To all those on the left who question the faith of evangelicals for voting Trump

[Cecilie1200]

Do you often find yourself trying to blame others for voting for someone that routinely takes the Lord's name in vain? That calls people names routinely?

Because you do not like the other main candidate you have to vote for the guy who brags about just walking up and sexually assaulting women?

Vs the party that actually calls them names...and wants to kill babies AFTER they’re born. The party that actually vilifies them, and labels their beliefs as “hate speech”. How is them voting for trump a fucking mystery to you? It’s honestly laughable. Your party just tried to block people going to church, vilified them and their kids trying to walk in, and then punched the pastor in the face multiple times.

That being said. To answer your question, even though the OP should’ve sufficed, there was only one dude in the Bible who was blameless. Obviously that was Jesus. The other hero’s in the Bible, even the best of the best, did waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy more fucked up shit than trump has ever done. We’re talking having friends killed so they could hide the affairs they had with their wives. Screwing their brothers out of inheritance. Throwing brothers in a pit and leaving them to die. Traveling from city to city to murder Christians. Plenty of hero’s weren’t even part of Israel or the early church. The Bible is not a kumbayah book. It’s a book that clearly says you are garbage, the human condition is garbage, there WILL be suffering from tragic occurrences, there WILL be suffering from malevolent people, you HAVE to be better because you answer to a higher power that laid out these rules that give all of that suffering meaning.

That still doesn't address my point. Just because you do not like one guy does not mean you have to vote for some other guy. Especially one that laughs about sexually assaulting women.

Yes it does. When one party has been vilifying your religion for decades, and has exponentially turned the vilification up to 11...you kind of have to go with the other guy who says that’s wrong to do dipshit. Again why is this such a mystery to you? America wasn’t a communist country. They didn’t really like communism. But we gave the Soviets a fuck ton of weapons and vehicles in WW2. Only 2 of the original 13 colonies insisted on keeping slavery if they were going to participate in bucking British rule. The other 11 had to concede to that or else there’d be no America today.

So why the fuck does it make sense to YOU to tell Christians to “just roll over and let the party that REALLY hates you win by voting for 3rd party”? The left has been calling them hypocrites for decades now. They said the never coffee drinking and wearer of magical underwear boy scout that was Romney was a racist Nazi who wanted to put blacks back in chains and let grandma die. Do you really think they care that your calling them hypocrites now when they already know they’re voting for a guy who publicly bragged about cheating on his wife before he even ran for president? Surprise!!!! They don’t. You can take your self serving advice and shove it. Why don’t you tell the person at work who has the job you want to either get fired or quit, you’ll probably have more luck doing that. That’d be more realistic.

Here are the bald facts. 70% of Democrats are Christians. Your religion has NEVER been vilified by the left. That Democrats and the left will NEVER allow you to do is to impose your narrow and perverted view of Christianity, on the rest of the country. You can hate gays all you want, but you will suck it up and treat them with the same respect you want from others, or you can't have a public business. It's that simple.

If YOU don't want an abortion, don't have an abortion. But the reality is that 13% of all abortions - more than 100,000 abortions every year, are performed on women who list their religion as Evangelical Christians. Your women have just as many abortions as they rest the women in America. But you want to ban abortipon.

When your stated goal is to establish a Christian Theocracy, your in opposition to everything the Constitution stands for. You want to inflict YOUR religion on the rest of the nation, using the legal system. The rest of America don't want your religion codified into laws, and so the left are going to squash these attempts to undermine the freedom of religion for the 80% of Americans who think you people are the American Taliban.

Wow, the American Christian church is now the American taliban. This is the exact vilification I’m talking about. The numbers you listed you clearly just pulled out of your ass.

In U.S., Decline of Christianity Continues at Rapid Pace

The religious landscape of the United States continues to change at a rapid clip, with both Protestantism and Catholicism experiencing losses of population share.

www.pewforum.org

Christianity can't continue to act in opposition to the teachings of Christ and expect to do anything other than faulter.

Oh I have my own problems with the Christian church and they did bring their demise on themselves. I would like to hear how you think they aren’t following the teachings of Jesus. It probably isn’t going to be what I say. Let me guess, they’re hateful fundamentalist that want to subject the rest of the world to their teachings. They don’t follow the teaching of Jesus that I only pay attention too (Jesus as an all inclusive kumbayah Jesus). Newsflash, Jesus preached much more about Hell and how hard it is to actually walk the “straight and narrow” than he ever preached about heaven.

All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.

Leo Tolstoy

The whole thought that Christians are just hateful hypocrites is the exact vilification from the left I’m talking about. It’s straight up religious prejudice. Granted there are those “Christians” out there. But they are the vast minority. Christians are their biggest critics. But the left are the ones who parade the likes of the Westboro Baptist church, and try to characterize them as the entire christian church. It’s not even close. Yet when someone correctly points out that, hey there’s a lot of fundamental 12ers over there in the Middle East, the left decries that as islamaphobia. It’s also the left who will declare all religions as equal, yet treat Christians like dirt. Christians led the abolitionist movement worldwide. Christians give the most charity worldwide and it’s not even close. The Christian philosophy is 100% behind the enlightenment movement that gives you the rights you enjoy today, including the belief that you cannot mandate belief in God. The American Christian church is certainly responsible for their own downfall. Not at all entirely because of the lefts hyperbolic and even false criticism of them, though there are some valid points made. But to characterize the entire church like the left has been doing for decades, and is doing now is 100% prejudice and wrong, just as wrong as it is to characterize every Muslim as a terrorist. Nietzsche, one of the biggest critics of the church, correctly predicted the immense bloodshed to come in the 21st century in his parable of the old fool. The left loves this parable for the wrong reasons, they only listen to “God is Dead” part and clap without reading the rest.

Friedrich Nietzsche, "The Parable of the Madman" (1882)

"How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us -- for the sake of this deed he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto."

They aren't following his INTERPRETATIONS of the teachings of Jesus.

"The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

What is your interpretation?

It means Charity and Love are expected. It also means Abortion is a sin.

O.K.........do we show this love by dropping hundreds of thousands of bombs on others?

Do we show this charity by cutting SNAP benefits?

Why do you insist on always moving the goal posts? Can you quote where I've ever advocated for a War of any kind? People with no real knowledge of scripture ALWAYS take things to an illogical extreme. YOU take that scripture to mean that can be no limits to charity much as you do with War. That is as illogical as it gets. One can only give so much, there is a point where one must take care of his own first.
There is also a point where War's must be fought although I would say we have not had one of those since WWII.
Have you personlly given away EVERYTHING you have to feed the poor?No you haven't, but that scripture is used usually as a club, a "gotcha" moment.
What do you do with this one?

Matthew 26:11 New International Version (NIV)
11 The poor you will always have with you,[a] but you will not always have me.

I asked a question. If you are saying you do not support our wars (are you?), then I will say great BUT I will note that this "Christian nation" most certainly does.

Matthew 26:11 New International Version (NIV)
11 The poor you will always have with you,[a] but you will not always have me

What is the context in this verse?

What does this one mean?

Matthew 8:5-13 New International Version (NIV)
The Faith of the Centurion
5 When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for help. 6 “Lord,” he said, “my servant lies at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.”

7 Jesus said to him, “Shall I come and heal him?”

8 The centurion replied, “Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed. 9 For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and that one, ‘Come,’ and he comes. I say to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.”

10 When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. 11 I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

13 Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would.” And his servant was healed at that moment.

A "yes I support the wars" or "No I do not" would suffice.

Are you suggesting that it was immoral to drop bombs on the Nazis?

The translation of “the meek shall inherit the earth” is incorrect. The correct translation of the word we commonly translated as “meek” is a word we don’t really have in English. The translation is more like “those with swords who know how to use them but keep them sheathed will inherit the earth.” Which is vastly different from “meek”. This reasoning is why Jesus instructed his disciples to sell their cloaks for swords. It’s not as a show of force, it’s not for the revolution that many Jews at the time thought the “messiah” would bring. It is an understanding that violence is sometimes necessary and it is wrong to completely castrate yourself of the ability for violence. The belief that Jesus was strictly a Passivist is wrong.


“When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know." “

pknopp only wants to ASK questions, never answer them.

Strawman questions at that. Like we’re just bombing completely innocent people and that’s just how we fight war. Like we didn’t spend billions of dollars spearheading precision technology to avoid collateral damage as much as possible. And he’ll cite accidental tragedies as his proof. That’s war. Accidents happen. They’re absolutely tragic. What’s far more tragic is the evil people killing innocent populations that we are trying to stop. Apparently this scenario doesn’t exist in his mind. I’m not saying the US is perfect, or didn’t participate in anything shameful, as I have stated many times. But who is he comparing us too? Name a single country that defends innocent populations as much as US. The rest of the west throws a couple of planes our way and says “we did our part” while were the ones bombing the people that want to murder their civilians en masse. But apparently bombing these evil people isn’t Christian.

We have NO business dropping bombs at all.

We weren’t, we opted not too back in the 90s. One of the guys we chose not too wound up crashing planes into the World Trade Center. What would China take by force knowing we’re not there to stop them? How long would Kim Jong Un wait time attack South Korea and level Seoul knowing we wouldn’t retaliate? What other Baltic countries would Russia take by force knowing we wouldn’t step in to defend? How fast would Iran swallow their neighbors knowing we wouldn’t step in? How many more genocides would brutal dictators order knowing the US is no longer threatening them if they do. We can’t be world police. But the world is not a safe place. The human condition is to carry out conquest, subjugate, enslave, and wipe out the tribes around you. It was the perpetual state of the world before the US became a super power. Now war is limited to boarder skirmishes, civil wars, and small conflicts vs what wars use to be worldwide.

And yet you are vilifying the person who's running on a return to this status quo. While at the same time supporting the person that has spent his entire first term in office, trying to upturn the exact mechanisms that have decreased global conflict. Do you see any problem with that?

What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

WATCH: Protesters Storm Baptist Church, Harass Children, Assault Parishioners: ‘How’s Your Head Feel, Pastor?’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.

You must be mad to think that the US can function with just a two party system in place which forces us to accept what the slave masters give us for our representative government.

I voted 3rd party in 2016.

I have for years and years because well, the others suck...

2 party systems aren’t a 100% negative. They force multiple factions within the parties to work with the multiple factions of the other to come to a consensus. Vs European multi party systems where factions stay in their respected factions and only the party that wins gets their way. It’s also closer to the way the human psyche operates. The masculine law and order conservation side, and the feminine creative destruction renewal side. Both side obviously have their terrible extremes, but both need to work together to fight those extremes. That being said, both parties in the US are in need of dire reform.

Actually you are a hundred percent wrong here. I live in a parliamentary Democracy that has about 10 separate parties. The winner of the elections typically gets around 20 to 25 percent of the vote. This most of the time allows them to have the leadership position but they are REQUIRED to compromise with other parties to get a majority. They don't just"get their way. "

My characterization might have been hyperbolic if multi-party systems...but it wasn’t too far off. My characterization of the 2 party system and the human psyche was spot on on the other hand. Its not all roses and butterflies for either system. My point was the 2 party system is not a disaster as many in the US like to characterize.

I characterize it pretty disastrous in its current state. Two-party systems only work when there is a genuine desire to protect the rights of the minority when they aren't in power. This desire has pretty much gone the way of the Dodo I think ever since the tea party and the idea of zero-sum politics.

I would say that it started with the Clinton Administration and Newt Gingerich. Newt was desperate to impeach a Democratic President as revenge for Watergate and Iran Contra. The Starr Investigation was a 6 1/2 year witch hunt which produced a few Whitewater convictions, but after investigating everything the Clintons had done since Bill was governor of Arkansas and even before, and the best they could come up with was a lie about a blow job.

Gingerich was desperate to discredit a very popular and successful President, and he impeached him for perjury. Despite their treatment of the Clintons, Democrats helped and cooperated with Republicans in the wake of 9/11, but I think something snapped in the Republican Party when the Democrats ran a black man against them and won.

Republicans went bat shit crazy over a black man in the White House, and they became unhinged. It is long past time to end this party and send them back to the rocks and swamps they crawled out of. The USA needs a conservative alternative to the Democrats, but the current iteration of the Republican Party is corrupt to the core, and they keep trying to take the countries back to the 1950's when things were great for white men, and minorities knew their place.

I think after this election, what's left of the Republican Party will shed these bigots and racists and form a new genuine Constitutionally based Conservative Party. End this dance with religious extremists and/or racists.

"Your country really needs this. I'm not there, but I'm just SO DAMNED SMART that I'm going to try to run your lives for you anyway."

Oh, and no one but you and the other leftist bigots cared that Obama was black, so please stop projecting your racism onto others.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Oh, they were giving away a military carbine. Yeah, that is faith in mammon.

When did anyone start wanting your approval, religious or otherwise?

Well, gee, according to the bible, you shouldn't seek approval from other humans, but only from god, so a moot point altogether.

Not really, because even if I have zero desire for the approval of humans, I still have even less desire for the approval of you.

So very "Christian" of you.

And I continue to have no interest in "how to be a Christian according to the evil imbecile".

Can you give me an estimate of how many times I'm going to have to tell you that your approval means nothing to me before you get it through your vapid skull? I'd just like to mark it on my calendar.

 

[eddiew]

What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

WATCH: Protesters Storm Baptist Church, Harass Children, Assault Parishioners: ‘How’s Your Head Feel, Pastor?’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.

Question their faith??? Those fn liars who support trump should all go to hell

 

[Cecilie1200]

What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

WATCH: Protesters Storm Baptist Church, Harass Children, Assault Parishioners: ‘How’s Your Head Feel, Pastor?’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.

The religious right is as morally bankrupt as the whoremonger they support.

Oh, noes!!! Our morals are not approved of by the vacant twat who wouldn't know a moral if it fell on her!! Whatever shall we do?!

 

[Cecilie1200]

Oh, they were giving away a military carbine. Yeah, that is faith in mammon.

When did anyone start wanting your approval, religious or otherwise?

Well, gee, according to the bible, you shouldn't seek approval from other humans, but only from god, so a moot point altogether.

Not really, because even if I have zero desire for the approval of humans, I still have even less desire for the approval of you.

So very "Christian" of you.

She’s no christian

I'm Christian enough to point out that you just committed a sin. And you're apparently not Christian enough to know that, so you're not Christian enough to criticize me.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Do you often find yourself trying to blame others for voting for someone that routinely takes the Lord's name in vain? That calls people names routinely?

Because you do not like the other main candidate you have to vote for the guy who brags about just walking up and sexually assaulting women?

Vs the party that actually calls them names...and wants to kill babies AFTER they’re born. The party that actually vilifies them, and labels their beliefs as “hate speech”. How is them voting for trump a fucking mystery to you? It’s honestly laughable. Your party just tried to block people going to church, vilified them and their kids trying to walk in, and then punched the pastor in the face multiple times.

That being said. To answer your question, even though the OP should’ve sufficed, there was only one dude in the Bible who was blameless. Obviously that was Jesus. The other hero’s in the Bible, even the best of the best, did waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy more fucked up shit than trump has ever done. We’re talking having friends killed so they could hide the affairs they had with their wives. Screwing their brothers out of inheritance. Throwing brothers in a pit and leaving them to die. Traveling from city to city to murder Christians. Plenty of hero’s weren’t even part of Israel or the early church. The Bible is not a kumbayah book. It’s a book that clearly says you are garbage, the human condition is garbage, there WILL be suffering from tragic occurrences, there WILL be suffering from malevolent people, you HAVE to be better because you answer to a higher power that laid out these rules that give all of that suffering meaning.

The left thinks Christianity is supposed to be all about judging and condemning people for not being perfect, because that's what THEY are all about, and understanding Christianity would require them to actually speak with and listen to Christians. THAT certainly isn't going to happen.

You don't have the first clue what the left thinks. As always, you make assumptions based on your own biases and prejudices. When have YOU sat down or listened to anyone on the left. What do YOU contribute to these discussions other than a condemnation of any poster on the left, and your usual bitter and angry insults?

"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."

I have every clue how the left thinks, you oblivious dimwit, because THEY NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT. I'd have to be even more blind and retarded than you are to miss it. As always, you say whatever suits your purpose at the moment, and expect the rest of us to accept it as reality sprung into being that very moment the way you do.

I contribute an enormous amount of fact and insight into the conversation. It's not my fault that you're too ignorant and childish to notice and understand it because you're busy being ass-chapped because I give you the respect you earn every time you open your mouth.

You are that blind and that certain that liberals have nothing to say, that you haven't bothered to listen. Thank you for proving you are EXACTLY the hypocritical liar I claimed you were. You really don't have a clue because you don't LISTEN. You say that liberal never shut up but you aren't LISTENING to what they're saying.

Your mind is made up about EVERYTHING. YOU know it all. No need to consider anyone but yourself.

No, you silly bint, YOU are that blind and that certain about what I think that YOU haven't bothered to listen. I've never claimed leftists have nothing to say; I have claimed, and will continue to say, that the massive amounts of stuff they say is WRONG. The only people I say have nothing to say would be amoeba-brained mouthbreathers like you and your girlfriend, Cornball.

Thank YOU for proving that you have no idea what "proving" means, since your post makes it abundantly clear that you think it's a synonym for "ASSuming", as in "I assume this is what she thinks, and that proves my OTHER assumption is correct!"

My mind IS made up about everything. That's a consequence of being intelligent; you hear the evidence, and then you MAKE A DECISION. Beats the hell out of parroting whatever today's talking point is in the hopes of making people think you're "nice", like you do. Of course, I realize that I have a unique qualification for my approach that you don't, ie. a functioning brain.

 

[Cecilie1200]

What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

WATCH: Protesters Storm Baptist Church, Harass Children, Assault Parishioners: ‘How’s Your Head Feel, Pastor?’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.

Question their faith??? Those fn liars who support trump should all go to hell

And yet we're supposed to worry about practicing our faith to please someone who just committed a sin right here in front of us? Yeah, I don't think so.

 

[sakinago]

What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

WATCH: Protesters Storm Baptist Church, Harass Children, Assault Parishioners: ‘How’s Your Head Feel, Pastor?’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.

Question their faith??? Those fn liars who support trump should all go to hell

And another proves my point...wishing the entire evangelical community goes to hell, yet they question why’d they vote for trump...and somehow their answer isn’t as readily available as the diarrhea that flows from their mouth.

 

[candycorn]

What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

WATCH: Protesters Storm Baptist Church, Harass Children, Assault Parishioners: ‘How’s Your Head Feel, Pastor?’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.

The religious right is as morally bankrupt as the whoremonger they support.

Oh coming from the party of materialism, envy, abortion up until birth, violence against those that disagree with us, supporting looting and rioting, equality of outcome, party of slavery and Jim Crow, party of interment camps, and the whole Marxist movement leading to the deaths of hundreds of millions ...that means a lot. We will take your criticism under consideration, and definitely won’t wipe our asses with it.

Materialism? Wow you’re full of it considering the mega church pastor’s lifestyles

 

[pknopp]

What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

WATCH: Protesters Storm Baptist Church, Harass Children, Assault Parishioners: ‘How’s Your Head Feel, Pastor?’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.

What do we expect? We expect gross hypocrisy from the folks to profess that supporting Trump brings them closer to Jesus' message.

Standing up to Satan and rejecting his lies was Jesus’ message.

President Trump is an excellent example of standing up against the lies of the left.

Given the amount of lying that Trump does, you have to be a total idiot to believe that Trump stands against any lies. He is the lord king of all lies.

What you're saying is that because you disagree with some of the policies of the Democratic party, you support an out right satanist for President.

Do you really believe that Jesus would be happy with Trump?

Can you truly be that stupid?

Can you point out one of these “lies”?

No Dem ever responds.

I'm not a Dem but yes they do. An easy one is in the news right now. His promise to release his taxes.

A big one for me was his lie about releasing his health care reform program that he had ready to go that everyone was going to love and say it was the best.

How about his lie to address the debt?

To get Mexico to pay for the wall? To round up a million illegals? How many do you need?

I have to take issue with your post. Trump did not promise to round up 1 million illegals. He promised to round up TWELVE million illegals in 2 years!

Actually both things were promised.

https://www.newsweek.com/top-trump-...ing-1-million-undocumented-immigrants-1447925

 

[candycorn]

What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

WATCH: Protesters Storm Baptist Church, Harass Children, Assault Parishioners: ‘How’s Your Head Feel, Pastor?’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.

Question their faith??? Those fn liars who support trump should all go to hell

And another proves my point...wishing the entire evangelical community goes to hell, yet they question why’d they vote for trump...and somehow their answer isn’t as readily available as the diarrhea that flows from their mouth.

Trump paid hush money to at least two porn stars. True or false.

 

[eddiew]

What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

WATCH: Protesters Storm Baptist Church, Harass Children, Assault Parishioners: ‘How’s Your Head Feel, Pastor?’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.

Question their faith??? Those fn liars who support trump should all go to hell

And yet we're supposed to worry about practicing our faith to please someone who just committed a sin right here in front of us? Yeah, I don't think so.

You're going to hell cecilie with your own shovel and tons of coal to dig

 

[sakinago]

What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

WATCH: Protesters Storm Baptist Church, Harass Children, Assault Parishioners: ‘How’s Your Head Feel, Pastor?’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.

Question their faith??? Those fn liars who support trump should all go to hell

And another proves my point...wishing the entire evangelical community goes to hell, yet they question why’d they vote for trump...and somehow their answer isn’t as readily available as the diarrhea that flows from their mouth.

Trump paid hush money to at least two porn stars. True or false.

Probably more than two. The guy publicly bragged about cheating on his wife in a book long before he ran for president. This was all baked in for trump voters. I’ll say this once more...Bush was apparently a Nazi hell bent on killing Muslims over oil. The Boy Scout that was Romney apparently wanted to put blacks back in chains and kill grandma. So the evangelical right said fuhuuuhuuuck yooooouuuu and nominated a guy who wasn’t going to take the ridiculous shit the left throws in order to demonize the right. Y’all have been calling the evangelical right sister-loving-mouthbreathing-racist-hypocritical-bigots for decades now. They’re done with it. They’re also done with the nominees who just sat back and took the “high road” while the left continually takes uncalled for potshots at them with the media giving them complete cover to do so. The only thing the left can do in response to trump is their only move, to name call, and try to cancel. And they’ve turned the dial up to 11. The people in the middle aren’t falling for it.

 

[candycorn]

What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

WATCH: Protesters Storm Baptist Church, Harass Children, Assault Parishioners: ‘How’s Your Head Feel, Pastor?’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.

Question their faith??? Those fn liars who support trump should all go to hell

And another proves my point...wishing the entire evangelical community goes to hell, yet they question why’d they vote for trump...and somehow their answer isn’t as readily available as the diarrhea that flows from their mouth.

Trump paid hush money to at least two porn stars. True or false.

Probably more than two. The guy publicly bragged about cheating on his wife in a book long before he ran for president.

Thanks for confirming that you can’t support the blob and call yourself a Christian

 

[sakinago]

What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

WATCH: Protesters Storm Baptist Church, Harass Children, Assault Parishioners: ‘How’s Your Head Feel, Pastor?’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.

Question their faith??? Those fn liars who support trump should all go to hell

And another proves my point...wishing the entire evangelical community goes to hell, yet they question why’d they vote for trump...and somehow their answer isn’t as readily available as the diarrhea that flows from their mouth.

Trump paid hush money to at least two porn stars. True or false.

Probably more than two. The guy publicly bragged about cheating on his wife in a book long before he ran for president.

Thanks for confirming that you can’t support the blob and call yourself a Christian

Go ahead and think that. King David, man after gods own heart, author of the psalms, had his friend killed to cover up the affair with that very same friends wife...and you think we give a shit about a playboy acting like a playboy vs the hell on earth and vilification against Christians that the left wants to bring. Here’s a very complex and high level bit of psychology that the left could use...if you want a group to vote a certain way, it’s not a good idea to vilify that group, and then continue to demonize them when they don’t agree with you. I know that sounds completely counterintuitive, but it’s actually true believe it or not.

 

[candycorn]

What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

WATCH: Protesters Storm Baptist Church, Harass Children, Assault Parishioners: ‘How’s Your Head Feel, Pastor?’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.

Question their faith??? Those fn liars who support trump should all go to hell

And another proves my point...wishing the entire evangelical community goes to hell, yet they question why’d they vote for trump...and somehow their answer isn’t as readily available as the diarrhea that flows from their mouth.

Trump paid hush money to at least two porn stars. True or false.

Probably more than two. The guy publicly bragged about cheating on his wife in a book long before he ran for president.

Thanks for confirming that you can’t support the blob and call yourself a Christian

Go ahead and think that. King David, man after gods own heart, author of the psalms, had his friend killed to cover up the affair with that very same friends wife...and you think we give a shit about a playboy acting like a playboy vs the hell on earth and vilification against Christians that the left wants to bring. Here’s a very complex and high level bit of psychology that the left could use...if you want a group to vote a certain way, it’s not a good idea to vilify that group, and then continue to demonize them when they don’t agree with you. I know that sounds completely counterintuitive, but it’s actually true believe it or not.

So how many “commandments” are there? Is there still 10?

 

[eddiew]

What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

WATCH: Protesters Storm Baptist Church, Harass Children, Assault Parishioners: ‘How’s Your Head Feel, Pastor?’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.

Question their faith??? Those fn liars who support trump should all go to hell

And another proves my point...wishing the entire evangelical community goes to hell, yet they question why’d they vote for trump...and somehow their answer isn’t as readily available as the diarrhea that flows from their mouth.

Trump paid hush money to at least two porn stars. True or false.

Probably more than two. The guy publicly bragged about cheating on his wife in a book long before he ran for president.

Thanks for confirming that you can’t support the blob and call yourself a Christian

Go ahead and think that. King David, man after gods own heart, author of the psalms, had his friend killed to cover up the affair with that very same friends wife...and you think we give a shit about a playboy acting like a playboy vs the hell on earth and vilification against Christians that the left wants to bring. Here’s a very complex and high level bit of psychology that the left could use...if you want a group to vote a certain way, it’s not a good idea to vilify that group, and then continue to demonize them when they don’t agree with you. I know that sounds completely counterintuitive, but it’s actually true believe it or not.

So how many “commandments” are there? Is there still 10?

There were 15 but Moses dropped the last 5 on the way down the mountain

 

[eddiew]

Do you often find yourself trying to blame others for voting for someone that routinely takes the Lord's name in vain? That calls people names routinely?

Because you do not like the other main candidate you have to vote for the guy who brags about just walking up and sexually assaulting women?

Vs the party that actually calls them names...and wants to kill babies AFTER they’re born. The party that actually vilifies them, and labels their beliefs as “hate speech”. How is them voting for trump a fucking mystery to you? It’s honestly laughable. Your party just tried to block people going to church, vilified them and their kids trying to walk in, and then punched the pastor in the face multiple times.

That being said. To answer your question, even though the OP should’ve sufficed, there was only one dude in the Bible who was blameless. Obviously that was Jesus. The other hero’s in the Bible, even the best of the best, did waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy more fucked up shit than trump has ever done. We’re talking having friends killed so they could hide the affairs they had with their wives. Screwing their brothers out of inheritance. Throwing brothers in a pit and leaving them to die. Traveling from city to city to murder Christians. Plenty of hero’s weren’t even part of Israel or the early church. The Bible is not a kumbayah book. It’s a book that clearly says you are garbage, the human condition is garbage, there WILL be suffering from tragic occurrences, there WILL be suffering from malevolent people, you HAVE to be better because you answer to a higher power that laid out these rules that give all of that suffering meaning.

That still doesn't address my point. Just because you do not like one guy does not mean you have to vote for some other guy. Especially one that laughs about sexually assaulting women.

Yes it does. When one party has been vilifying your religion for decades, and has exponentially turned the vilification up to 11...you kind of have to go with the other guy who says that’s wrong to do dipshit. Again why is this such a mystery to you? America wasn’t a communist country. They didn’t really like communism. But we gave the Soviets a fuck ton of weapons and vehicles in WW2. Only 2 of the original 13 colonies insisted on keeping slavery if they were going to participate in bucking British rule. The other 11 had to concede to that or else there’d be no America today.

So why the fuck does it make sense to YOU to tell Christians to “just roll over and let the party that REALLY hates you win by voting for 3rd party”? The left has been calling them hypocrites for decades now. They said the never coffee drinking and wearer of magical underwear boy scout that was Romney was a racist Nazi who wanted to put blacks back in chains and let grandma die. Do you really think they care that your calling them hypocrites now when they already know they’re voting for a guy who publicly bragged about cheating on his wife before he even ran for president? Surprise!!!! They don’t. You can take your self serving advice and shove it. Why don’t you tell the person at work who has the job you want to either get fired or quit, you’ll probably have more luck doing that. That’d be more realistic.

Here are the bald facts. 70% of Democrats are Christians. Your religion has NEVER been vilified by the left. That Democrats and the left will NEVER allow you to do is to impose your narrow and perverted view of Christianity, on the rest of the country. You can hate gays all you want, but you will suck it up and treat them with the same respect you want from others, or you can't have a public business. It's that simple.

If YOU don't want an abortion, don't have an abortion. But the reality is that 13% of all abortions - more than 100,000 abortions every year, are performed on women who list their religion as Evangelical Christians. Your women have just as many abortions as they rest the women in America. But you want to ban abortipon.

When your stated goal is to establish a Christian Theocracy, your in opposition to everything the Constitution stands for. You want to inflict YOUR religion on the rest of the nation, using the legal system. The rest of America don't want your religion codified into laws, and so the left are going to squash these attempts to undermine the freedom of religion for the 80% of Americans who think you people are the American Taliban.

Wow, the American Christian church is now the American taliban. This is the exact vilification I’m talking about. The numbers you listed you clearly just pulled out of your ass.

In U.S., Decline of Christianity Continues at Rapid Pace

The religious landscape of the United States continues to change at a rapid clip, with both Protestantism and Catholicism experiencing losses of population share.

www.pewforum.org

Christianity can't continue to act in opposition to the teachings of Christ and expect to do anything other than faulter.

Oh I have my own problems with the Christian church and they did bring their demise on themselves. I would like to hear how you think they aren’t following the teachings of Jesus. It probably isn’t going to be what I say. Let me guess, they’re hateful fundamentalist that want to subject the rest of the world to their teachings. They don’t follow the teaching of Jesus that I only pay attention too (Jesus as an all inclusive kumbayah Jesus). Newsflash, Jesus preached much more about Hell and how hard it is to actually walk the “straight and narrow” than he ever preached about heaven.

All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.

Leo Tolstoy

The whole thought that Christians are just hateful hypocrites is the exact vilification from the left I’m talking about. It’s straight up religious prejudice. Granted there are those “Christians” out there. But they are the vast minority. Christians are their biggest critics. But the left are the ones who parade the likes of the Westboro Baptist church, and try to characterize them as the entire christian church. It’s not even close. Yet when someone correctly points out that, hey there’s a lot of fundamental 12ers over there in the Middle East, the left decries that as islamaphobia. It’s also the left who will declare all religions as equal, yet treat Christians like dirt. Christians led the abolitionist movement worldwide. Christians give the most charity worldwide and it’s not even close. The Christian philosophy is 100% behind the enlightenment movement that gives you the rights you enjoy today, including the belief that you cannot mandate belief in God. The American Christian church is certainly responsible for their own downfall. Not at all entirely because of the lefts hyperbolic and even false criticism of them, though there are some valid points made. But to characterize the entire church like the left has been doing for decades, and is doing now is 100% prejudice and wrong, just as wrong as it is to characterize every Muslim as a terrorist. Nietzsche, one of the biggest critics of the church, correctly predicted the immense bloodshed to come in the 21st century in his parable of the old fool. The left loves this parable for the wrong reasons, they only listen to “God is Dead” part and clap without reading the rest.

Friedrich Nietzsche, "The Parable of the Madman" (1882)

"How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us -- for the sake of this deed he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto."

They aren't following his INTERPRETATIONS of the teachings of Jesus.

"The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

What is your interpretation?

It means Charity and Love are expected. It also means Abortion is a sin.

O.K.........do we show this love by dropping hundreds of thousands of bombs on others?

Do we show this charity by cutting SNAP benefits?

Why do you insist on always moving the goal posts? Can you quote where I've ever advocated for a War of any kind? People with no real knowledge of scripture ALWAYS take things to an illogical extreme. YOU take that scripture to mean that can be no limits to charity much as you do with War. That is as illogical as it gets. One can only give so much, there is a point where one must take care of his own first.
There is also a point where War's must be fought although I would say we have not had one of those since WWII.
Have you personlly given away EVERYTHING you have to feed the poor?No you haven't, but that scripture is used usually as a club, a "gotcha" moment.
What do you do with this one?

Matthew 26:11 New International Version (NIV)
11 The poor you will always have with you,[a] but you will not always have me.

I asked a question. If you are saying you do not support our wars (are you?), then I will say great BUT I will note that this "Christian nation" most certainly does.

Matthew 26:11 New International Version (NIV)
11 The poor you will always have with you,[a] but you will not always have me

What is the context in this verse?

What does this one mean?

Matthew 8:5-13 New International Version (NIV)
The Faith of the Centurion
5 When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for help. 6 “Lord,” he said, “my servant lies at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.”

7 Jesus said to him, “Shall I come and heal him?”

8 The centurion replied, “Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed. 9 For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and that one, ‘Come,’ and he comes. I say to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.”

10 When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. 11 I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

13 Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would.” And his servant was healed at that moment.

A "yes I support the wars" or "No I do not" would suffice.

Are you suggesting that it was immoral to drop bombs on the Nazis?

The translation of “the meek shall inherit the earth” is incorrect. The correct translation of the word we commonly translated as “meek” is a word we don’t really have in English. The translation is more like “those with swords who know how to use them but keep them sheathed will inherit the earth.” Which is vastly different from “meek”. This reasoning is why Jesus instructed his disciples to sell their cloaks for swords. It’s not as a show of force, it’s not for the revolution that many Jews at the time thought the “messiah” would bring. It is an understanding that violence is sometimes necessary and it is wrong to completely castrate yourself of the ability for violence. The belief that Jesus was strictly a Passivist is wrong.


“When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know." “

pknopp only wants to ASK questions, never answer them.

Strawman questions at that. Like we’re just bombing completely innocent people and that’s just how we fight war. Like we didn’t spend billions of dollars spearheading precision technology to avoid collateral damage as much as possible. And he’ll cite accidental tragedies as his proof. That’s war. Accidents happen. They’re absolutely tragic. What’s far more tragic is the evil people killing innocent populations that we are trying to stop. Apparently this scenario doesn’t exist in his mind. I’m not saying the US is perfect, or didn’t participate in anything shameful, as I have stated many times. But who is he comparing us too? Name a single country that defends innocent populations as much as US. The rest of the west throws a couple of planes our way and says “we did our part” while were the ones bombing the people that want to murder their civilians en masse. But apparently bombing these evil people isn’t Christian.

We have NO business dropping bombs at all.

We weren’t, we opted not too back in the 90s. One of the guys we chose not too wound up crashing planes into the World Trade Center. What would China take by force knowing we’re not there to stop them? How long would Kim Jong Un wait time attack South Korea and level Seoul knowing we wouldn’t retaliate? What other Baltic countries would Russia take by force knowing we wouldn’t step in to defend? How fast would Iran swallow their neighbors knowing we wouldn’t step in? How many more genocides would brutal dictators order knowing the US is no longer threatening them if they do. We can’t be world police. But the world is not a safe place. The human condition is to carry out conquest, subjugate, enslave, and wipe out the tribes around you. It was the perpetual state of the world before the US became a super power. Now war is limited to boarder skirmishes, civil wars, and small conflicts vs what wars use to be worldwide.

And yet you are vilifying the person who's running on a return to this status quo. While at the same time supporting the person that has spent his entire first term in office, trying to upturn the exact mechanisms that have decreased global conflict. Do you see any problem with that?

What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

WATCH: Protesters Storm Baptist Church, Harass Children, Assault Parishioners: ‘How’s Your Head Feel, Pastor?’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.

You must be mad to think that the US can function with just a two party system in place which forces us to accept what the slave masters give us for our representative government.

I voted 3rd party in 2016.

I have for years and years because well, the others suck...

2 party systems aren’t a 100% negative. They force multiple factions within the parties to work with the multiple factions of the other to come to a consensus. Vs European multi party systems where factions stay in their respected factions and only the party that wins gets their way. It’s also closer to the way the human psyche operates. The masculine law and order conservation side, and the feminine creative destruction renewal side. Both side obviously have their terrible extremes, but both need to work together to fight those extremes. That being said, both parties in the US are in need of dire reform.

Actually you are a hundred percent wrong here. I live in a parliamentary Democracy that has about 10 separate parties. The winner of the elections typically gets around 20 to 25 percent of the vote. This most of the time allows them to have the leadership position but they are REQUIRED to compromise with other parties to get a majority. They don't just"get their way. "

My characterization might have been hyperbolic if multi-party systems...but it wasn’t too far off. My characterization of the 2 party system and the human psyche was spot on on the other hand. Its not all roses and butterflies for either system. My point was the 2 party system is not a disaster as many in the US like to characterize.

I characterize it pretty disastrous in its current state. Two-party systems only work when there is a genuine desire to protect the rights of the minority when they aren't in power. This desire has pretty much gone the way of the Dodo I think ever since the tea party and the idea of zero-sum politics.

I would say that it started with the Clinton Administration and Newt Gingerich. Newt was desperate to impeach a Democratic President as revenge for Watergate and Iran Contra. The Starr Investigation was a 6 1/2 year witch hunt which produced a few Whitewater convictions, but after investigating everything the Clintons had done since Bill was governor of Arkansas and even before, and the best they could come up with was a lie about a blow job.

Gingerich was desperate to discredit a very popular and successful President, and he impeached him for perjury. Despite their treatment of the Clintons, Democrats helped and cooperated with Republicans in the wake of 9/11, but I think something snapped in the Republican Party when the Democrats ran a black man against them and won.

Republicans went bat shit crazy over a black man in the White House, and they became unhinged. It is long past time to end this party and send them back to the rocks and swamps they crawled out of. The USA needs a conservative alternative to the Democrats, but the current iteration of the Republican Party is corrupt to the core, and they keep trying to take the countries back to the 1950's when things were great for white men, and minorities knew their place.

I think after this election, what's left of the Republican Party will shed these bigots and racists and form a new genuine Constitutionally based Conservative Party. End this dance with religious extremists and/or racists.

"Your country really needs this. I'm not there, but I'm just SO DAMNED SMART that I'm going to try to run your lives for you anyway."

Oh, and no one but you and the other leftist bigots cared that Obama was black, so please stop projecting your racism onto others.

Go back to your trailer white trash and stop bothering the intelligent citizens

 

[sakinago]

What option are you giving them? Do you actually believe they’re going to vote for the party that’s been sneering at them for decades now? Should they go to the party that’s taking out “in god we trust”? Do you actually think they’re going to go with the party that’s for abortion up until the moment of birth and even after? Do you actually think they want to vote for the party that is making it illegal for them to practice their religion in the business they own?

How about the party that’s now attacking them? All I mentioned before was just saber rattling and aggressive stances in the culture war. They have now just fired the first of many shots they’re going to fire in the culture war.

WATCH: Protesters Storm Baptist Church, Harass Children, Assault Parishioners: ‘How’s Your Head Feel, Pastor?’ | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

PS: To the moderators. Don’t you dare move this to any other thread. The left has made this political and politics is exactly where this belongs.

Question their faith??? Those fn liars who support trump should all go to hell

And another proves my point...wishing the entire evangelical community goes to hell, yet they question why’d they vote for trump...and somehow their answer isn’t as readily available as the diarrhea that flows from their mouth.

Trump paid hush money to at least two porn stars. True or false.

Probably more than two. The guy publicly bragged about cheating on his wife in a book long before he ran for president.

Thanks for confirming that you can’t support the blob and call yourself a Christian

Go ahead and think that. King David, man after gods own heart, author of the psalms, had his friend killed to cover up the affair with that very same friends wife...and you think we give a shit about a playboy acting like a playboy vs the hell on earth and vilification against Christians that the left wants to bring. Here’s a very complex and high level bit of psychology that the left could use...if you want a group to vote a certain way, it’s not a good idea to vilify that group, and then continue to demonize them when they don’t agree with you. I know that sounds completely counterintuitive, but it’s actually true believe it or not.

So how many “commandments” are there? Is there still 10?

How many gender pronouns are there, is it still 50?

 

[Dragonlady]

you have to vote for the guy who brags about just walking up and sexually assaulting women?

Why would he or anyone else have to vote for Joe “Fingers” Biden?

Because Joe Biden's accuser has disappeared under the waves, when her story was proven to be a lie. The right should have vetted this woman and her story more closely before supporting her. She claimed she filed a report to the ethics office. She doesn't have a copy, but she has a copy of all of the rest of her employment file. Then she changed her story. She didn't file a report, she had an "intake interview", but didn't go forward with a claim. That's a lot different than "I filed a claim and they did nothing".

Reade took her claims to the legitimate press and no one would publish her story. That's because they investigated her story and it didn't hold up. She published her claims on FaceBook. Republicans, desperate for ammo against Biden, jumped on this opportunity. When her Republican law firm dropped the case, and no one else picked it up, you knew that even the lawyers didn't believe her.

There is no "private alcove" in the Senate Hallway where she claims this happened. Capital staffers said that this corridor is well used, well lit and busy. The chances that he could attack her in this way and not be seen by others are slim and nil. Then there's her long history of financial cons

The right has been trying to smear Biden with lies and conspiracy theories since before he announced his candidacy, and it's not working. Joe Biden is not Hillary Clinton. Republicans haven't been smearing his character and lying about him for the past 30 years. In fact, Republicans have all praised Joe Biden as an honest, and decent man. Right up until the moment he declared his candidacy.

Republicans need a better election strategy than lying about the opposition. It's not going to work this time. Just like it didn't work the last time Republicans crashed the economy, but this time is different. This is like the election of Ronald Reagan. The country is going in the wrong direction, and its' not working. Republican policies have, in essence, destroyed the nation.

40 years of Republican fiscal policies have enriched the Baby Boomers and left everyone else broke, sick and unemployed. 80% of the wealth of the nation is owned by the top 10%. In Norway, that number is 53%. In Canada it's 47%. They're two of the best countries in the world to live in. The middle class in both countries is growing, while the American middle class continues to lose ground.

1. Trends in income and wealth inequality

Barely 10 years past the end of the Great Recession in 2009, the U.S. economy is doing well on several fronts. The labor market is on a job-creating

www.pewsocialtrends.org

What a joke, she was never “proven a liar”, just because record aren’t around from 40 years ago. Biden even apologized for it.

As for comparing Canada and Norway to the US, that’s laughable. Norway is a small country that profits mostly from oil, you know the stuff that is “killing the planet” according to you loons. Not to mention they are entirely an all white population with no bottom feeding welfare types. Funny how that can have a huge effect on quality of life for a nation.
Canada is an even bigger joke, profiting off oil as well, while electing moronic shitbag liberals claiming to be against global warming. Biggest hypocrites in the world.

Yes, she was. The records exist.

Norway has a mixed manufacturing economy and an higher GDP than the USA.

Canada is doing very well and recovering quickly from the shutdown:

Canadian economy may be back in growth phase: Statistics Canada

April was the worst month on record for declining economic activity in Canada with Canadian GDP tumbling 11.6 per cent, but Statistics Canada is indicating the worst could be over. It's preliminary estimate for May has the economy expanding by three per cent. Andrew Kelvin, chief Canada...

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

While Trump was starting trade wars, Trudeau was signing trade agreements with Europe, and the Trans Pacific Partnership. We have trade deals. Our economy is recovering nicely. Our country is opening slowly and safely.