.

Colleges are trying to present something people want to buy, just like every other business on the planet. Society wants to see amateur athletes and cheer for their alma mater, so colleges create sports programs for them. No demand, no sports programs. Your beef is really with society that puts a higher premium on touchdowns than on STEM graduations.

And they keep trying to create one because they attract more students with tuition dollars and more alumni donations. Look, you're just not going to successfully make the point that colleges are doing this for no reason. They know sports draw attention, so they create sports programs specifically for that purpose, and they will continue doing so because Uncle Sam is right there with the big loans to saddle new students with lifetime debt.

That crazy bitch lifted her accusation right from the movie "Risky Business"!
Freaking plain for anyone with a brain what the Demoloontard did.

I actually don't believe she is crazy. This is DemNazi Modus Operandi as their first line of defense against the political opposition is to try to destroy their character rather than debate ideas and seek solutions and compromises.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Meh, porn is boring. But a good sex scene in a movie helps tell a story. If you believe TV, everyone has sex fully clothed. And sexual tension is more interesting than actual sex.

Spoken like a pathetic incel who has never been in a truly worthwhile relationship with a woman, and who imagines that sex, as depicted in crude movies, is the end-all of such relationships.

Here you are, almost six decades old, stuck in a phase that most men outgrow by the time they're in their late teens or early twenties.

 

[JoeB131]

There's a big difference between believing someone and giving them ordinary dignity as people. No, we don't automatically believe rape accusations, nor do we automatically ignore them. We check them out. In the Duke case, justice was NOT served, and it should have been dropped almost immediately. NOT because she was a stripper, because her story unraveled immediately, like Ford's did.

Except they indicted these boys... that's what the radical feminist view on rape gets you... They hang you before they put you on trial.

Ford didn't accuse Kavanaugh of rape, remember? The people she named as corroborating witnesses didn't corroborate her story. That was the bottom line, after 30 years there just wasn't any reason to go further. No DNA evidence, no police photos of bruises, no police report at all, couldn't remember how she got to the party or how she got home, plenty of people supposedly around but no one supported her story, and on it goes. No angry father following up on someone assaulting his daughter, just no reason to go further.

Again, they'd have found dead hookers in Kavanaugh's basement, and they would have still confirmed him.

Yeah, he looks stable!

The fact that you don't distinguish between hookups and rape makes me very happy you're not a school administrator. In fact, you should not appear in society at all.

Um, yeah, three hookups in the school bathroom, clearly this girl was on the wrong track. Too bad she didn't have a parent holding her responsible.

They've been in charge since then and done nothing to change it. Poor weak, useless things, scared a Republican is going to look at them sideways.

Okay, you tell yourself that... the Democrats have had all the levers of power exactly for four years since 1980.

Colleges are trying to present something people want to buy, just like every other business on the planet. Society wants to see amateur athletes and cheer for their alma mater, so colleges create sports programs for them. No demand, no sports programs. Your beef is really with society that puts a higher premium on touchdowns than on STEM graduations.

Nope, my beef is with the college mentality that doesn't do a good job of doing academics...

And they keep trying to create one because they attract more students with tuition dollars and more alumni donations. Look, you're just not going to successfully make the point that colleges are doing this for no reason. They know sports draw attention, so they create sports programs specifically for that purpose, and they will continue doing so because Uncle Sam is right there with the big loans to saddle new students with lifetime debt.

Or we could just stop forcing them to do Title IX, allow athletes to be paid, and regulate it like a business.

 

[JoeB131]

Spoken like a pathetic incel who has never been in a truly worthwhile relationship with a woman, and who imagines that sex, as depicted in crude movies, is the end-all of such relationships.

Here you are, almost six decades old, stuck in a phase that most men outgrow by the time they're in their late teens or early twenties.

Okay, Mormon Bob, I was talking about Movies that aren't meant to appeal to your bizarre cult...

When your cult tells a woman her highest function is to make babies and you want to kill women who have abortions, you really don't get to throw shade.

 

[hadit]

Except they indicted these boys... that's what the radical feminist view on rape gets you... They hang you before they put you on trial.

The radical feminist view on rape is wrong, flat out. The other extreme, ignoring it, is as well.

Again, they'd have found dead hookers in Kavanaugh's basement, and they would have still confirmed him.

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Yeah, he looks stable!

Yeah, you keep saying that, but you have to realize at some point that you're not making Ford's case any stronger. All you're succeeding in doing is convincing everyone that if you don't like someone, you're going to assume they're guilty of whatever anyone can accuse them of doing.

Um, yeah, three hookups in the school bathroom, clearly this girl was on the wrong track. Too bad she didn't have a parent holding her responsible.

I've noticed that you spend a whole lot more time and effort demonizing the girl that was assaulted than you do even bothering with the boy who assaulted her. There's a story in the Bible that sounds very similar... At any rate, you're convincing no one that you like women and girls very much.

Okay, you tell yourself that... the Democrats have had all the levers of power exactly for four years since 1980.

And I'm sure, since you looked that up, that you know how many years the Republicans had all the levers as well.

Nope, my beef is with the college mentality that doesn't do a good job of doing academics...

And again, when society values STEM graduations more than touchdowns, you'll see better academic results.

Or we could just stop forcing them to do Title IX, allow athletes to be paid, and regulate it like a business.

A better solution entirely would be minor league teams, just like baseball has. Students shouldn't be paid to play they should earn grades.

 

[JoeB131]

The radical feminist view on rape is wrong, flat out. The other extreme, ignoring it, is as well.

I'm not talking about any extreme. You look at the credibility of the complaining witness... If she has sex for money, it isn't rape, it's a contract dispute.

Yeah, you keep saying that, but you have to realize at some point that you're not making Ford's case any stronger. All you're succeeding in doing is convincing everyone that if you don't like someone, you're going to assume they're guilty of whatever anyone can accuse them of doing.

Kavanaugh outright misogyny since he got on the court proves it right.

Brett Kavanaugh’s SCOTUS Seat Rests on a Mountain of Misogyny - Ms. Magazine

It's been one year today since Brett Kavanaugh was confirmed to the U.S. Supreme Court. Every woman in this country should still be livid over the blatant misogyny that polluted the entire confirmation process. I know I am.

msmagazine.com

From his nomination through his confirmation hearings, Kavanaugh’s extreme, anti-choice record became eclipsed by multiple sexual assault allegations against him and his angry, dishonest testimony that followed. After weeks of public outrage over the allegations and the lack of transparency around the nominations process, Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee quickly rushed to ramrod his confirmation through.

During that time, our government belittled Dr. Christine Blasey Ford’s testimony against Kavanaugh and stifled the account of another credible accuser, Deborah Ramirez. New information has been brought to light since then that further substantiates Ramirez’s charges against Kavanaugh, which the FBI failed to pursue despite the credibility of her account.

And I'm sure, since you looked that up, that you know how many years the Republicans had all the levers as well.

Sure. 2 years under Trump, 6 years under Bush. Thanks for asking.

Come on, you guys dismantled the middle class, and now you are trying to bury the body... kind of like those dead hookers in someone's basement.

And again,

 

[Bob Blaylock]

When your cult tells a woman her highest function is to make babies and you want to kill women who have abortions, you really don't get to throw shade.

Good thing I do not belong to any cult that says any such thing; nor do I even know of any such cult.

And even if I did believe any such thing, it is not anywhere close to being as degrading or hateful as the views which you consistently express about women.


And it is truly bizarre that you think you have some moral high ground on which to stand, to condemn me for believing that those who commit the very worst form of murder, against the most innocent and defenseless of all human beings, ought to be brought to proper justice. But then that doesn't demonstrate anything about you that hasn't always been obvious; that you are a piece of shit who openly takes the side of criminals—including those who murder innocent children—against the side of human beings.

 

[hadit]

I'm not talking about any extreme. You look at the credibility of the complaining witness... If she has sex for money, it isn't rape, it's a contract dispute.

You look at the credibility of the accuser, the credibility of the accused, the physical evidence, the credibility of any eyewitnesses, and everything else that has any bearing on the case. Your list is a little short, don't you think? I sure do. In all these areas, Ford fell short.

Kavanaugh outright misogyny since he got on the court proves it right.

Brett Kavanaugh’s SCOTUS Seat Rests on a Mountain of Misogyny - Ms. Magazine

It's been one year today since Brett Kavanaugh was confirmed to the U.S. Supreme Court. Every woman in this country should still be livid over the blatant misogyny that polluted the entire confirmation process. I know I am.

msmagazine.com

From his nomination through his confirmation hearings, Kavanaugh’s extreme, anti-choice record became eclipsed by multiple sexual assault allegations against him and his angry, dishonest testimony that followed. After weeks of public outrage over the allegations and the lack of transparency around the nominations process, Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee quickly rushed to ramrod his confirmation through.

During that time, our government belittled Dr. Christine Blasey Ford’s testimony against Kavanaugh and stifled the account of another credible accuser, Deborah Ramirez. New information has been brought to light since then that further substantiates Ramirez’s charges against Kavanaugh, which the FBI failed to pursue despite the credibility of her account.

We are well aware that in your mind the only way anyone can be misogynist is to oppose the extreme abortion agenda. Problem is that your misogyny is glaringly obvious to everyone else.

Sure. 2 years under Trump, 6 years under Bush. Thanks for asking.

So, IOW, since Bush they had many years in which to cut a deal to change things and they didn't do it. Poor useless things, and you still vote for them.

Come on, you guys dismantled the middle class, and now you are trying to bury the body... kind of like those dead hookers in someone's basement.


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If you have knowledge of dead hookers somewhere, you'd better report them, or you'll get charged as an accessory. The law doesn't care that you don't like women very much, they're still people with rights equal to yours, despite your 1950's attitudes.